I finally made a decision. Just ordered the eD A5-350 Subwoofer. - Page 23

No, yes, yes, and yes.

These are the hourglass feet that are available from eD as an option when you buy the A5 - 350. They are not one piece. The sub comes with the spikes already attached and you set the spikes into them. I didn't think about getting a picture of the one of them prior to putting the sub onto them. I would pull one out and snap a pic if it wasn't such a pain to get the sub back on them.

why not just mount the spikes on 4 blocks of wood this would give more height and not dig into the carpet. This is what i intend to do.

I have come to the conclusion that they have stopped updating the website and the next stage will be notification of a tracking number. Mine has been in woodshop under construction for 2 weeks that cannot be right considering the resources they are throwing at these orders.

11/26/2007 Processing
11/26/2007 Awaiting Woodshop
12/02/2007 Box Under Construction

My initial impression of this sub is very good. The bass is very tight and controlled for a 15" dual ported design. I assumed I would be giving up a some musical reproduction accuracy when I switched from my 2x Paradigm PW-2100 subs to this one but I don't believe I have. I believe it actually sounds tighter and more accurate than my PW-2100's for music reproduction. It has a very nice smooth sound and seems to be integrating with the mains better than my PW-2100's did. I can't explain it any better than that and I can't explain why this would be the case.

I watched a few clips with good bass tracks and was again impressed with how tight and even the bass was. I was also impressed with how hard it hit. The scenes that have that chest pounding bass bass really...um, pound you in the chest, butt, feet, head, etc. We then watched a movie with the kid's (Surfs Up on DVD) and I was even more impressed. I noticed scenes where the bass didn't "sound" loud but you still felt impact from the sub. It was subtle and wasn't overbearing. It just felt natural. I had never seen this movie before so I can't comment on this sub vs. the PW-2100's on it.

My wife and I put the kids to bed and watched Underworld on Blueray. I have seen this movie many times so I was able to do a pretty good comparison between the two subs with this movie. The A5 - 350 was amazing with this movie. There were scenes where the sub would hit with so much force that I was like "wow, that was more intense than I recall...". I also noticed some scenes where the bass doesn't sound loud but you still feel impact.

I think the thing I am noticing most about this sub, compared to my old subs, is how effortlessly it reproduces the bass frequencies. It hits with so much more authority but never seems to be really working hard doing it. I think the Pararadigm subs had to work so hard to deliver some of the notes that they were getting muddy. This sub extends all the way down to 18Hz in my room with no problem and has so much more headroom than my pair of 10's ever could.

Here are some graphs I saved during my tweaking and tuning of the sub yesterday. As you will see, I had an overall better starting point with this sub and I actually had something to work with bellow ~30Hz.

I applied a house curve and two filters on the BFD along with what the Audyssey program PEQ applied and ended up with a pretty good response. My room has some pretty strange acoustic characteristics as you will also see but this sub gives me a much better starting, and ending, point. I still need to do some additional treatment for some peaks and nulls around the crossover point (80Hz), just above it, and elsewhere throughout the upper frequencies.

Here's the sub only with no filters applied on the BFD and no Audyssey filters.






Here's one of the A5-350 (blue line) compared to my PW-2100 (red line)

Notice how much more I have to work with below ~30Hz on the eD sub.

After adding the mains








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Here's the sub with the mains after running Audyssey and letting it apply PEQ filters.






Here's what I ended up with, for now, after running the Audyssey program, applying two filters and a house curve with the BFD.






I am very pleased with this sub after only playing around with it for a few hours. I can't believe the performance you get for the price. This thing is less expensive than one of my PW-2100's and based on what I have heard so far, thoroughly the PW-2100's but. Sure the finish could be a nicer but it really isn't as bad as what some of the comments I read lead me to believe.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy this sub again. I only wish it was out ~2.5 years ago when I bought my 10's. The two 10's will be going on eBay soon.

Here's my HT system that I added the eD A5 - 350 to.

