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post #8431 of 8633
Also I think I might have to just re-program the remote. Can someone walk me through that? I'm not sure where the manual is at the moment so If anyone can walk me through how to do that please post ASAP
post #8432 of 8633
There's nothing to program for controlling the receiver (only for controlling other devices).
If the wheel on the side is set to AMP, and the small macro switch at the bottom is OFF, it should control the receiver (ON/OFF, volume UP/DOWN etc.). Of it won't do that with fresh batteries, try unplugging the receiver from the wall for a few minutes in case the probem is on that end.
post #8433 of 8633
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

There's nothing to program for controlling the receiver (only for controlling other devices).
If the wheel on the side is set to AMP, and the small macro switch at the bottom is OFF, it should control the receiver (ON/OFF, volume UP/DOWN etc.). Of it won't do that with fresh batteries, try unplugging the receiver from the wall for a few minutes in case the probem is on that end.

Last night I tried holding down the Learn button with a pen. Would that have done damage to the remote?

Yeah I unplugged the receiver nothing. Just to make sure I will buy more batteries. The ones I had I think are brand new but I'll try that. Also the lights on the remote comes on but it doesn't connect with the receiver
post #8434 of 8633
I don't think pressing learn would do any damage, but it might be stuck in a strange mode. Removing the batteries should reset the remote, and that might help. If you used the batteries that came with the remote, they are not very good quality and won't last long. So it's definitely worth trying new ones.
post #8435 of 8633
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

I don't think pressing learn would do any damage, but it might be stuck in a strange mode. Removing the batteries should reset the remote, and that might help. If you used the batteries that came with the remote, they are not very good quality and won't last long. So it's definitely worth trying new ones.

I tried taking the batteries out and that didn't work. My dad will be getting new batteries this afternoon

Also I've had this remote for 4 years. Is it possible it's just gave out and I need to replace it?
post #8436 of 8633
It might be broken, but you have to try new batteries anyway (or just check the voltage of the current ones to see if they are OK).
post #8437 of 8633
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

It might be broken, but you have to try new batteries anyway (or just check the voltage of the current ones to see if they are OK).

I don't think the voltage is the problem. I've used this brand of batteries in it before without a problem. If the new batteries don't work I'm going to guess the remote died

Thanks for your help
post #8438 of 8633
I use a Harmony to control the receiver. The original remote works if I need it. I tend not to. You might consider getting a Harmony.
post #8439 of 8633
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Originally Posted by jmmesch View Post

I use a Harmony to control the receiver. The original remote works if I need it. I tend not to. You might consider getting a Harmony.

Could you give a me link to info of the Harmony remote.

Also think I'll just another Yamaha remote since I know how to use that and my dad will be reassured it works fine. Even though I know this Harmony remote might work, he'll probably want the Yamaha remote. I found a couple websites that have them. Also the new batteries aren't working for it. We did have a 5 year warranty on the reciever at American Appliance but they want us to bring the receiver to them to make sure they give us the correct remote which in my opinion is bull crap. Plus the nearest American is 3 hours away. It would be cheaper probably just to get another remote on a website.

EDIT. American is allowing us to mail the remote to them at their repair center in Wisconsin and once they receive it they will mail us a new one
Edited by disneyboy20022 - 2/6/13 at 5:01pm
post #8440 of 8633
The Harmony One replaced the one I have. Do a Google search.

The point with a Harmony is their computer database, they can control just about any product, even a Yamaha AVR, plus all my equipment. That's a Pio LD unit, a PIo DVD Carousel, the Yahama and my Pio Elite Pro-151FD,.
post #8441 of 8633
I just ran the 2009 firmware update on my receiver, which wiped out all of my settings. I ran the YPAO and change the advanced settings appropriately (I have Monitor Audio speakers so I run the 6ohm option and have bi-amping). First pass at the sound setting completely ignored my sub. I changed the settings on the sub and ran again, and this time it recognized the sub. Now when I watch a DVD or Blu Ray the audio is great like before. However, when I play music through My First Generation Apple TV, I have to crank up the volume to twice what I used before the firmware update, and far more than when I am watching a movie. I understand that with DVS/BluRay I am running 5.1, but the discrepancy is pronounced. Any ideas why I am seeing this problem in music only?

Also, what about the speaker size setting? I hear if you have a sub, then "Small" is preferred.

Monitor Audio Siver Series RX-6, RX Center, RXW12 Sub, and ceiling mounted C180s in the rear.
post #8442 of 8633
Yes, if running a sat/sub system speakers should be set to Small with appropriate x-over set on the AVR.

Is your AppleTV volume turned up?
More speakers doesn't mean more (higher) volume. If you were to engage 7ch Stereo then switch to 2ch Stereo you should not notice any volume difference coming from the speakers themselves.
post #8443 of 8633
The click tone from the Apple TV is actually very loud in comparison to the volume of the actual music. That is why I raised the question. I understand your statement about 2 versus the 5.1 speakers. My purpose was to note that the volume was distinctly different from source to source, irrespective of the speaker configuration for that source. The volume from the AppleTV source pre-firmware update is also very different from the same source post-update with no changes to the source itself.
post #8444 of 8633
If you reload the old firmware (assuming you know what version you had) it would confirm whether there really was a change. If it behaves like the new firmware then it's presumably a setting that you didn't restore after the update (e.g. the volume trim on a particular input?).

Also, can you define "twice the volume you used before"? How many more dB (what are the numeric values before and after)?
post #8445 of 8633
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

.... a setting that you didn't restore after the update (e.g. the volume trim on a particular input?).

