Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99
The 3800 only has a single crossover, and the 3900 has one per speaker group (i.e. separate crossovers for centre, fronts, surrounds, surround backs). In the newer models, you'll need the RX-A20x0 or 30x0 to get multiple crossovers.
I'm still using an RX-V1800, but if I were buying today I'd want the A2020 or A3020 (more HDMI inputs, 3D, network control, more than 7.1 channels etc.). Although the fact that Yamaha doesn't support any standards for the extra channels (no Dolby PLIIz or DTS Neo:X) would make me consider other brands.
maybe the w/ the YAMAHA YPAO A/V Receiver Calibration Setup Microphone (I don't have the mic been manueley setting up) there is no need for a second crossover?
? do all Yamaha AVRs share the exact same YAMAHA YPAO A/V Receiver Calibration Setup Microphone?
I usalley listen to the radio w/ the TV off, the 3800 w/ it's USB port (using Flash drives) will the display on the 3800 display the titles and can I select title and track directly from the display on the 3800? or must the TV be turned on and the GUI be used to select?
edit my 465 creates some heat not hot but warm, I have the 465 inside an inclosure usalley open the glass door (I don't like dust around AV componets) when it's in use doe's you'r 1800 create heat?
I'm actualley concidering a 80mm computer fan on top of the inclosure that houses the AVR.
Originally Posted by mtrot
FWIW, in 2011, I replaced my RX-V1800(which I believe has the same amp section as the 3800) in my family room system with an Onkyo TX-NR809. I was looking to get into a network receiver, and at that time, and at the price, there was just no competition for the 809. I also wondered if the newer and more advanced DACs on the 809 would make an audible difference. I think the 809 has DACs for every channel, which the 1800 did not.
I never had any trouble at all with the 1800, which is now powering my bedroom system, but I always felt the sound could be better, in terms of clarity and dynamics. I was not prepared for how much better the 809 sounds, both for home theater and music. The best way I can describe it is that there is more of a sense of "immediacy" and clarity to the sound. Dialog in movies is more intelligible, and it also seems to be superior in delineation of effects. I just think the Onkyo has both a better pre-amp and power amp section. If you are not going to be using a separate power amp, I think you should strongly consider the Onkyo. Also, the Onkyo does have separate crossover points for all channels.
But, I have not tried the newer Yamaha Avantage models, so they may be fully on par with current Onkyo models. BTW, if you do want give an Onkyo a try, the current Amazon price on the TX-NR818 is awesome.
you'r new Onkyo is a giant bet it sounds good. however it's way more amp than I need.
I don't forsee a need for more than 3 HDMI ports, THX is nice however my sys. will remain a 5.1
I've been reading up on Yamaha AVRs what doe's Yamaha refer to the RCA sub. woofer output?
edit I've recently upgraded my front speakers from Polk audio M30s and CS1 CC to def. tech studio montiors and a Center channel the Polks are OK for a buget speaker however the DTs are awesome. w/ my infinate wisdom I'm thinking my little 465 is'nt doing the DTs justice.hence the upgradeidust begines on a scale of 1-10 just how much better will my audio be if any w/ a much better amp?
STBEdited by stevethebrain - 12/16/12 at 6:45am