Display
JVC HD-61Z585

Receiver
Onkyo TX-SR705 (this is where the Audyssey program happends)

Speakers
Mains: Paradigm Monitor 7
Center: Paradigm CC-370
Surrounds: Paradigm ADP-370
Rear Surrounds: Paradigm ADP-370
Sub: Went from 2x Paradigm PW-2100 to a single eD A5 - 350

Sources
HD-DVD: Toshiba HD-A35
Blueray/Game: Playstation 3
SACD/DVD-A: Yamaha DVD-S1500
Game: XBOX 360
Cable: Scientific Atlantic 8300HD

Remotes
Sony Playstation 3 BD remote for watching BD titles only
Harmony 880 for everything else

Other
Behringer Feedback Destroyer Pro (BFD) FBQ2496

http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=113
FWIW if been reading this usb on this remote makes it possible to use Harmony remotes with the PS3. For the price maybe worth it to you?? Research it.

Thanks for the graphs Razor. Are you saying that the Audyssey EQ function in my new 805 will work its magic on my sub too? I didn't understand the manual much on the subject.

I don't think that is the case. I think they are this far behind. Mine is in its 7th day of Final Assembly. The only thing left is to ship it. If only waiting for a tracking number, I am still in the same boat -- waiting for it to ship.

I am just getting the feeling that they will not ship it with Saturday or Holiday day deliveries. Therefore, if mine doesn't ship tomorrow, I doubt I will receive it before Christmas -- 6 days from today is Saturday, no Sunday deliveries, Monday is XMas eve and probably a no go for deliveries without fee, then Tuesday is XMas which means no deliveries. I am only guessing, if mine doesn't ship tomorrow, I don't see it until after Xmas.

My A2-300 has been in "Final Assembly" since December 7th... I was told by Chris @eD late last week that I would absolutely get it in time for Christmas. I really hope so..

I suspect that the ice storms that have plagued the midwest have slowed things down over there, but I will be pretty unhappy if my sub does not arrive before Christmas. I bought it in mid November and was told 2-3 weeks to get it shipped. I have a whole stack of Blu-Ray and HD DVD flicks waiting to be watched, but I want the experience with the new sub, not my crappy Polk PSW10.

Thanks for the link. I have actually ordered on of the Sony PS3 IR Upgrade with Power ON/OFF Control from Schmart Solutions but I don't think they will be shipping them out until after Christmas so I have to use two remotes for now. You can read more about them in this thread and this one too.


You're welcome. I can't guarantee it will work magic but it did a pretty good job on mine. In fact, it did a pretty good job on all of the speakers and has really smoothed the sound out across the whole frequency range. I would strongly recommend you run it and see how you like it. Give it a couple days after you run it before deciding one way or the other like with any change you make. There is a good chance it will set your crossover points very high on some speakers and very low on others. It set my mains to full range, my surrounds to 80Hz, my rear surrounds and CC to 120Hz, and my sub to 80Hz. This didn't sound great to my ears so I took a measurement and found the graph to match my ears - not smooth. I set all the crossover points to 80Hz and it sounded better and also smoothed delivered a much smoother graph. It also seems to do a pretty good job of widening the sweet spot in my theater room - no bad seats. It does take a while to go through the measurements and calibration so plan on doing it when you can allocate some time to it. You will also want to make sure you do it when it is reasonably quiet. I think it took about 30 - 45 minutes to go all the way through the Audyssey setup on my system. I only calibrated for three seating positions so it will take longer if you have more locations to calibrate for. Check out this thread for more information on the Audyssey program. You can also check out this thread on the 705. It may still be of some use to you even though you have an 805.

Mine has been awaiting wood shop since Nov. 29th.

I did get the rest of the system really impressively quick though!

Tom

One thing...before I read the rest of your posts...

You actually unscrew the very tip of the spike. Thread the rod that was in the extra spikes into the opening in the non-tipped spike and thread the other one on to it.

They should be one solid piece when done.

Alright,

In regards to the "will I get it before Christmas"

Unless a FedEx truck explodes with a bunch of our stuff on it, absolutely everyone that ordered 11/26 or earlier will still be getting stuff before Christmas.

I just received confirmation from FedEx that there is Christmas Eve delivery for all of those A5-350's. We're getting a semi from FedEx out here on Wednesday to get all those out.

If there are any questions about a specific order, let me know...I was in from 7~3 Saturday and 11~2 Sunday putting these things together so I'm pretty sure there are quite a few going out

Ohhhhh

I didn't realize that is what the rod was for. I only saw one of the threaded rods you are talking about and I commented to my wife that I "...wonder what this is for...and why would there only be one of them in here?". I'll go through all the packaging and see if I can find the other three tonight.

