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post #8191 of 20352
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Originally Posted by is250sp View Post

Just ordered the phoenix! Is the wait time still 2 weeks?


Yea, 2 weeks.. Unfortunately every rave readily available on the web tacks on another week.. I'M IN THE SAME SUBLESS BOAT AS YOU.. 2 weeks + shipping..

-fab

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post #8192 of 20352
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb View Post

awesome. it will be a long two weeks but the wait will be worth it i'm sure.

2 in that size room should be killer.

i need to get a job so i can get another Sentinel.

While you are at it, get me another one as well. My wife can't object too much if it is free. Funny though, I'm not sure I really need it, but I would love to hear what dual Sentinels sound like in my room.

If I ever get time I might hook up the old Infinity one and run them together to see what they sound like. It probably isn't worth it, as they are not nearly a match for each other.
post #8193 of 20352
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Originally Posted by mrjulius View Post

Sometimes I walk by my Dynasty and give it a smile and a pet...it isn't even on.

Sounds strange, but you'll see

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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Now thats funny because I thought I was the only crazy one , I do the exact samething with my PB13 I love it so much

That's crazy talk. I would never do something like that.
post #8194 of 20352
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Originally Posted by SharpOne View Post

While you are at it, get me another one as well. My wife can't object too much if it is free. Funny though, I'm not sure I really need it, but I would love to hear what dual Sentinels sound like in my room.

If I ever get time I might hook up the old Infinity one and run them together to see what they sound like. It probably isn't worth it, as they are not nearly a match for each other.

i don't really NEED a second one either, but i do want another and will get another later on down the road.
post #8195 of 20352
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Originally Posted by fab5valentine View Post

Yea, 2 weeks.. Unfortunately every rave readily available on the web tacks on another week.. I'M IN THE SAME SUBLESS BOAT AS YOU.. 2 weeks + shipping..

-fab

what do you mean by "rave readily available"?
post #8196 of 20352
I think he means that every strong positive comment causes even more demand and then creates a bigger backlog.
post #8197 of 20352
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Originally Posted by is250sp View Post

what do you mean by "rave readily available"?

Every time someone raves on their Epik sub in a review or impressions, and that review is found; like say on this forum.. It bumps Epiks work load up by a week (easy).. Now think if a major reviewer got a hold of one of these subs and wrote a review and it get's published in a mag. Well, I think you and I would be happy with two weeks and/or American parts.. Chad is as busy as can be already.. Good for him.. I'd get the second one now if I could afford it. I'm anxious to receive the first..

-fab
post #8198 of 20352
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Originally Posted by mojomike View Post

i think he means that every strong positive comment causes even more demand and then creates a bigger backlog.

exactly!!!
post #8199 of 20352
After getting used to the Dragon for about 3 months now, I want another one for even more slam!!
post #8200 of 20352
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Originally Posted by fab5valentine View Post

Every time someone raves on their Epik sub in a review or impressions, and that review is found; like say on this forum.. It bumps Epiks work load up by a week (easy).. Now think if a major reviewer got a hold of one of these subs and wrote a review and it get's published in a mag. Well, I think you and I would be happy with two weeks and/or American parts.. Chad is as busy as can be already.. Good for him.. I'd get the second one now if I could afford it. I'm anxious to receive the first..

-fab

alright no more positive reviews for 2 weeks please
post #8201 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

After getting used to the Dragon for about 3 months now, I want another one for even more slam!!

great now u got me thinking cancel and get the dynasty
post #8202 of 20352
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Originally Posted by is250sp View Post

great now u got me thinking cancel and get the dynasty

the dynasty will have more bottom end, that's it.
post #8203 of 20352
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Originally Posted by is250sp View Post

great now u got me thinking cancel and get the dynasty

To tell you the truth, the dragon is more than I need in my space. If I get another one, it would be insane headroom. That's just me being greedy... I still amazes me everytime I beat the piss out of it. The Phoenix is a great performer too.

