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post #8251 of 8628
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Originally Posted by mvision7m View Post

Yes, my TV converts 2D to 3D but I haven't used that feature at all since I've had the TV (about 2 months now).

Also, the ONLY blu-ray this happens with is Iron Man II. I've watched many other blu-rays and I never get the "a 3D signal has been detected" message with any other disc. That message pops up onscreen at the exact same point in Iron Man II each time I play it.

It's the scene that follows Ivan Vanko's breakout of prison where Tony Stark and Pepper Pots are in a jet. That's where the TV picks up the 3D signal and I can watch the rest of the movie in 1080p 3D while retaining DTS MASTER AUDIO playing through my AVR.

The message doesn't say "would you like to convert 2D to 3D", its actually getting a 3D signal and when I press the 3D button on my TVs remote it switches over to 1080p 3D.

To be sure it was actually a 1080p picture signal I pressed the 'info' button on my TVs remote and it showed the incoming video signal as 1080p. At the same time nothing changed at the receiver, it still showed DTS MSTR AUDIO in the window.

I have a PS3 connected to my Yamaha RX-V3800 AVR via HDMI and an HDMI going from the 3800 to the TV for video.

If you get the same thing I'm getting I wonder if its an "easter egg". I've never bothered checking any of my blu-ray discs for those 'secret' or 'hidden' features but it may be that Iron Man II has 3D built in as an easter egg. I don't know, I'm just throwing out a hypothesis.

I tested this, and I had a 2D signal the whole time. Watched all the way from beginning of the chapter where Tony meets Vanko to where Pepper and Black Widow are talking on the phone in his house. There was a 1080p/24 signal the whole time. No change in format.

You can also go into the menu on the amp, scroll down to Signal Info and check the Audio/Video info. For me Audio says PCM/48kHz, and for video it just says HDMI->HDMI so I'm not sure how helpful that is.

Also, here is how to check your firmware version. I would be interested in seeing if we're the same.
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Turn off the Amp by pressing the [MASTER] button to the OFF position.

Press and hold the [STRAIGHT] button behind the front lid and keep it pressed. Then, press [MASTER] button of the unit to the ON position. When ADVANCED SETUP appears on the front display of the receiver, release the [STRAIGHT] button.

Press and hold the [TUNING MODE] button on the front panel for about 3 seconds. Version number will appear on the front receiver panel.

You cycle through the table of version numbers can by pressing the [STRAIGHT] button.

Each time you press [STRAIGHT] your OSD should show:

Version/Sum
M: 0077 ID50

Version/Sum
V:0061 74B6

Version/Sum
D:05.13r4 0478

Version/Sum
N:1.0.2 D7050

M - General Section
V - Video Section
D - Audio Section
N - Network Section

Note that it took a minute for the Video checksum to be calculated.

I still suspect a bug in your HDMI chain or TV, and it engages 2D to 3D conversion. I say this because Iron Man 2 was not filmed in 3D, nor was it ever converted to 3D. So no "actual" 3D version of the movie even exists.

I tested another 3D Blu-ray (Pirates of the Caribbean) and I still get no audio once a 3D signal is detected.

-Pie
post #8252 of 8628
Thanks for everyone's help on the extended remote codes for the 1800. While Logitech sent an email that said they were working on it and I am a valued customer they never did add the commands. Doing it with the Yamaha remote in extended mode and learning them worked perfectly.
post #8253 of 8628
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

Thanks for everyone's help on the extended remote codes for the 1800. While Logitech sent an email that said they were working on it and I am a valued customer they never did add the commands. Doing it with the Yamaha remote in extended mode and learning them worked perfectly.

Glad they worked. Now you can add any additional commands from the spreadsheets. Yamaha has a great set of codes, but they are unfortunately underutilized.
post #8254 of 8628
I did add the Zone 2 and Zone 3 Mute commands as well as the radio tuner categories.

Have to still structure it all according to what I can do with the Harmony. I can do quite a bit. Getting Activities setup so if same source in all zones can use an activity. If different sources in zones have a device setup called Zone 2/Zone 3. Even with the Activities there is a certain amount of "manual" commands that have to be selected. End user does not want to turn on all zones automatically when turning on main zone activity. So have separate custom buttons for Zones on/off.

