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post #541 of 3326
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Originally Posted by Quatre View Post

what cc price, not what they have it for now and have had it for for a week or more. you can't compare current price that another store has to what cc had for like a few hours one early morn whether it was a mistake or not.

Very true, the best I could do was $589 at Crutchfield with coupons applied.
post #542 of 3326
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Originally Posted by mhopkins View Post

What is the bass sensitivity for the multichannel input for. It seems you can set it at 0,5,10, and 15db. Is this to compensate for low lfe in pcm? Does it work? I would hate to have to move the bass up and down from DD to pcm everytime. Where should it be set?

Just what the manual says:

"Some DVD players output the LFE channel from their
subwoofer output at 15 dB higher than normal. You can
change the subwoofer sensitivity to match your DVD
player. Note that this setting only affects signals connected
to the SUBWOOFER input jack of the multichannel
DVD input."

This is for analog inputs only. Note that the settings go down, not up.
post #543 of 3326
I have searched through the forum and could not find any evidence of the Wii issue (4:3 display only) being resolved. Has anyone figured it out?

If it's a hardware problem, is there a way to easily update the 705's firmware for a fix?
post #544 of 3326
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Originally Posted by jrjr729 View Post

I believe that I read in the manual that opt1 is set up for the DVD player. try switiching the devices arouns and see if that helps.

I tried it jr ... i cannot get any sound out of opt 1 .. BUT opt 2 works fine. I can plug in my cable or dvd and I get sound out of opt 2 but opt 1 nothing...

I even reset the receiver and started from scratch.. nothing...i think i have a bad port
post #545 of 3326
Question:

Since True HD and DTS HD are HDMI 1.3 spec additions. I have concerns that plugging my TV which is a HDMI 1.2 spec device will lower the entire pipeline down to 1.2 and negate me from ever being able to take advantage of True HD/DTS HD when the time comes (when ps3 gets new firmware).

Does HDMI lower the entire pipline for multiple devices interconnected to the lowest version in the entire chain?

Blu Ray Player (PS3) = HDMI 1.3
Receiver Onkyo 705 = HDMI 1.3
TV Sony Bravia = HDMI 1.2

These 3 devices are all connected together via HDMI cables. Will the, HDMI 1.3, higher quality audio pass through to the receiver and playback at 1.3 True HD/DTS HD.... then drop the video/audio going out of the receiver into the TV down to 1.2? Or will that TV drag all 3 devices down to 1.2?

PS: I am not using my TV for audio playback so if it lowers down to 1.2 at last moment I do not care, but if my TV becomes a burden on taking advantage of new uncompressed audio formats I need to do something about that.

Thanks in advance for anyone who knows the answer.
post #546 of 3326
Hi everybody, hi there mrgribbles.. Wow I am gone for 2 days and now we have more new owners of the 705 and congrats everybody.

I found the problem about not having signal from my subwoofer, I apologized for everybody who tried to help me figuring it out. this is my 4th receiver so I know
connecting the subwoofer is not hard. The problem was I connected my subwoofer
into the 7.1 analog line in my reciever which should be connected to pre-out stu--d me.
and that is why everytime I run the audessey it would say no signal from subwoofer because it is connected to 7.1 analog.

Anyway I don't have any issue at all with my 705 so far I hope it stays like that.
Did any of you bought the extended warranty? is it worth it.

and to everybody I noticed that the neuralthx 7.1 can not be access with mch pcm 5.1
and DTS ES. with SD DVD it is no problem accept with dts es. Can anybody outline
the audio format that the neuralthx 7.1 can be access?


I played 2.0 movie last night just to test it out I access the nueralthx with no problem


And can everybody share their preference?
like for example if you have dolby digital plus from movie set up
I know that this would come out mch pcm 5.1 which DSP modes you prefer for the DDplus
so we have an idea which dsp is preferrable for dtshd hr, dd plus, thruhd and umcompressed 5.1 pcm

Thanks for sharing everyone...

