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post #13591 of 15255
It IS the XL-5200. The entire A-series line uses the same bulb. This basically translated into slightly less light output as you went up in size, but my 60" WAS still plenty bright.
post #13592 of 15255
The truth prevails l wien 123... smoking out competition.

I didn't have the manual off hand, just downloaded the pdf from sony and googled the keyword XL5200, but the information kind of varied and a few people said it wouldn't work like the youtube comment. Anyway, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP EVERYONE. I was actually using the TV as a PC monitor, which apparently wasn't such a good idea eh? Now I'm going blind with a CRT 1024x768...

Too bad someone didn't invent a uber lamp that would use the same connection and last 10x as long for these TVs. Guess I'm stuck buying old technology waaay past its hayday... There is just no way to win with big TV purchases.
post #13593 of 15255
My co-worker with the broken 50A3000 had 5090 hours on it. He replaced the bulb twice thinking that was his problem, but obviously it wasn't. I'll be taking his bulb before it hits the scrap pile...

He was offered and paid for a 52xbr9 at $500 but sony reneged saying they weren't available. Seemed fishy over the weekend but i see sony has taken the tv off the website as of today.

Instead they offered a 55" TV of which he is not sure of the model (wrote it down at home). I'm guessing its the EX500 as its the only 55 listed on their website.
post #13594 of 15255
I can't believe this. I had my OB replace a couple of weeks ago. I checked it on the day it was replaced using a gray pattern on the AVS HD 709 disc. It was great. No green tint.

Now, on the bottom left side, there is a green blob slowly forming. I can see it if I am watching tv or a movie with dark scenes it in. Its not enough to be distracted, but now I am going to keep an eye on it to see if its get larger over time. I really like this tv because of the great picture quality.
post #13595 of 15255
My 3000 went bye-bye today with the BB guys. Decided not to ***k around w/ sony anymore.
I have a bulb w/ housing that has about 20 hours on it. If your interested, pm me, make an offer.
post #13596 of 15255
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Originally Posted by PSUENGR View Post

My co-worker with the broken 50A3000 had 5090 hours on it. He replaced the bulb twice thinking that was his problem, but obviously it wasn't. I'll be taking his bulb before it hits the scrap pile...

He was offered and paid for a 52xbr9 at $500 but sony reneged saying they weren't available. Seemed fishy over the weekend but i see sony has taken the tv off the website as of today.

Instead they offered a 55" TV of which he is not sure of the model (wrote it down at home). I'm guessing its the EX500 as its the only 55 listed on their website.

Was the 55" offered at no additional cost? Just curious because it sounds like everyone gets a different deal on these things.
post #13597 of 15255
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Was the 55" offered at no additional cost? Just curious because it sounds like everyone gets a different deal on these things.

Yes, same price as the 52xbr9. I was also able to confirm its a 55EX500. I didn't get into specifics with him as he really wasn't eager to discuss what he was paying for stuff. I told him that others were getting the 52xbr9 for $550 and he said that was right and that they offered the 55" at the same price since they couldn't produce the xbr anymore. Otherwise he could have gotten the 52VE5 for "a lot less".

He's satisfied with the deal assuming he actually gets the TV. He's been dealing with the problem for months now and has been going back and forth with sony for over a month so he is eager to get this over with. In his situation he is probably getting an ok deal...he is upgrading his broken 50" TV to a working 55" for $550. Even if he were to sue sony and get his pro-rated money back the EX500 would still cost him over $550....although he probably wouldn't buy another Sony but that is another issue.
post #13598 of 15255
a good set
post #13599 of 15255
I took a couple of pictures of my 2nd OB replacement. One on pure white and the other on gray. I had this repaired about a week or so ago. I noticed there is now a purplish(?) tint on the top. And now a green tints on other parts of the screen. Does this mean my 2nd OB is failing?
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post #13600 of 15255
Yes.
post #13601 of 15255
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Originally Posted by fpconvert View Post

Yes.