Its coming out pretty slick. The Harmony is quite flexible.

I've taught it two step commands before and will be trying tomorrow on the radio stuff. Devices don't have sequences. I need to teach Cat A, Preset1, for Zone 2/3 device mode. I've taught up to 3 step sequences in raw mode so it should be ok.
post #8255 of 8628
I've been using "Fat PS3" player as my BD player for last 3yrs. I was using PCM setting whenever I played BD. I just purchased Panasonic DMP-BDT310,which will be my primary player for BD.

I was really excited to see DTS MA or Dolby TrueHD light up for the first time on my RX-V1800 since I purchased it 3 yrs ago!
It seems like any BD with DTS-MA, it works fine, however on some BD with Dolby TrueHD, receiver displays "Dolby Digital" instead of Dolby TrueHD!
For example both Transformer 1 & 3, displays Dolby Digital. It seems like it's processed as D. TrueHD, but doesn't light up on my receiver.

My receiver was purchased on Oct. 2008 and so far it's been working great. I've never done Firmware Update and I don't want to do it unless it's absolutely necessary.

So my question is: Is this normal or perhaps my setting is wrong or will Firmware Update solve this issue?

BTW, I am using Paradigm speakers in 5.1 configuration.

Thanks in advance for suggestion and feedback.
post #8256 of 8628
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Originally Posted by AVMAN777 View Post

I've been using "Fat PS3" player as my BD player for last 3yrs. I was using PCM setting whenever I played BD. I just purchased Panasonic DMP-BDT310,which will be my primary player for BD.

I was really excited to see DTS MA or Dolby TrueHD light up for the first time on my RX-V1800 since I purchased it 3 yrs ago!
It seems like any BD with DTS-MA, it works fine, however on some BD with Dolby TrueHD, receiver displays "Dolby Digital" instead of Dolby TrueHD!
For example both Transformer 1 & 3, displays Dolby Digital. It seems like it's processed as D. TrueHD, but doesn't light up on my receiver.

My receiver was purchased on Oct. 2008 and so far it's been working great. I've never done Firmware Update and I don't want to do it unless it's absolutely necessary.

So my question is: Is this normal or perhaps my setting is wrong or will Firmware Update solve this issue?

BTW, I am using Paradigm speakers in 5.1 configuration.

Thanks in advance for suggestion and feedback.

I have a RX-V1900(warmed over 1800) and some of my Bluray movies that have Dolbly True HD does the same thing. Odd that some will work and the Dolby True HD displays. I was told (Yamaha Customer Service)to do a system re-set on the Yamaha(page 115 resetting the system) and update the firmware on my Bluray player and make sure BRP is on Audio Bitstreaming. I have not done either yet.. a system reset will erase the YPAO settings and I only have 4 Bluray movies(we have a large collection of BR movies) that are True HD rated and 2 work fine???? I will update my BRP tomorrow and test and if it still does it then I will reset the 1900 and test. I hope this helps.
post #8257 of 8628
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Originally Posted by AVMAN777 View Post

.... It seems like it's processed as D. TrueHD, but doesn't light up on my receiver......

Check the onscreen info when the movie is playing, that will tell you what the player is sending to your AVR in both codec and bitrate.
post #8258 of 8628
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Originally Posted by AVMAN777 View Post

I've been using "Fat PS3" player as my BD player for last 3yrs. I was using PCM setting whenever I played BD. I just purchased Panasonic DMP-BDT310,which will be my primary player for BD.

I was really excited to see DTS MA or Dolby TrueHD light up for the first time on my RX-V1800 since I purchased it 3 yrs ago!
It seems like any BD with DTS-MA, it works fine, however on some BD with Dolby TrueHD, receiver displays "Dolby Digital" instead of Dolby TrueHD!
For example both Transformer 1 & 3, displays Dolby Digital. It seems like it's processed as D. TrueHD, but doesn't light up on my receiver.

My receiver was purchased on Oct. 2008 and so far it's been working great. I've never done Firmware Update and I don't want to do it unless it's absolutely necessary.

So my question is: Is this normal or perhaps my setting is wrong or will Firmware Update solve this issue?