Peter
post #547 of 3326
Okay, I'm considering getting the 705, and I've been trying to make sense of the upconversion aspect. I want to make sure this will work:

Component Input #1 - Wii (480p)
HDMI Input #1 - XBox 360 (1080p)

Component Input #1 Selected = HDMI Output at 720p
HDMI Input #1 Selected = HDMI Output at 1080p

Thanks for your help.

Edit: Also, is it true that for HDMI passthrough to a HDMI connector on a TV that I won't have any lip syncing problems?
post #548 of 3326
woots, it will be fine, or as fine as HDMI can be. What happens is that the player requests EDID info from the TV and AVR so all should be OK. In fact, what your player actually sees from the TV is an AVR modified version of the TV EDID.

Take a look at this post. Very interesting:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post11407701

EDIT: I should point out that all the above is a reasonable guess since I don't have the ability yet to verify it. What I outlined is the way its supposed to work.
post #549 of 3326
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Originally Posted by mrgribbles View Post

woots, it will be fine, or as fine as HDMI can be. What happens is that the player requests EDID info from the TV and AVR so all should be OK. In fact, what your player actually sees from the TV is an AVR modified version of the TV EDID.

Take a look at this post. Very interesting:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post11407701

EDIT: I should point out that all the above is a reasonable guess since I don't have the ability yet to verify it. What I outlined is the way its supposed to work.

Thx MrGribles.. reading into it now.
post #550 of 3326
Well I picked up a 705 at Circuit City yesterday, but ive yet to hook it up. Ive got to get another HDMI cable before I can do that. Hope everything works fine after I get it goin. Im gonna be hooking up the following:

Motorola/Charter cable box via component
Xbox 360 and HD DVD add-on via component
PS3 via HDMI
HDMI out to my Panny plasma

Hope I dont run into any problems!
post #551 of 3326
Quote:
Originally Posted by dolfer View Post

I have searched through the forum and could not find any evidence of the Wii issue (4:3 display only) being resolved. Has anyone figured it out?

If it's a hardware problem, is there a way to easily update the 705's firmware for a fix?

Mine was fixed after changing the setting in the "secret menu" back to Auto instead of 720p.
post #552 of 3326
Am a bit lost

These are my speaker specs

Maximum Recommended Amplifier Power 200 Watts
Impedance 8 Ohms
Sensitivity (2.83V @ 1m) 91dB
Frequency Response (-3dB) 37Hz - 20kHz
Crossover Frequency(ies) 850Hz, 3500Hz

Maximum Recommended Amplifier Power 100 Watts
Sensitivity (2.83V @ 1m) 88dB
Frequency Response (-10dB) 40Hz - 20kHz
Crossover Frequency 2kHz

Maximum Recommended Amplifier Power 150 Watts
Impedance 8 Ohms
Sensitivity (2.83V @ 1m) 91dB
Frequency Response (-3dB) 75Hz - 20kHz
Crossover Frequency(ies) 800Hz, 3200Hz

Subwoofer Velodyne 10"

Amplifier power 170 Watts
Frequency response 35Hz - 140Hz
Subwoofer driver size 10"

When I run the audyssey setup it sets all speakers to full range and sub to 80with double bass on?

Now reading the frequencies on the speakers am guessing they are not full range?

What should I be setting them at?

Also what is 8 omhs mean? I remember seeing 4 and 6 omhs in the onkyo setup..

One last thing it seems my opt1 connector is not working I tried everything (read my previous post) should I be returning it or trying to find a onkyo repair store?

Am really sorry for all the questions but a total nub in home theater...

Thank you for your help this thread has been very very helpful.
post #553 of 3326
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Originally Posted by Utahred1981 View Post

Has anybody tried to use the upconvert function over HDMI? I have my Tivo which uses S-Video connected to the back of my receiver and the HDMI cable going to my tv.

I noticed that the picture looks like it's suffering from video "noise". Anybody else have this issue when using s-video cable?