Oh, well. Time to call Sony again and see what they say.
post #13602 of 15255
Does anyone know if you can do any maintenance to keep these from failing?

Also, have any of you compared the PQ on the 60" A3000 to one of the new Panasonic 65" plasma TVs?
post #13603 of 15255
I had been noticing over the last few weeks that sometimes the picture seems brighter sometimes than others... thought maybe it was just in my head.
Then, last night I was watching TV and the picture just dimmed down. Kind of like if you go from cool temp. to warm.

Any ideas of what's going on?
post #13604 of 15255
My $100 ebay osram bulb just popped earlier tonight (2 weeks after the warranty expired!!!). Somewhere between 4k and 5k hrs. 90% of the time it had power saving on.

My old phillips went to 5.5k with power saving off, although it spent about 4k hours as a floor model.

Time to order a new one, think I'll try phillips again.
post #13605 of 15255
Interesting. My original bulb just blew out early this morning (8500 hours on it, have had it since the week these tv's were released).
Now, I've had the new bulb (sent by Best Buy under the extended warranty - Philips box) in for a few hours and I'm getting a flickering in the picture...
I turned motion naturalizer off and it is still flickering...I read earlier someone else had flickering when they put a new bulb in...what's going on here?

-edit- I changed the Advanced Iris setting, also turned picture and brightness down a little ways and the flickering may have stopped... (Picture to 70, Brightness to 45, and Iris to Auto 2)
post #13606 of 15255
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Originally Posted by HuskerTornado View Post

Interesting. My original bulb just blew out early this morning (8500 hours on it, have had it since the week these tv's were released).
Now, I've had the new bulb (sent by Best Buy under the extended warranty - Philips box) in for a few hours and I'm getting a flickering in the picture...
I turned motion naturalizer off and it is still flickering...I read earlier someone else had flickering when they put a new bulb in...what's going on here?

-edit- I changed the Advanced Iris setting, also turned picture and brightness down a little ways and the flickering may have stopped... (Picture to 70, Brightness to 45, and Iris to Auto 2)

Happened to me as well. No matter what I did the flickering would come back. When I put the original bulb back in the flickering went away and hasn't come back yet. I am returning the bulb for a replacement. Hopefully that one won't do the same thing...
post #13607 of 15255
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Originally Posted by parallax1 View Post

Happened to me as well. No matter what I did the flickering would come back. When I put the original bulb back in the flickering went away and hasn't come back yet. I am returning the bulb for a replacement. Hopefully that one won't do the same thing...

Fortunately, this bulb hasn't flickered since I changed some of those settings. I've got a 6 month warranty on the bulb (got it just days before the old bulb finally blew), so it has plenty of time to show the flicker again. Hopefully, though, it was some weird "breaking-in" thing...

One thing I will say though is "wow". Change out the bulb and it's like a brand new TV. I knew the old bulb had dimmed a ways on me, but I could barely look at the TV to turn the brightness down at first it was so bright.

-edit- must have jinxed it...it's flickering again...
post #13608 of 15255
If it helps, I've noticed that toggling the power save mode can also sometimes make the flickering go away (at least for a little while). Setting the fan on high also seems to make it less prone to flickering. I haven't found anything that makes it go away completely though.

I have a repair person coming next week; I'll share any fixes if he finds one....
post #13609 of 15255
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Originally Posted by jeffs2 View Post

If it helps, I've noticed that toggling the power save mode can also sometimes make the flickering go away (at least for a little while). Setting the fan on high also seems to make it less prone to flickering. I haven't found anything that makes it go away completely though.

I have a repair person coming next week; I'll share any fixes if he finds one....

I'd appreciate that. It's a weird thing, it doesn't happen all the time, for instance, it hasn't done it all yet today.