BTW, I am using Paradigm speakers in 5.1 configuration.

Thanks in advance for suggestion and feedback.

I'm sure you'vr probably done this already but just in case you haven't, some blu-ray discs start playing the standard Dolby Digital track by default. You actually have to go into 'set-up' in the disc's menu and manually select the 'TrueHD' soundtrack.

Again, I'm sure you've probably done that but figured I'd mention it anyway in case by chance you hadn't.
post #8259 of 8628
Yes, I always do "set up" to make sure I am getting the best possible sound before playing. And as I mentioned, onscreen info shows Dolby TrueHD, however doesn't say that on my receiver display.

It seems like on some title, it may have several tracks including English D. TrueHD and other language, however it doesn't have separate English standard D. Digital track. It seems like these titles are the ones with issues. I have some title with both English D. TrueHD and English D. Digital track: in this case it seems like receiver displays "Dolby TrueHD" correctly.

Any other opinions?
post #8260 of 8628
Hi,

Does anybody know if Yamaha's bluetooth wireless audio receiver YBA-10 is compatible with the RXV-3800? I downloaded the YBA-10's owner's manual from Yamaha's web site, where they say it connects to the DOCK terminal on the AV receiver. However, a note says "The YBA-10 is not compatible with all AV receivers or other components, even those equipped with DOCK terminals. For details, see the owner's manual of your DOCK terminal-equipped components".

My RXV-3800 owner's manual does not mention the YBA-10; I believe it was not yet available when the RXV-3800 hit the market. I couldn't find anything about this compatibility issue anywhere. Any idea, anyone?

tnx!
post #8261 of 8628
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Originally Posted by odedee View Post

Hi,

Does anybody know if Yamaha's bluetooth wireless audio receiver YBA-10 is compatible with the RXV-3800? I downloaded the YBA-10's owner's manual from Yamaha's web site, where they say it connects to the DOCK terminal on the AV receiver. However, a note says "The YBA-10 is not compatible with all AV receivers or other components, even those equipped with DOCK terminals. For details, see the owner's manual of your DOCK terminal-equipped components".

My RXV-3800 owner's manual does not mention the YBA-10; I believe it was not yet available when the RXV-3800 hit the market. I couldn't find anything about this compatibility issue anywhere. Any idea, anyone?

tnx!

It seems like this product has lots of mix reviews. Some say it works great and some say sound quality is average with compatibility issues. I am not sure on compatibility with RXV-3800, however I'd also make sure your primary bluetooth source is compatible with YBA-10 as well.
post #8262 of 8628
Just to let anybody with similar issues know:

I've had assorted and varied HDMI issues going from and thru my 3800 for a year or two. It's been driving me crazy going thru setups on my Panny TV and my DirecTV DVR and my PS3. Sometimes no signal, sometimes only 2 channel when it should be 5.1 or 7.1, sometimes turning off the TV changed the symptoms, etc. Optical and component hook ups worked fine.

I never had any of the problems addressed by the firmware updates so I never did them. I finally decided to update (via USB) and it solved ALL problems and it's like I have a new receiver. I asssume it's because the firmware update reset the entire AVR to factory settings and not anything to do with the firmware itself.

Now I have to run YPAO and redo all my settings (entailing re-education), but it's worth it. Even if I had backed everything up on my laptop, I think I"d be afraid to use it.

Bottom line is, I finally realized it is like any other computer. Sometimes it needs a reboot and to try a FW update or at least a factory reset to attempt to solve unexplained and otherwise unsolvable problems.

And thanks to all here who've helped over the years.
post #8263 of 8628
Does anyone know how to connect wireless sennheiser headphones to the Yama V1800 so that both headphones and speakers produce sound simultaneously?
post #8264 of 8628
Help please-

I have a Yamaha RXV-3800 that has worked well for several years. There are several HDMI inputs, component inputs, and speaker outputs. I upgraded the sw years ago because of the blu-ray "pop" noise problem. Otherwise good.

Today I was adding some rear speakers since we moved and all HDMI output quit. I put it on end to get to the speaker outputs, and put everything back. Audio was fine, but no TV signal.