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Originally Posted by rishi76 View Post

Out of the box, my tivo pic also left a lot to be desired that way. I then went to the hidden menu and made upconvert settings to 720p, contrast 55 and sharpness 16. The pic is much better now with the HDMI cable.

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Originally Posted by mrgribbles View Post

That is EXACTLY what I wound up with for 480i broadcast material. Great minds must think alike. The SD improvement is dramatically improved with these settings. I was going to post this myself. Confirmation is good for my OCD. Thanks

Well folks, I'm extremely happy that your SD is better. I just gave this a go (finally!!!) but I'm afraid the Comcast is delivering such crap that nothing helps it. I see a minor difference when switching back and fourth between AUTO and 720p, but it still is noisy and I'd rather be watching HD (DID YOU HEAR THAT COMCAST???)... but I'm leaving it on 720p just because I can. BTW: 805, SD TiVo, SD analog cable (), 60" SXRD XBR-1.
post #554 of 3326
I am currently connecting my gaming systems (Wii and Xbox) to my 705 via component and left my "secret setting" at AUTO. I prefer the wide screen to the up-conversion, even though the 720p looks better.

If anyone finds a way around this without toying with the TV, that'd be sweet. The office has been a pain and I'm new to this HT stuff, but maybe I'll see what I can dig up this week on this topic. Doubt I'll find anything, so please don't hold your breath.
post #555 of 3326
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Originally Posted by fadoodled View Post

I am currently connecting my gaming systems (Wii and Xbox) to my 705 via component and left my "secret setting" at AUTO. I prefer the wide screen to the up-conversion, even though the 720p looks better.

If anyone finds a way around this without toying with the TV, that'd be sweet. The office has been a pain and I'm new to this HT stuff, but maybe I'll see what I can dig up this week on this topic. Doubt I'll find anything, so please don't hold your breath.

So do you output through HDMI or Component?
post #556 of 3326
My first post in this thread - thanks for all the info! I was dead set on a Denon receiver to replace my old HK. But when I saw the prices and features of the 705 I had to jump in. So I got the 705 a couple weeks ago through the CC deal. With tax (free shipping) I paid $705 (ironic, huh?). But now I'm thinking I may order from Vann's and return this one. Would save my $75. Just wondering if it's worth that to be able to walk it back to the CC down the street if anything goes wrong... Kind of a nice convenience.

Anyways, haven't been able to set it up yet. We're having some work done to the house and I'm waiting until my new HT shelves are installed so I can connect everything up. Quick list of components:

Panasonic TH-50PX77U 50" Plasma (2 HMDI inputs)
DirecTV HD-DVR (HDMI)
XBOX 360 Elite (HDMI)
Toshiba Upconverting DVD Player (HDMI)
Sony 5 DVD Changer (Component)
Polk speakers (5)
KML Sub

My only question is, how much space does this baby need to stay cool?

Eddie
post #557 of 3326
I have a DVD player sitting right on top of mine. It has yet to get over 134F. If you think that is hot then Onkyo recommends 8" of top clearance. BTW, the 705 has two small fans on the bottom so the warm (or hot depending on your view) air exits through the top. "Stay cool" I don't think there is a cool amplifier. The major heat area is above the processor(s) and they run hot. Intel rates their mobile (low watt - cool running) processors at up to 200 F, they do put out 34w when running full tilt. No doubt about it, cooler equipment is happier equipment so I guess its up to the owner on if they see it as a problem.
post #558 of 3326
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Originally Posted by mrgribbles View Post

I have a DVD player sitting right on top of mine. It has yet to get over 134F. If you think that is hot then Onkyo recommends 8" of top clearance. BTW, the 705 has two small fans on the bottom so the warm (or hot depending on your view) air exits through the top. "Stay cool" I don't think there is a cool amplifier. The major heat area is above the processor(s) and they run hot. Intel rates their mobile (low watt - cool running) processors at up to 200 F, they do put out 34w when running full tilt. No doubt about it, cooler equipment is happier equipment so I guess its up to the owner on if they see it as a problem.