BTW, Great sub you designed here. My initial impressions are very high so far.

Good...you saw this

I tried calling you but it rang about 200 times then hit what sounded like AUDIX.

Can you go into Abt electornics and pick one of these up? What stores carry these?

I'd agree with you. Don't despair, I got a nice surprise over the weekend:

Order History

11/26/2007 Processing
11/26/2007 Awaiting Woodshop
12/15/2007 Shipped


Of course, I'm assuming that I won't end up with a FedEx box full of uncut MDF, a speaker and a plate amp. j/k.

That's really strange. I have no idea what number you would have called that would use Audix unless it was my work number. I didn't think I used that for this order and it should have picked up after 5 rings.


I also didn't find the other three rods for the feet in any of the packaging. I saw the one in the plastic bag the feet were in and commented to my wife...I guess I already covered that.

Oh well, I sent you a PM. We can work outside of this thread to figure out what PN you were calling and see about getting the other three rods to me.

Thanks again for the great product. My high opinion of this sub is increasing with every minute I spend listening to it. I expected it to be a noticeable improvement over my old setup for movies but I have been thoroughly, and pleasantly surprised in how well it performs on music. It is surprisingly musical for a 15", down firing, dual ported sub. I think it actually sounds better and more natural with the music I have played on it so far than my previous subs. The music I have played on it so far is:

DVD-A
David Sanborn - Timeagain
Eagles - Hotel California
Queen - The Game
Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing

SACD
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Dire Straigts - Brothers in Arms
Spyro Gyra - Deep End
Steely Dan - Gaucho

All of these recordings sounded very smooth and very natural. I was expecting the bass to be a little bit looser/less controlled when listening to music but that has not been the case and I would actually say it sounds even better than the old subs.

To anyone still waiting on this sub,

I know my comments aren't going to help with your patience and may actually make you long even more for the arrival of your sub but trust me...the wait is well worth it. I had very high hopes for this sub and while my expectations typically surpass the actual results on things like this, they were met and possibly even exceeded this time.

take pics of just the hourglass razor! thanks in advance

i have this sub and love it.congrats and enjoy it

The only pics I have of the hourglass feet are of the sub sitting on them. You can see those pics in my earlier thread in case you haven't already seen it yet. I didn't take any shots of the hourglass add-ons before I set the sub on them and I'm not planning on moving the sub until I get three more of the rods to attach them correctly. Sorry, but this thing is a monster to move and a royal pain to set on the hourglass feet (incorrectly). I'll take some pics of the spikes, the hourglass feet, the connecting rods, and everything assembled when I get the three additional rods unless someone else does so first.

i'm talking about, when you find the other three rods and when you plan on installing them i'm sure you'll have the sub on its side to do this

I can wait

Yep. That's exactly when I said I would do it.

right, thanks!

Chris pm'd me telling me that orders had to be shipped a specific way in order for everyone to have them by XMas. That explains it all. That is good news for all of us.

Is this what you are looking for.

It definitely is normally FIFO.

However, due to the fact that we want to get everyones out so it arrives by Christmas and some people live farther away, I reordered the shipping for this week so they all arrive on/before Monday.

I realize that means someone who ordered on the 26th but lives in CA will get a shipping confirmation prior to someone who ordered on the 20th and lives in IL, but it is the only way I could make sure they all arrived on time.

The good news is you should all end up getting them Friday/Monday.

Your a star thanks Chris

11/26/2007 Processing
11/26/2007 Awaiting Woodshop
12/02/2007 Box Under Construction

yes, something like that, but with a bigger picture

As I speculated, I will not receive my subwoofer as scheduled. eD decided to ship orders in a manner that was inconsistent with when you placed it. I will now be missing a Christmas gift on Christmas day while someone else will receive theirs when ordered 9 days later and receive it a 7+ days later.

I know this is unfortunate and some people wouldn't mind. However, when you are insured you would have it by a specific date, it should be there, especially while orders after yours were shipped.

There is nothing I can do at this point, all I can hope for is it exceeds expectations. I will have to explain why it is not here on Christmas.