The "Official" Yamaha RX-V1800/RX-V3800 Thread - Page 49

The local BB is selling this unit at $1199. There are some great pricing on Ebay for around $850 for new units in the box. Has anybody on here bought a 1800 from Ebay distributors, and if so who did you use or recommend? I've always stayed away from buying electronics through Ebay, but the pricing is huge difference plus no tax. The other problem could be warranties if there is an issue.

So I got my rx-v3800 earlier this week, and hooked it up. Everything went OK. But now I am noticing that all of my "Surround Decoders" are grayed or disabled. I have tried the two troubleshooting steps in the back of the manual. What gives?

- Make sure it isn't "B" stock
- Make sure it is a US model
- Make sure it carries full Yamaha FACTORY Warranty

How you accurately and correctly verify this through an ebay seller is beyond me.

I'm still trying to figure out why DTS-HD Master causes the display to light 7.1 channels, either from BD or HD discs. The GUI's Signal Info accurately shows 5.1 channels, however.

So far nobody else has mentioned this on the thread.

I cannot believe Yamaha customer support is closed on the weekend!

Which, btw, is when most people who work have time to work on setting this up!

Not a good sign!

What is "B" stock?

toby....

"How you accurately and correctly verify this through an ebay seller is beyond me."

I agree. That is why I'd never buy anything like this product on eBay.

OK, I just hooked up my Yamaha 1800 with Dish Satellite Box and (S-Vid & Audio Cables) DVD player (S-Vid and Digital Coaxial) then sent an S-Vid to my TV (8 year old Sony).

No satellite, just snow. Now, the DVD comes in great on the TV, but I can only get satellite on the TV when I directly connect the satellite box to the TV using a standard RF Coaxial, or S-vid. Which bypasses the receiver.

Any suggestions on how to get the signal from the satellite box => 1800 => TV with video???

Defective 1800 or Dish receiver?

repaired, reworked, reconditioned, returned to store, open box re-packed, etc......

B Stock are opens and returns, demos, etc.

Try 6Ave and let them know you heard about their deals on the forum...saves a few hundred from current MSRP.

Some Ebay sellers are authorized B&Ms who also sell on Ebay.

See if sat box is sending a 480i signal.

Just to verify: DVD & sat box into 1800 then one S-video out to tv?

Yes, one S-vid.

How do I find out if sat box is sending in 480i?

It probably is sending 480i if it is sending over S-video correctly to tv. I think S-video is not capable of anything higher, but don't know for sure.

See if there is a setting on the sat box for upconverting. You will want it as PASS-THROUGH. Your sat box and/or tv might have a menu item to check signal info (480, 720, 1080).

Also, make sure sat box is on an a non-HD channel for your initial testing.

You might want to try switching the S-video inputs temporarily. See if DVD properly plays on sat input. If sat still won't display properly on DVD input, you know the problem lies with the sat box.

Make sure you are pressing the proper input on your 1800 remote.

Set input on 1800 to AUTO.

My TV will only accept composite, S-vid, or RF coaxial, as it is 8 years old. The sat box will only send over RF coaxial, S-vid, or composite. There aren't even component vid outs.

Sat box to TV works fine, just not when I pass through the 1800.

As stated in my last post (edited) try swapping inputs.

Anyone else having a hard time reading the volume control from 10 to 12 feet away? Does this unit allow the volume control be seen on the tv? Thanks,

Yes, as long as your input is NOT HDMI.

In regards to my question above... I can not get DTS working from either my XBOX (HD-DVD) or Tivo... I believe this is why my "Surround Decoders" are not working. So my next question is, why are these not working?

WOW...how strange is that...All of my inputs are HDMI accept for the Wii.

Then you are **** outta luck.

OSD (volume, input source, etc...) cannot be overlayed over an HDMI signal. Mostly due to HDCP (copy protection).

If (just for shits & giggles) you want to see what OSD looks like (even over HDMI output to your tv) just switch to any non video source and adjust the volume. You will see it on your tv.

m1,

I'd say most of us are too far away from the receiver in general to read the volume display. I can see the little bars just fine. And I just got attitude, I mean JUST, from my wife as we're watching Phantom of the Opera and she has the remote. She was turning it up and asked me (the 1800 is new to us) how she can see the volume number. And I said, "Can't you HEAR the volume increase?" Well, that was the WRONG answer..... I bascially got a "talk to the hand" move in the middle of Phantom of the Opera! Quite comical.



On our "old" Pioneer 1015 the volume number was indeed big, on our Sony the red led on the volume knob moved and you could see what was happening. Doesn't look like Yahama thought this mattered. For me I listen to the volume, I don't watch teh volume indication it on the receiver.

In terms of display realestate I'd rather see some of the audio decoding information be easier to read.

"just switch to any non video source and adjust the volume."

Isn't there something more than that to do in setup? Redirect video or something? I just tried and I'm getting no signal at my RPTV. Where's that manual....

You may need to turn on OSD in menu, dunno. But any non HDMI input selection (video or not), even an input that is empty (no device at that input), will render the OSD on your tv, including over HDMI.

seller electronuus aka gliccogroup@yahoo.com on ebay often has the rx-v1800 for 750. they claim: a-stock, factory sealed, not refurbished. they carry pioneers and denons too. though it looks like the rx-v1800 is up to 810 + 50 for shipping. a search on stereophile has a few store fronts selling it for 850. not sure what shipping will hit you. reading this thread it looks like people are getting good deals out of 6ave via email negotiated price.

it all depends if you want to roll the dice or not...

-nev

toby...

"will render the OSD on your tv, including over HDMI."

My TV will not activate a port with no input. Its one of the advantages of the full hdmi stuff, Samsung calls it Anynet, Sony calls it something else.

I'll play but on some of the new TV's if there is no signal on the port it won't open up the signal to the display.

Edit: I had my hdmi video settings to "Through". So anything coming into the receiver and on to the TV displayed fine. It went "Through". But when trying to display stuff originating in the receiver it did not show up. Going into setup did but that's all. Once changed to 1080p and "Smart", can see volume, etc., on screen.

really?

pg91:
The short message display does not appear in the following cases:
- when the component video signals with 480p/576p, 720p, 1080i or 1080p resolutions are input
- when HDMI video signals are input

pg92:
Set VIDEO CONV. to ON to display the sound field parameter display and short message display

looks like pg91's the tie breaker with respect to short messages on the rx-v1800, as i have short message on, video conv on, component i/p on, and no short messages appear out component video. though with these settings enabled the OSD displays over progressive/hdtv sources.

JS,

You figured it out as I was typing...

What I want to know is what's the picture from the AVR? Looks like part of some sort of musical instrument...can it be changed like a computer desktop walpaper?

dull....

I'm confused. What are you trying to say? Are you not getting OSD?

Kelly...

What are you talking about? What picture from the AVR?

To clarify toby10's comment...it should be "as long as you are not using the HDMI output on the receiver for video".

Using HDMI, you will still get an OSD, but it will not be overlaid over the video signal - the screen will black out first. Changes in volume will not be displayed.

This is standard operating procedure for most receivers out there with HDMI and OSDs, unless you want to spend several thousand dollars on a high-end receiver that can do it.

I want to use HDMI so that I can do hd audio and 1080p/24fps. I can do 1080p over component, not 24fps of course. Since I can't do 24fps, I wonder component from bluray to receiver, component to tv, hdmi out bluray to receiver for audio only. HD audio in place, 1080p and then OSD show up?