That would be my guess. Perhaps that setting was not saved? Or wasn't restored?
post #8446 of 8633
Mystery solved. The volume limiter setting on the Apple TV was turned on. I had connected a new (gen 3) Apple TV temporarily on my set-up to evaluate the differences between the gen 1 and gen 3 ATV capabilities. I went under the false assumption that the remotes were paired to each device, but the gen 3 remote was also doing all sorts of interesting things on the gen 1 ATV whilst I did my gen 3 test drive, including ordering some music from iTunes that was not within my listening tastes. Apparently my mistake also set some parameters such as the volume limiter which I am still discovering. When you assume...

Anyway, my 3800 and Apple TV is back in business and working as before. Thank you for your help.
post #8447 of 8633
My 3800 was repaired over 2.5 years ago and still runs great. Anyone want to guess the expected failure rate on the these units?
post #8448 of 8633
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Originally Posted by jmmesch View Post

My 3800 was repaired over 2.5 years ago and still runs great. Anyone want to guess the expected failure rate on the these units?

I have the 1800 bought new when first released and never had to have it repaired :knocksonwood:
post #8449 of 8633
Had my 3800 for five years and two household moves. Hasn't skipped a beat. Sometimes, just to have an excuse to buy new, I've even wished it would.
post #8450 of 8633
Hi Disneyboy,
i am experiencing the exact problem you described. All of a sudden my Yamaha remote just stopped controlling the receiver. It controls everything else (BD/HDVD, DTV, etc) but just wont control the receiver even after switching receiver on/off.
If/How did you fix your problem?
Many thanks,
post #8451 of 8633
Is there anyway of clearing the memory configurations without doing a reset on the RXV-1800?
post #8452 of 8633
You mean the Memory sets 1-6? Sure, just open a Memory set you DO want to keep then save that to all of the Memory set #'s you don't want. i.e. you are simply overwriting the sets.
But why? Just don't use the Memery sets you don't want/need/use. No?
post #8453 of 8633
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Originally Posted by toby10 View Post

You mean the Memory sets 1-6? Sure, just open a Memory set you DO want to keep then save that to all of the Memory set #'s you don't want. i.e. you are simply overwriting the sets.
But why? Just don't use the Memery sets you don't want/need/use. No?

There is only memory I want to clear out as I'll nevr use that setting. Thanks for the trick. That would work just great.
post #8454 of 8633
I tried as you suggested but I could never get it to store in memory 1 so I reset the receiver to factory defaults. Its not a big deal. I just need to reset my speaker sizes, ensure all the adaptive settings are turned off, ensure extended surround is set to auto and run YPAO for each of the EQ curves. I should be all done in 30 minutes.
post #8455 of 8633
To store you just hold down the appropriate system memory button on the remote (for about 4 seconds) until the front panel message shows that it's saved. But as Toby said, what does it matter whether you clear the values or not, just don't use that memory if there's nothing useful in it. Even after a reset there may be something stored in that memory slot. And it's not as if you're saving memory that can be used by something else, it's a dedicated memory only used for that purpose.
post #8456 of 8633
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

To store you just hold down the appropriate system memory button on the remote (for about 4 seconds) until the front panel message shows that it's saved. But as Toby said, what does it matter whether you clear the values or not, just don't use that memory if there's nothing useful in it. Even after a reset there may be something stored in that memory slot. And it's not as if you're saving memory that can be used by something else, it's a dedicated memory only used for that purpose.

I'm just being anal. I don't like things configured in memory that I'll never use. I did the system reset which did clear out all memory presets. I configured everything back up again..only took me 30 minutes and I'm back in business. Thanks for responding.. Have you had a chance to play with the new RXA series?
post #8457 of 8633
I just realized you could clear the system memories with Receiver Manager, by saving the current settings, editing the file manually, then restoring it. Of course, RM is a bit buggy and sometimes refuses to save the file properly, so it might not have worked for you.

As for the A series, they look pretty good but I'm happy enough with my 1800 at the moment. If you were to upgrade, I think you need at least the 2020. The 1020 would be a downgrade in some respects (only one DSP, no sub EQ, to name a couple of things).

The problem is that when I do eventually upgrade I think I'll want to experiment with more speakers (9.1 or 11.1) and new standards such as Dolby PLIIz and DTS Neo:X. If Yamaha don't get on board and license these new technologies I may have to jump ship (possibly for Denon).
post #8458 of 8633
I'm hoping someone can help me with a problem I have encountered. I recently purchased a used Yamaha RX-V3800 and when I received it, it appeared everything was in the box. Last night I was trying to setup my home theater and noticed that the surround sound speakers weren't working. By changing the speaker outputs on the back I determined it was not due to a speaker wire issue. When I looked at trouble shooting in the owners manual it indicated I needed to go to the amp set menu. It was then I realized that the remote control that was included was the RAV352 and not the RAV369 that it comes with. I'm thinking under that menu it would allow me to turn the surround sound speakers on and be able to turn the sub volume up. Does this sound right? Does anyone know of a way either through the front of the unit or using the RAV352 that would allow me to access that menu? I'm kind of stuck and short on time before I have someone come calibrate my system and I can't even find a website that will rush deliver a new remote.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
post #8459 of 8633
I would expect that remote to work most of the features of the 3800. First make sure the selector wheel (on the right edge of the remote) is set to AMP when you want to control the 3800. Then press menu and see if the front panel display changes. You can manage with just the front panel display if you don't have a TV connected, but it's easier with a TV.

In Manual Setup, find Speaker Set and make sure it knows you have surround speakers connected.

Also make sure the surround speakers are connected to the surround outputs (not surround back) for a 5.1 setup.
post #8460 of 8633
Thanks for the response. After playing with it for a bit I was able to get the menu up on the screen and got the surrounds working. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get the sub volume higher. I tried messing with the settings on manual setup but with little success. I'm pretty new to this so I'm sure it's user error. Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks
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