You have a player right on top?
It must just cook that baby. Which player are you burning up that you want to get rid of? All kidding aside, do you really? The shelf above my 705 is about 3 inches away and it gets HOT. I would hate to cook a DVD player at a closer range.
post #559 of 3326
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Originally Posted by rutlian View Post

Hi everybody, hi there mrgribbles.. Wow I am gone for 2 days and now we have more new owners of the 705 and congrats everybody.

I found the problem about not having signal from my subwoofer, I apologized for everybody who tried to help me figuring it out. this is my 4th receiver so I know
connecting the subwoofer is not hard. The problem was I connected my subwoofer
into the 7.1 analog line in my reciever which should be connected to pre-out stu--d me.
and that is why everytime I run the audessey it would say no signal from subwoofer because it is connected to 7.1 analog.

Anyway I don't have any issue at all with my 705 so far I hope it stays like that.
Did any of you bought the extended warranty? is it worth it.

and to everybody I noticed that the neuralthx 7.1 can not be access with mch pcm 5.1
and DTS ES. with SD DVD it is no problem accept with dts es. Can anybody outline
the audio format that the neuralthx 7.1 can be access?


I played 2.0 movie last night just to test it out I access the nueralthx with no problem


And can everybody share their preference?
like for example if you have dolby digital plus from movie set up
I know that this would come out mch pcm 5.1 which DSP modes you prefer for the DDplus
so we have an idea which dsp is preferrable for dtshd hr, dd plus, thruhd and umcompressed 5.1 pcm

Thanks for sharing everyone...

Peter


Pages 67 through 70 of your user's manual show which input types that Neural THX 7.1 Surround can be used with.
post #560 of 3326
Hi rutlian,

I did the exact same thing when I set up my 705 2 weeks ago. I eventually figured it out after reading the input diagram in the manual. It sure was frustrating.

Glad you were able to figure it out.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by rutlian View Post

Hi everybody, hi there mrgribbles.. Wow I am gone for 2 days and now we have more new owners of the 705 and congrats everybody.

I found the problem about not having signal from my subwoofer, I apologized for everybody who tried to help me figuring it out. this is my 4th receiver so I know
connecting the subwoofer is not hard. The problem was I connected my subwoofer
into the 7.1 analog line in my reciever which should be connected to pre-out stu--d me.
and that is why everytime I run the audessey it would say no signal from subwoofer because it is connected to 7.1 analog.

Anyway I don't have any issue at all with my 705 so far I hope it stays like that.
Did any of you bought the extended warranty? is it worth it.

and to everybody I noticed that the neuralthx 7.1 can not be access with mch pcm 5.1
and DTS ES. with SD DVD it is no problem accept with dts es. Can anybody outline
the audio format that the neuralthx 7.1 can be access?


I played 2.0 movie last night just to test it out I access the nueralthx with no problem


And can everybody share their preference?
like for example if you have dolby digital plus from movie set up
I know that this would come out mch pcm 5.1 which DSP modes you prefer for the DDplus
so we have an idea which dsp is preferrable for dtshd hr, dd plus, thruhd and umcompressed 5.1 pcm

Thanks for sharing everyone...

Peter
post #561 of 3326
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Originally Posted by ZackScott View Post

So do you output through HDMI or Component?

I ONLY output video via HDMI to my Samsung 1080p LCD... I'm debating whether its worth getting a component cable to output from the 705 to the Samsung as well.

Does anyone know if I run my component in through a component out, will it pass through, or up-convert? I thought I read somewhere that it will up-convert, but only to the next level (480i -> 480p and/or 720i -> 720p and 1080 just passes through).

Anyone know?

Has anyone noticed that the receiver OSD only shows up when using component inputs? I don't see any of the 705 OSD when I'm using my HDMI input (DISH Network).
post #562 of 3326
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Originally Posted by fadoodled View Post

Has anyone noticed that the receiver OSD only shows up when using component inputs? I don't see any of the 705 OSD when I'm using my HDMI input (DISH Network).

