The "Official" Yamaha RX-V1800/RX-V3800 Thread - Page 278

I am new to this. I have a RXV 3300 and want to know if I can hook up an HDTV antenna to receive FM reception.

You generally do not want to combine TV and FM reception. In fact, they sell FM "traps" for TV antennas to eliminate the negative effect of FM signals bleeding into TV signals. If for some reason you do want a TV + FM antenna then just read the antenna specs for mention of FM reception (if they even exist).

BTW: There is nothing special about an "HDTV" antenna. The TV antenna specs remain unchanged from the original TV antenna specs of the 1940's. Any TV antenna, no matter how old, will work fine with todays HDTV digital signals, as long as that antenna is designed for both UHF & VHF reception.

Anyone know if the Yamaha YDS-12 dock works with the 6190/1800 and the iPhone 4S?

Verizon Philips P144v2 remote not working with 3800

Trying to get tv sound through my 3800 using the Verizon remote to control the tv, dvr, and 3800. I can control the tv and dvr fine, but the 3800 will not turn on.

Using the provided codes for the remote, none will turn the 3800 on. Several will turn the 3800 off and work other controls, but none can power the 3800 on.

My mother cannot see the keys on my Harmony one so that is why I am trying to get the Philips remote to work. She is comfortable with using it, not the Harmony.

Any help/advice will be much appreciated.

Tks,

Steve

Edit: Remote is also identified as the Philips RC144 Phase 2.

I just got my first blu-ray player with audio bitstream support and remembered this bug. My 1800 lights up 7.1 for all DTS-HD MA 5.1 content.
I have 5.1 speaker setup.
I guess there is no workaround for this? Manufacturers site does not have any updates since the clipping fix we fought hard for.

I got the new player just yesterday I have tested it very little so far but I noticed nothing obviously wrong with the sounds. Was it so that besided the wrong info on the receivers front display it was actually working ok (decoding 5.1 outputting 5.1)? As far as I know receivers front display show incoming signal channels and not what it is actually outputting.

Yes, it's only a display problem. For processing it knows it's only getting 5.1 channels, so everything works fine in a 5.1 setup and if you have a 7.1 setup it can still use PLIIx to output as 7.1.

My 1800 is still going strong, and I'm not planning to change it yet. I have network control from an iPod Touch via a network to RS232 converter. Network streaming comes from other devices such as PS3, so I don't need it in the receiver. Maybe I'll eventually want to try more than 7.1 speakers and consider the RX-A2020 or 3020 when they come out in a few months, but I suspect I'll pass for at least another year.

Thanks for confirming this. I just before saw your reply, finished testing sounds and I could not find anything wrong, just this display "feature".


Same here. It has been working well and I have not plans changing it because it has all the features I need for now.

My trusty old PS3 died couple of days ago and I had to get a new player.
I was very happy with the PS3 picture because it is not modifying video output out of standards like many standalone players are. I wanted to try standalone player this time but it was very hard to find one that would be even close to PS3.

I finally got a Panasonic BDT110. It is quite nice but very flimsy and cheap feeling but seems to give unmodified output and even pass BTB and WTW. Using it really makes me miss PS3 even this is quite fast for standalone player. Anyway I likely may get another PS3 later or see if I can get my current one working again (it has that YLOD problem). Seems that PS3 is still king of the blu-ray players. Mine never refused to play any title or did not have any problems, until it suddenly just died.

My Grand Son wants a PS3 and my Samsung Bluray player is really getting loud when reading a disc and sometimes the fastfoward screws up and I have to re-set it. I use a Bluray player for music and movies all day (retired) and can't drive right now. I was looking at the Pannie you have and others just above it on Amazon.good price but Grand Son is 8 now and Wii is not COOl enough on the games for him, he has one at home now so I have keep up which PS3 for the best movies and games as I see so many different one's with more memory(I guess).

My 3800 seems to have this DTS-HDMA issue since all 5.1 channel media displays as 7.1. On the other hand, TrueHD shows both 5.1 and 7.1, accurately.

There are several versions of PS3's with different size hard drives. For using it just as blu-ray and DVD-player the smaller one is more than enough but for games and storage use larger hdd will be handy eventually. What make the PS3 so excellent in my opinion is that it is developed all the time and added more functions. If I would have bought standalone blu-ray player at the time I got my first PS3 I would have needed to upgrade several players already and it would have cost me much more. Standalone players nearly never get additional feature updates, you simply have to buy a new model. Their life span is usually one year and then new model comes out but PS3 has been sold for years and will be for years to come.

It is shame that Yamaha never announced a firmware fix to correct this. I don't think it would have take much effort to do it as it seems to be only a display issue. It seems to work just fine with DTS HD master audio 5.1 just like kriktsemaj99 confimed. I also checked info screens in receivers menu and it shows there 5.1 when receiving 5.1.

So I need to look for a newer model PS3 that has been updated or was this a software update you are talking about? My Samsung BRP is 4 years old and it is just now starting to screw up, it is wireless so I have upgraded the firmware several times over the years. How can I tell which PS3 are the newer models? I looked on Ebay and there was a LOT of them for sale.PM me ... Sorry for the thread jack.
Thanks
Louis

The HD audio formats were new when the 1800/3800 were introduced, and I don't think they got much testing. There are also a couple of bugs with RS232 commands that query info about the current audio track. Some of the new formats just return wrong values.

Yamaha's philosphy seems to be only fix important bugs once a product is released. At least that tends to avoid introducing new bugs as you fix old ones, but I'd rather see a few more firmware versions through the life of a product.