Acutally, one of my close friends was in to HT a while back. Like 10yrs back. He asked me what kind of sub I had and is it good. I said, "yes". You should come hear it. He was amazed with the PA-120 when I had it.
post #8204 of 20352
I'm debating if I should get this. EQ Any thoughts?
post #8205 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

I'm debating if I should get this. EQ Any thoughts?

Have you measured your rooms response yet? The EQ.2 is not a bad eq but it is limited to two points, which may not be enough to effectively eq your room.

Another option, although not as nice looking and a bit more work is a Behringer DSP1124 Feedback Destroyer. You can pick one up for $100 or so all day long via the web. It is a pro gear piece (with all the good and bad that brings) that is very powerful, tie it to freeware like REW and you can do a lot.
post #8206 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Snowmanick View Post

Have you measured your rooms response yet? The EQ.2 is not a bad eq but it is limited to two points, which may not be enough to effectively eq your room.

Another option, although not as nice looking and a bit more work is a Behringer DSP1124 Feedback Destroyer. You can pick one up for $100 or so all day long via the web. It is a pro gear piece (with all the good and bad that brings) that is very powerful, tie it to freeware like REW and you can do a lot.

Yeah..that's what I thought. The REW is kinda what I am trying to avoid. The process I have to put together. I have a Radio shack meter already, the REW is lost somewhere in my computer. I wanted to the REW but never got around to it. From one website, it was a very complicated process. With wires everywhere.
post #8207 of 20352
Its got a seep learning curve but once you have it sorted out it is easy to use. The wires are just while you are measuring and adjusting, so the inconvenience is temporary. REW is also useful for measuring multiple locations and verifying what/where and how effective any eq'ing is. Overall I think it is one of the easier tools to use and a lot more effective than just measuring and plotting by hand (I don't miss doing that). If you want a good and simple eq that works well check out the Anti-Mode 8033. You don't get the tweakability of something like the BFD but all you have to do is push two buttons and go have a drink while it does all the number crunching for you.
post #8208 of 20352
Thanks for the info Snowman. I'm still thinking about doing something to make my system sound better that it already is. I guess, I'm bored at home and want to mess with something that's not broken.
post #8209 of 20352
Two points....first about the eQ2. It's a quality piece. It does exactly what is intended....that is, taming peaks and boosting nulls. Unless your room is just a complete nightmare and needs a lot of EQ, it will take care of most issues.

What it won't do is have those very "fine" adjustments (down to the last Hz) that some of the costlier EQs do. It also won't address a broad multiple range of frequencies (as mentioned, it only does two, which is about what most need). Plus, it's only good for one sub (not multiples).

If there's something glaring in your room, it will take care of the most obvious issues.

In short, it does what probably the majority of us want. If I can get EQ close on a couple of peaks or nulls, I'm happy. The EQ.2 does that.

REW does have a bit of a learning curve. But, hooking up an SPL meter to your laptop, and playing some low tones (I use an old AVIA disk that has a bunch of LFE tones), it will give you a good measurement of where those peaks and nulls occur in the frequency range.

I used it to "eyeball" where I could do the most good with the EQ.2. It took me maybe 30 minutes to key in on those after running some sweeps and looking at the graphs it produced. They key is understanding what you're looking at. That takes the most time...using the different graphs, and knowing what they mean.

Doing the sweeps, at different frequencies (I did mine in 10Hz increments from 15Hz up to 100Hz) probably took as much time as understanding the graphs.

If you want something that's more automatic, or with finer adjustments, those other EQ solutions will do that better.
post #8210 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

Yeah..that's what I thought. The REW is kinda what I am trying to avoid. The process I have to put together. I have a Radio shack meter already, the REW is lost somewhere in my computer. I wanted to the REW but never got around to it. From one website, it was a very complicated process. With wires everywhere.

I was the same way.. But really it's not too difficult.. If I could do it... I even do it from my desktop from another room.. Two xtra cables, RCA -- PC to AVR, then RS meter to PC.. I use speaker connect cable as they R cheap.

Hometheater Shack-"getting started" link is fairly step by step.. Then hit the measurement button and the data is right there, and certainly for a single or double band EQ you'll want to use this to take another quick reading after making adjustments and minor tweaks..