Yes. That's one of the few things I dislike about this receiver.
post #563 of 3326
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Originally Posted by mrgribbles View Post

Hidden Menu.

Remember, you have to use the buttons on the AVR, not the remote. Press and hold "AUX" and while you're holding AUX, press standby (Power on/off).


more of a reminder of how to get to the hidden menu as i just spent a bit looking for it on this thread

I have LOVED this thread and my 705 so far. i just learned a ton of noob stuff tonight reading the explanations about crossover that jeremy posted. i had no idea.... anyway, thanks! need to go do some more tinkering.

unfortunately, i'm getting ready to try for my 3rd hdmi box for cable -1st one had picture go out every 15 secs or so, and second the dvr doesn't work, so will have to try a third this week.
post #564 of 3326
Quote:
Originally Posted by fadoodled View Post

I ONLY output video via HDMI to my Samsung 1080p LCD... I'm debating whether its worth getting a component cable to output from the 705 to the Samsung as well.

Does anyone know if I run my component in through a component out, will it pass through, or up-convert? I thought I read somewhere that it will up-convert, but only to the next level (480i -> 480p and/or 720i -> 720p and 1080 just passes through).

Anyone know?

Has anyone noticed that the receiver OSD only shows up when using component inputs? I don't see any of the 705 OSD when I'm using my HDMI input (DISH Network).

The rule of thumb on these badboys is: "What goes on in Vegas, stays in Vegas." If you go in and out the same, no upconversion. If you go up a notch, say component to HDMI or S-video t oHDMI then you get Faroudjaed.

In the same vein, if you are processing video via Dr Faroudja, you will get volume OSD, HDMI to HDMI - nope.
post #565 of 3326
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Originally Posted by Tim Sly View Post

You have a player right on top?
It must just cook that baby. Which player are you burning up that you want to get rid of? All kidding aside, do you really? The shelf above my 705 is about 3 inches away and it gets HOT. I would hate to cook a DVD player at a closer range.

As I kinda implied, some sweat it (pun intended) some don't. I have no problems with the DVD player (should I add yet?). To me, 135F in one isolated spot on the chassis, isn't hot at all. My notebook will cook your heirlooms which is why I no longer refer to it as a laptop. I use a wide open TV stand so I don't have the problems others do in door'd racks and enclosures. If I was enclosed, the whole shebang would be forced ventilation.

Back in my salad years I built a lot of electronic goodies and starting with Heathkit amps and some from scratch, we were always modding these things to get 5 more watts of power (30w was a big number back then for home stereo). Talk about heat. Nothing like upping a vacuum tube or two. I swear you could get sunburned just listening to music.

As I try to point out, all should do what they feel comfortable with. I'm OK with my setup until I have reason not to be. Kinda like my take on HDMI cables, 1.2 vs 1.3 etc. They all will work unless they don't. Btw, thanks for your concern.
post #566 of 3326
Hi, I've posted about this before but needed to research my speakers to get a more accurate portrayal of the problem.

In short, my top volume with the 705 is drastically lower when I'm using all of the speakers in my 7.1 system, whether it be through the Neural 7.1 or any other format, compared to using 5.1 speakers. It's not too quiet to hear, it just maxes out at average listening level, before it's loud enough for movies that want to played be loud. The problem happens through various sources (Dish (optical), HD-DVD (HDMI), etc.) I didn't have this problem on my previous receiver, a Yamaha rx-v2500.

I don't know if it's related to the Audyssey setup or not, so I'm including my setup and speaker specs... sorry, I'm a noob regarding the science of this:

Speakers:

Polk Audio RM7600 (front 5 speakers incl. center)
Overall freq. response 25Hz-28kHz
Lower-3db 28Hz
Upper-3db 23kHz
Nom. Impedance 8 ohms
Rec. Amp. 20-150 watts /ch
Efficiency89 db
Crossover2.5 kHz / 12db / octave