I have the power save "on", which I've never used before (wanted to see if it made a difference vs. the 8500+ I got without using it on the first bulb). Maybe I'll turn that back "off".
post #13610 of 15255
Yup, same with me. Some days not at all; some times constantly. Sometimes after it starts after it warms up, and sometimes it will go away after it warms up. I have to say, I'm not convinced its the bulb...I'm wondering if its actually the iris causing the flickering. I've noticed that the flickering is more pronounced the darker the scene (which makes me think the flickering is the picture getting incorrectly brighter)
post #13611 of 15255
I called Sony this afternoon. I explained to the person on the phone that the OB that was replaced recently is starting to fail again. I was put on hold for a while so they could work out something. I guess they are going to replace the OB again.

Anyone know how much it cost Sony to replace each OB?
post #13612 of 15255
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Originally Posted by iSean View Post

I called Sony this afternoon. I explained to the person on the phone that the OB that was replaced recently is starting to fail again. I was put on hold for a while so they could work out something. I guess they are going to replace the OB again.

Anyone know how much it cost Sony to replace each OB?

Local labor costs may average about $200-$300. They charge about $980 for an A3000 optical block, but there is probably a 100% mark-up from their cost, and it would only cost a fraction of that to provide a rebuilt optical block. So, a very rough estimate would be $500-$800.
post #13613 of 15255
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Originally Posted by splinke View Post

Local labor costs may average about $200-$300. They charge about $980 for an A3000 optical block, but there is probably a 100% mark-up from their cost, and it would only cost a fraction of that to provide a rebuilt optical block. So, a very rough estimate would be $500-$800.

That's pretty expensive for a part that doesn't last long.
post #13614 of 15255
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Originally Posted by iSean View Post

That's pretty expensive for a part that doesn't last long.

Yup. And expensive for Sony to keep replacing. Someone here has said that he has gone thru 8 OB's. Makes no sense for Sony to do that.
post #13615 of 15255
If my engine block ever goes bad, I will probably just push for a replacement LCD right off the bat as I have little faith in replacement blocks. I would most likely just sell the new LCD and use that money toward a display I would really want.
post #13616 of 15255
I'm having the same issue with flickering after a bulb replacement. Its exactly how you guys describe, intermittent and freaking me out. I only notice it when stuff is paused, it looks like MN is on. Has to be a bulb issue because I never noticed it before.
post #13617 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Balthazar2k4 View Post

It IS the XL-5200. The entire A-series line uses the same bulb. This basically translated into slightly less light output as you went up in size, but my 60" WAS still plenty bright.

Sure, "slightly less" but still MORE than enough. Sony was even using this bulb in their 70" -- which was to go on sale in January 2008. However, December 2007 they announced they were pulling out of the rear projection business due to market conditions. So, there's some 70" SRXDs somewhere in warehouses....



Here's the owner manual for the 70" KDSZ70XBR5. On page 12, it says it uses the XL-5200 bulb.
post #13618 of 15255
My last bulb was plenty bright through about 3k hrs. The first 1.5k hrs it was actually way too bright so I had power saving on and iris usually at low or min. After 3k hrs I found myself turning power saving off then bumping up the iris at around 4k hrs. I could see how the 70" would use the bulb just fine but it would get dimmer probably about 15% quicker than the 60".
post #13619 of 15255
For the people seeing the flickering, where did you get your bulb from? I've been assuming its not really a bulb issue b/c for me it started before the bulb replacement (and continued through two new bulbs)...but maybe that is due to the original breaking down, and we've got a batch of bad new bulbs out there.
post #13620 of 15255
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Originally Posted by jeffs2 View Post

For the people seeing the flickering, where did you get your bulb from? I've been assuming its not really a bulb issue b/c for me it started before the bulb replacement (and continued through two new bulbs)...but maybe that is due to the original breaking down, and we've got a batch of bad new bulbs out there.

I bought mine at Electrified.com. Probably the same ones that they are selling elsewhere and on ebay. I still have my original bulb in (while waiting for replacement) and it hasn't flickered at all.
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