But most importantly you'll want to measure to see if you even need EQ.. Test tones are okay but once you install EQ REW is the way to go..

Reach back for the nerve, you'll be glad you did.

-fab
post #8211 of 20352
just got my epik dynasty this morning. My fiancée help me drag it upstairs to HT room, man is it heavy. Can't wait to set it up.
post #8212 of 20352
Im going to try it out this weekend. I went to the HT shack site and they have a bunch of info. I have a laptop already, I just need the cables, spliter/adaptor and software. I am intrested to see the frequency response in my room. Wish me luck!
post #8213 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

Im going to try it out this weekend. I went to the HT shack site and they have a bunch of info. I have a laptop already, I just need the cables, spliter/adaptor and software. I am intrested to see the frequency response in my room. Wish me luck!

Maybe I'm not being nearly as careful, but all I did was hook up my Rat Shack meter on a tripod, hooked it to my laptop. Fired up REW. Did some sweeps with Avia test disk. Plotted the volume at different frequencies, and made adjustments to the eQ.2 accordingly. Not a lot of equipment, per se. Only one cable from the RS meter to the laptop. That's about it.
post #8214 of 20352
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Originally Posted by femi View Post

just got my epik dynasty this morning. My fiancée help me drag it upstairs to HT room, man is it heavy. Can't wait to set it up.

congrats on the purchase. let us know your sonic experiences .
post #8215 of 20352
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Originally Posted by graphicguy View Post

Maybe I'm not being nearly as careful, but all I did was hook up my Rat Shack meter on a tripod, hooked it to my laptop. Fired up REW. Did some sweeps with Avia test disk. Plotted the volume at different frequencies, and made adjustments to the eQ.2 accordingly. Not a lot of equipment, per se. Only one cable from the RS meter to the laptop. That's about it.

That seems easy enough. From reading the HT shack forum, I thought I needed a whole bunch of stuff. Thanks for clearing it up. I have test tones already. So, which sound card sould I use? You pluged the Rat meter into the "mic-in" on the lap top?
post #8216 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

That seems easy enough. From reading the HT shack forum, I thought I needed a whole bunch of stuff. Thanks for clearing it up. I have test tones already. So, which sound card sould I use? You pluged the Rat meter into the "mic-in" on the lap top?

Correct! I've got a MacBook Pro. Not exactly sure what the sound card is.

But, all I was doing was taking SPL readings at different frequencies. Not sure the sound card would make much of a difference.

If I got a much louder reading at....let's say 60Hz than the rest of the frequencies, I used the eQ.2 to back off the 60 Hz frequency (the adjustments on the eQ2 aren't real fine, so you have to play with them a little bit).

Let's say I found a null at 40Hz, I'd use the eQ2 the same way to boost the vol at that frequency.

Not real scientific. Nor, probably correct based on what I've seen some do.

But, it works for me. I no longer have any boominess. And, everything is smoother, with great integration with the rest of my speakers (my sub has now "disappeared" into my system).
post #8217 of 20352
Graphicguy: to tell you the truth, I don't think I have any boomy--ness. I do have a dead spot by a couch right next to the sub. That's the spot Im really concerned about. That's why I like to see what the REW will show. I would put the mic/rat meter at listening position?
post #8218 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

Graphicguy: to tell you the truth, I don't think I have any boomy--ness. I do have a dead spot by a couch right next to the sub. That's the spot Im really concerned about. That's why I like to see what the REW will show. I would put the mic/rat meter at listening position?

Yep!
post #8219 of 20352
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Originally Posted by Hksvr4 View Post

That seems easy enough. From reading the HT shack forum, I thought I needed a whole bunch of stuff. Thanks for clearing it up. I have test tones already. So, which sound card sould I use? You pluged the Rat meter into the "mic-in" on the lap top?

I had to use an outboard usb soundcard, the Behringer U-CONTROL UCA202 USB-Audio Interface seems like the most inexpensive one that def works. REW has built-in test tones and frequence respoinse sweeps. I tried the progran once and gave up. Most people say if you stick with it the program isn't as hard as it seems. Someday I'll give it another try...

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