To troubleshoot, I tried every input, a different HDMI output cable and different TV HDMI input- (HDMI2)- no dice. I then tried component output to the TV, which worked fine for PS/2 and Wii. Also, direct HDMI to the TV, bypassing the amp, from Blu-Ray / Xbox etc worked fine, so the TV is OK.

It seems that the RXV-3800's HDMI output has just quit. Is there a fuse? A way to reset? If I reset to factory settings in SW, will saving the setup be helpful (will it survive a reset?)

Thanks for the advice!

Ian
post #8265 of 8628
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Originally Posted by iandrysdale View Post

Help please-

It seems that the RXV-3800's HDMI output has just quit. Is there a fuse? A way to reset? If I reset to factory settings in SW, will saving the setup be helpful (will it survive a reset?)
Ian

I had similar issues. See two posts back. I can't help you with the question of whether or not backing up and reinstalling your settings is a good idea. I can tell you that the reset solved a myriad of HDMI issues for me and made my 3800 like new. I started from scratch with my settings; reading the manual again took longer.

Good luck.
Kelly
post #8266 of 8628
I have just got my RX-V3800 back from service, and it seems the remote control has been damaged during shipping. Some of the buttons no longer respond when pressed, worst of all I am unable to access the Set Menu screen. The remote from my older Yamaha DSP-AX3200 can be used for some functions such as adjusting volume, but not for the set menu.

As it will probably take some time getting it replaced, is there any way I can access the Set Menu in the meantime? I have no experience with programming remotes, but would it e.g. be possible to programme the older remote with the Set Menu function?
post #8267 of 8628
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Originally Posted by Duden View Post

I have just got my RX-V3800 back from service, and it seems the remote control has been damaged during shipping. Some of the buttons no longer respond when pressed, worst of all I am unable to access the Set Menu screen. The remote from my older Yamaha DSP-AX3200 can be used for some functions such as adjusting volume, but not for the set menu.

As it will probably take some time getting it replaced, is there any way I can access the Set Menu in the meantime? I have no experience with programming remotes, but would it e.g. be possible to programme the older remote with the Set Menu function?

I found a vendor on Ebay is the USA that sells nothing but remotes (used) for sale. Try looking for a used one as I found one for my RX-V2400 for $15.00 plus shipping last year.
post #8268 of 8628
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

I found a vendor on Ebay is the USA that sells nothing but remotes (used) for sale. Try looking for a used one as I found one for my RX-V2400 for $15.00 plus shipping last year.

Thanks, that idea hadn't occurred to me. Meanwhile I found a Yamaha IR library package online. For the RX-V3800 it lists these codes for the set menu function:

ID1 setting (default):

Custom code: 7A
Data code: 84

ID2 setting:

Custom code: 7D
Data code: C3

Are these values I can somehow programme my old IR remote to learn, and which should be used? If only I could open the set menu screen I guess I could use the arrows and enter buttons to do the rest until I get a new RX-V3800 remote.
post #8269 of 8628
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Originally Posted by Duden View Post

I have just got my RX-V3800 back from service, and it seems the remote control has been damaged during shipping. Some of the buttons no longer respond when pressed, worst of all I am unable to access the Set Menu screen.

Check the mode selector switch (small wheel on the right side of the remote). If it's not set to AMP it will behave as you described.
post #8270 of 8628
Just joined this foum today, I updated the firmware for my rx-v3900 today, using the usb port. Now my yamaha is just about DEAD.....all I can see on front pannel is the words Main On ....thats it!!! nothing works, so how can I fix this failed firmware update......1.18 was the version I was trying, going from 1.17 ....sure could use some help guys... Mike...
post #8271 of 8628
If you can still get to the firmware update screen, then I would try updating again (same version but download the file again, and maybe even use a different USB stick to make sure that's not the problem).

Otherwise you could try asking in the 3900 thread if anyone has had that happen to them.
post #8272 of 8628
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Check the mode selector switch (small wheel on the right side of the remote). If it's not set to AMP it will behave as you described.