Renaissance Acoustic RW 6.5X (in-walls, back 2 speakers)
Overall freq. response 50Hz-20kHz
Lower+3db 20kHz
Upper+3db 50Hz
Nom. Impedance 8 ohms
Rec. Amp. 10-100 watts /ch
Efficiency90 db
Crossover24 db

Subwoofer: KLH ASW10-120B (I know, it's a not a great sub)
Frequency range: 30 to 40-180
120 watts, powered
Gain is set near minimum
Frequency is set around 75Hz

Here are the setting on the 705 that Audyssey picked, which sound great, although quiet:

2-1 Speaker Settings

6 ohms, normal

2-2 Speaker Config

Subwoofer: yes
Front: Full
Center: 80Hz
Surround: 80Hz
Surr Back: 90Hz
Surr Back Ch: 2ch
LPF or LFE: 80Hz
Double Bass: On

2-4 Level Calibration

Left -2
Center -5
Right -1
Surround Right -3
Surround Back Right -7
Surround Back Left -6
Surround Left -2
Sub +12

Sorry to throw all these specs at ya, but someone asked when I posted the issue previously. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #567 of 3326
Yep, specs help, but, check with Polk because you really should have the specs for each speaker not a "system" frequency response. Try to get frequency response, efficiency and ohms. Although I feel this is good gear, I have a problem with Polk, why do they hide the info, marketing?

I don't think your fronts would actually be full. But I think that Audyssey has a great deal of control over how it establishes FR. The bottom end of FR isn't a hard cut-off number, typically its rated at a 3dB difference in volume. Since, via equalization, Audyssey can boost the volume over any frequency, it may choose to do it, so your published FR curve gets a boost that raises the drop-off. At least I think so.

1st, turn Audyssey off (you can always turn it back on). Any difference?
2nd, leave Audyssey off, set all your speakers to 80, leave the LFE on the sub at 80. Any difference? If better, turn Audyssey back on. Any difference?
3rd, I may need hlep on this but I think you want to turn off the xover setting on the sub and let the 705 control it.

Are you maxed at volume? Don't forget max volume is +18 on the absolute scale, not 0. 0 is THX reference level, I think 75 (or is it 85?) dB.

I know this doesn't directly address the 5.1 vs 7.1 issue you're dealing with but lets do it one step at a time. (Actually I need more head scratch time )
post #568 of 3326
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Originally Posted by timfitz99 View Post

Hi, I've posted about this before but needed to research my speakers to get a more accurate portrayal of the problem.

In short, my top volume with the 705 is drastically lower when I'm using all of the speakers in my 7.1 system, whether it be through the Neural 7.1 or any other format, compared to using 5.1 speakers. It's not too quiet to hear, it just maxes out at average listening level, before it's loud enough for movies that want to played be loud. The problem happens through various sources (Dish (optical), HD-DVD (HDMI), etc.) I didn't have this problem on my previous receiver, a Yamaha rx-v2500.

I don't know if it's related to the Audyssey setup or not, so I'm including my setup and speaker specs... sorry, I'm a noob regarding the science of this:

-- snip --

2-4 Level Calibration

Left -2
Center -5
Right -1
Surround Right -3
Surround Back Right -7
Surround Back Left -6
Surround Left -2
Sub +12

Sorry to throw all these specs at ya, but someone asked when I posted the issue previously. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Gday I am pretty much a noob with this stuff too, however i was having similar problems with my 705... I just got it this weekend (we only just got 705s shipment in australia last week). This is a great thread by the way, i have been reading it for the last few weeks once i decided i was getting a 705, and was waiting for them to be released here! So anyway, I have paired it with Accusound Theta TH100/300 (they are a local aussie made speaker). Previous to this we had a HTIB type thing, so this is our first "decent" setup. At the moment its connected to a sony CRT via component, but a 46" LCD or 50" Plasma is next in the list.