Personally I'd buy a new one if my current one broke (rather than look on eBay). If you don't want bundled games the basic model is: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+P...&skuId=3061302

It's smaller and uses less power than the original, and also can bitstream HD audio. It doesn't play SACD discs though, if that's an issue for you.

I meant mainly software updates that have brought new features. With standalone players you hardly newer get such updates. Newer slim PS3 models also have improved hardware to allow bitstream HD audio. Oldest fat units had more gimmicks like memory card reader etc... Anyway pretty much all improvements have been software updates for all units.


Just like krikts said it would be better to get newer slim unit. Old fat ones like mine consume much more power and run hotter. Mine developed that YLOD problem which I understood is more common with fat units.

Newer and older units look different so it is easy to tell which is which.
Slim units have matte black casing and logo on the top of the unit says PS3. Old units have shiny black casing and logo says Playstation 3. There are other colors available too but those are most common ones.

Take a look at this you see photos of different versions and list of their specifications. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3

Good point. As this is only diplay issue it does not cause any problems with sound. What is the most important thing with this receiver is that Yamaha fixed HDMI clipping issue which was excellent thing.

Thanks for the link.........explained it ALL. Time to move the kids Wii to the bedroom. Looking at 320Gb model and see how much BB2 year service policy is today. I purchased my Yamaha HD AVR from them and added the extra two warranty, same with my 55" TV. I watch a LOT of DVD movies on my Bluray player now (retired) and turned off expensive Verizon FIOS HD TV.... Redbox and Netflix fill in just fine.

I'm trying to figure out what conversions 1080p HDMI video signal go thru if any. This receiver only scale and deinterlace analog inputs so in theory HDMI to HDMI should not be touched but as we remember it originally did clip out BTB and WTW which they fixed later.

I checked video block diagrams in the SM and if I understood it correctly it looks like HDMI video in to out goes like this: Equalizer > SIL9135 HDMI receiver > SIL9134 HDMI transmitter. To me it looks like HDMI video does not go thru deinterlacer or scaler. Did I get this right?

What I'm exactly trying to figure out is that if HDMI signal in is 1080p YCbCr 4:4:4, does color information go thru any conversions or does it stay 4:4:4 all the time?


I see that SIL9135 HDMI receiver contains RGB to YCbCr converter and 4:2:2 to 4:4:4 converter while SIL9134 HDMI transmitter contains YCbCr to RGB converter and 4:2:2 to 4:4:4 converter. Does this mean that if RGB signal is input it goes thru RGB>YCbCr>RGB conversion? And does YCbCr 4:2:2 always get converted to 4:4:4. Or simply no conversions at all?

If anything goes thru ABT deinterlaced, it seems its input for YCbCr is only 4:2:2 while it can output 4:4:4 but if I understood correctly this path is only for analog video signals?

Hi there,

Was just reading this old post and was wondering if the Yba-10 is compatible with the RX-V3800 ??

I'm sad to report that my beloved 3800 has died. I turned it on the other day, and about 2 minutes later it shut itself off. It wasn't hot; I didn't see or smell anything unusual, so I don't think there was an overheating issue. I disconnected all cables, removed it from the audio cabinet and set it on a table. I then tried powering it on again and this time It powered on but then shut off about 1 second later, which I assume means it's going into protection mode. So, is there anything like a service menu or something that I can get into that will allow me to get a fault code? If so, what is the button press sequence? Thanks.

Hmmm... maybe I should take a step back.

Can anybody tell me what might have caused my 3800 to turn on then turn itself back off? It happens with or without anything connected to it. Any help would be appreciated because I'd like to have a better idea what's going on with it before taking it in for potentially costly repairs.

I have a different issue with my rx-v2700. The hdmi board has gone on the fritz. Is it possible to buy replacement boards directly? I suspect that approach will be cheaper than a service center. I'm comfortable getting inside electronics, so I'm not concerned about the safety issue.

"Hmmm... maybe I should take a step back.

Can anybody tell me what might have caused my 3800 to turn on then turn itself back off? It happens with or without anything connected to it. Any help would be appreciated because I'd like to have a better idea what's going on with it before taking it in for potentially costly repairs."

Have you tried a different wall socket or power bar, maybe it's your power sourse...?

Yes. When It was out of my audio cabinet I put it in a different room so I could open it up and have a better look around. Plugging it into a different outlet made no difference. However, last night I was messing around the the RMS program while connected to it from an old WinXP laptop, and low and behold it came back to life. I'm going to plug it back into my system tomorrow and hope it works. At this time I can only diagnose it as a "computer glitch".

Service Manuals

I think most of the old links to the service manuals are now broken, so I uploaded them again:

RX-V1800 Service Manual
RX-V3800 Service Manual

Also the modified firmware for the 1800 (with the latest Yamaha fixes plus the larger volume display) is here:

RX-V1800 firmware with larger volume display

Thanks, I gave my 1800 to my Daughter and she lost the manual and asked how to run the YPAO... they moved and have it in a different room. I have the 1900 and there use to be a 1900/3900 thread like the 1800/3800
I did a search and nothing??? I know I am getting old but .......

The regular manuals are all available for download from Yamaha's website (under Support for the particular model). On the US site you have to register to download manuals, but in many other countries you don't need to (and the manual is basically the same). e.g. yamaha.ca doesn't ask you to register.

Thanks, I was also looking for the 1900/3900 thread that use be here like the 1800 is. So far my 1900 has been a plug and play and I just looked on the Yamaha site and No firmware

update for the 1900....... a good thig.......... I hope.

Many thanks for the 3800 service manual link kriktsemaj99. I'm betting it will come in handy.

1900/3900 thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1058341/official-rx-v1900-rx-v3900-thread