Thanks, but I already did that. And, volume and some other buttons do not work either. One thing needs to be tried, though - maybe the rechargable batteries aren't powerful enough to run all functions, even though they are fully charged, and even though I did use them before having the unit serviced. Replacing them with disposable ones is the last remaining option I see before getting a new one.
post #8273 of 8628
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Originally Posted by Duden View Post

Thanks, but I already did that. And, volume and some other buttons do not work either. One thing needs to be tried, though - maybe the rechargable batteries aren't powerful enough to run all functions, even though they are fully charged, and even though I did use them before having the unit serviced. Replacing them with disposable ones is the last remaining option I see before getting a new one.

I have used a DC volt meter on my camera AA rechage batteries and they Never go to 1.5 volts(usually 1.3). Install two fresh alkaline AA and see if this helps.
post #8274 of 8628
It is possible your good remote was inadvertently switched for a bad one at the repair facility. I always mark mine to avoid such mix ups.
Loooong time ago that happened to me (not a Yamaha issue), they sent me back a remote that didn't even go with the device, wasn't even the same brand.
post #8275 of 8628
I bought a 3D projector. Will it work with the RX-V3800 by simply connecting the HDMI cable to it? Or, my 3D BD player has two HDMI outputs. I could hook one up to the RX-V3800 and the other directly to the projector. Which would work the best?
post #8276 of 8628
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Originally Posted by toby10 View Post

It is possible your good remote was inadvertently switched for a bad one at the repair facility. I always mark mine to avoid such mix ups.
Loooong time ago that happened to me (not a Yamaha issue), they sent me back a remote that didn't even go with the device, wasn't even the same brand.

That might be a possibility, but given that this model is not quite new it's probably not very likely. The guy who fixed it says he used their own multi brand remote, anyway. Using alkaline batteries made no difference, but I got an idea that might be worth trying out: with the considerable number of old remotes I have lying around, I guess there is a chance that one of them may have a button that transmits the Set Menu code for the Yamaha. Having remotes triggering a response in different pieces of equipment has happened more than once to me.

It's enough to drive you slightly mad when you think about it: all I want right now is one simple electromagnetic pulse that will open the gates, not to the mines of Moria, but just to the set up screen.
post #8277 of 8628
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Originally Posted by EZ-Rhino View Post

I bought a 3D projector. Will it work with the RX-V3800 by simply connecting the HDMI cable to it? Or, my 3D BD player has two HDMI outputs. I could hook one up to the RX-V3800 and the other directly to the projector. Which would work the best?

Try it both ways, see for yourself.
Though given the option to feed audio & video separately (video direct to TV/projector) I'd likely go that route myself, assuming no lip sync issues etc...
post #8278 of 8628
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Originally Posted by Duden View Post

That might be a possibility, but given that this model is not quite new it's probably not very likely. The guy who fixed it says he used their own multi brand remote, anyway. Using alkaline batteries made no difference, but I got an idea that might be worth trying out: with the considerable number of old remotes I have lying around, I guess there is a chance that one of them may have a button that transmits the Set Menu code for the Yamaha. Having remotes triggering a response in different pieces of equipment has happened more than once to me.

It's enough to drive you slightly mad when you think about it: all I want right now is one simple electromagnetic pulse that will open the gates, not to the mines of Moria, but just to the set up screen.

Did you search Ebay in the USA for that vendor that only sells used remotes? I purchased a yamaha RX-V2400 used remote from him several years ago.

EDIT

What is the part# on the remote?? I just looked and there is pages of Yamaha used remotes but they are listed by the Yamaha part#
I tried a RX-V3800 search but no luck but try looking for it by the part# or look in the manual some of the universal remotes (aftermarket) might work.
post #8279 of 8628
[quote=What is the part# on the remote?? I just looked and there is pages of Yamaha used remotes but they are listed by the Yamaha part#
I tried a RX-V3800 search but no luck but try looking for it by the part# or look in the manual some of the universal remotes (aftermarket) might work.[/QUOTE]

Mine has RAV 369 on it, and under that is WK 48070 US. Hope this helps!
post #8280 of 8628
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Originally Posted by jmmesch View Post

Mine has RAV 369 on it, and under that is WK 48070 US. Hope this helps!

Go to Ebay and type in item# 170686711026 this vendor has 2 new one's for sale. If $61.00 that he wants is too expensive go to the remote section and enter the RAV369 part# and keep looking for a used one. This is Ebay USA...different from Ebay in Europe. Hope this helps
Louis
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