Im not running 7.1 like you, but i had similar disapointments over volume levels. I found myself needing to be higher up the volume knob than i expected, and our surround speakers which are quite close to the sides of the couch were too "noticable" in the soundstage. Movies sounded OK but i just didnt "feel" it when i tried to listen to some music (which had sounded great on these speakers in the store when demo'd, hooked up to a previous gen 604 onkyo). I really did expect a lot more

Tonight i got first chance since, to play more with it. I discovered that audyssey had set similar channel levels to yours... lowered them all across the board. It made a nice difference in my case to bring them back to 0db and work from there. I ended up with fronts and center 0db and surrounds still had -4 since they were bothering me and i wanted the soundstage to be brought forward.

You should also check out the speaker distances (measured from the speaker to you/the listener) and tweak them if you need to. My surrounds were set much farther away than they actually are, so i set them to .6m. The sub also was at 8m when it is right next to my L speaker, so more like 2m!

The other thing i found to make a big difference was under Equaliser Settings 2-5. I changed it from the equaliser Audyssey calculated, to None (flat response). Music sounds way beefier now, its really letting the speakers get more sound to do their thing with.

So yeah, im a pretty big noob as well, but that is what worked in my experience. My initial dissapointments turned out to be purely due to the Audssey calibration (id probably get better results if i re-ran it more than the first time)... but ive got it sounding how i wanted now without using audssey, and my initial dissapointments have been completely blown away by the awesomeness Not that i had much previously to compare to this though, so it was inevitable i would be .blown away (hence my initial dissapointments when i wasnt). Hopefully you are in a similar boat... give it a go with 0db levels and a flat EQ and reports back
post #569 of 3326
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrgribbles View Post

Yep, specs help, but, check with Polk because you really should have the specs for each speaker not a "system" frequency response. Try to get frequency response, efficiency and ohms. Although I feel this is good gear, I have a problem with Polk, why do they hide the info, marketing?

I don't think your fronts would actually be full. But I think that Audyssey has a great deal of control over how it establishes FR. The bottom end of FR isn't a hard cut-off number, typically its rated at a 3dB difference in volume. Since, via equalization, Audyssey can boost the volume over any frequency, it may choose to do it, so your published FR curve gets a boost that raises the drop-off. At least I think so.

1st, turn Audyssey off (you can always turn it back on). Any difference?
2nd, leave Audyssey off, set all your speakers to 80, leave the LFE on the sub at 80. Any difference? If better, turn Audyssey back on. Any difference?
3rd, I may need hlep on this but I think you want to turn off the xover setting on the sub and let the 705 control it.

Are you maxed at volume? Don't forget max volume is +18 on the absolute scale, not 0. 0 is THX reference level, I think 75 (or is it 85?) dB.

I know this doesn't directly address the 5.1 vs 7.1 issue you're dealing with but lets do it one step at a time. (Actually I need more head scratch time )

Oh my god, how noob am I! the volume goes up to +18 ??? hehehe I thought that 0 was max, and due to my speakers still being run in, i didnt want to take it to what i thought was "max volume".

My long winded comments above, where i say i was too far up the volume knob, i was at -5 or so! if i can take it up to +18db then yeah, my problem was mostly the fact that i am a noob. This is the first receiver ive had that shows negative db levels. Wow. Shame its late now and i cant test out this new found power I should even try audssey again, now that i know i can run it up that high. I guess it pays to read even the "dumb" bits of the manual like how to control volume Thanks for clearing that up mrgribbles. Also thanks for all the information you've provided in this and the 605 thread (i too was originally looking at the 605 and am so glad to have decided to up it to the 705!). Its funny, my surname is gribble so i always noticed the your posts. I agree with what you said earlier, the 705 is the pick of the range for bang for buck and features, for the midrange buyer at least. The 3 HDMI, full pre-outs, learning remote, processing/matrixing and THX are certainly worth it over the 605, and IMO the 805 doesnt justify its price premium over the 705. Im sure however, if we could all afford an 875 or 905 we would take it though!
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scarecrow420, welcome to the forum and thanks for the experience. South of the equator, do you have to switch polarity on the speakers?

Did you actually see the Audyssey equalizer settings?? I don't know how to do that, if you did, can you tell me how. Much appreciated.
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