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post #15211 of 15255
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Originally Posted by cmhinnen View Post

Yes, I have that turned off currently.  I don't think it is really the bulb flickering.  It's the picture when there is a lot of fast motion on the screen.  Watching a normal program it's fine.  When watching sports it flickers as the players and action jump around.  You can also notice it in an HD movie when the cameria is panning.  It will skip.

what is your Iris setting on?
post #15212 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Valnar View Post

I'd still consider one if I were you. Remember how we all thought the KDS-A3000 was the pinnacle of SXRD RPTV achievement? Yeah, same with the Panasonic plasmas. I love both my TV's now, but the Panasonic ST60 is clearly superior.

Would like to get one but I don't have the space, for another 60+ inch set. I would have to get rid of the A3000
post #15213 of 15255
Hello.

I've had this set since 2007 and finally my son went to turn it on and we got the green blinking power button then a continuous red flashing lamp light. From what I have been reading it's my lamp. I was planning on ordering a new one but before I ordered I pulled the old bulb and it doesn't have a burned out "look" to it, looks pristine. I've never dealt with a bulb like this one before and was wondering if these can fail and look like "normal" I know there was another issue with these sets and I didn't want to soak 100 bucks into a new bulb before I got some opinions.

Thanks
post #15214 of 15255
Wow, when these TVs start to go green, they really go fast, don't they? frown.gif

Thought I'd be able to ignore it for a while til I found a good deal, but now I'm not so sure.
post #15215 of 15255

I think my KDS-60A3000 has finally succumbed to the dreaded SXRD light engine problem. Before I replace or have it rebuilt I was wondering if I could get some opinions. From what I have observed all colors are there, red and green seem fine, blue has odd dark spots. All white has brownish/yellow tints in same place as blob on pure blue screen. I assume the blue panel has gone bad or has some thing stuck on it. I tried cleaning , but that had no affect. I have attached pictures of my screen showing various colors and the "blob" - let me know what you think.

 

 

All Blue

"white"

All Green

All Red

Red/Blue

Green/Blue

post #15216 of 15255
Has anybody got the firmware for kds60a3000 they can upload somewhere or a working link to one? I have scoured this thread and google but all previous links to this firmware uploads are dead! Need desperately and gratitude in advance to anyone who can help smile.gif
post #15217 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Shape View Post

Wow, when these TVs start to go green, they really go fast, don't they? frown.gif

Thought I'd be able to ignore it for a while til I found a good deal, but now I'm not so sure.
They really do.

My 55" started showing signs of green in mid-2012, very slight tint that was easily masked with settings. But last January, watching things like hockey, with a lot of white on the screen was impossible, so in March, I tried getting Sony to repair it out of warranty. The tech they sent out quoted a few thousand for the optical block part, so I decided to just buy a 55HX950 (incredible LED tv) and put the 55A3000 in a bedroom. It went unused for many months and after using the HX950 through that time, I forgot what the A3000s color looked like, so I powered it up a week ago...it has gotten much, much worse just sitting. I was trying to find a rebuilt optical block that I could just trade out but have been unable to.

The only thing that it appears that you can do is send your defective block into this guy John (talked about in this thread http://www.avsforum.com/t/1216793/sony-optical-block-talk-and-repair-assitance/120), and wait around 9 months for him to get to it and send back.

I'm debating on whether or not to just get rid of what was an excellent TV until the picture started going green....or try to get the optical block out and send it for repair and wait 9 months.
Edited by HuskerTornado - 1/18/14 at 3:44pm
post #15218 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Bill Misencik View Post

In my opinion, no, there is no consistently reliable substitute for the Phillips bulb.

I disagree, because my Philips bulb was crap. smile.gif Lasted 1.5 years and only 1/3 of the expected hours. mad.gif My Osram (I think it was Osram) has lasted 4.5 years. I keep getting "end of life, replace" warnings for the bulb but still looks great. So, I will always defy anyone who says Philips was the best. Osram, part of Sylvania, also supplied Sony for other rear-projection bulbs so they also have expertise. Philips just supplied Sony at the lowest cost.

And NO, you don't "get what you pay for". Never confuse the quality of a product with price. Overpriced crap is overpriced crap. I'm not going to defend no-name generics from China that have flooded the market... but my OEM Philips bulbs was also made in China. I posted pics to prove it 4 years ago. At the time, some people here were claiming Philips was made in the USA, which was incorrect. You can search this thread.

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Having said all that, although this TV refuses to die after 6 years, I just bought a 60" LG PN5700 Smart TV plasma for less than $700 from a local big box store. The TV technology has improved over the past 6 years and I want to take advantage of that.

I researched and helped my parents get a non-smart TV LG 60" plasma last summer. WOW. I set it up in my living room and after tweaking the display settings, I compared my Sony rear-projection and their LG plasma side-by-side. Every time I went over to their house I was envious. Finally this week, with the great sale price, I had to buy the LG plasma. Plus, the one I got has more features and connectivity (3 HDMI inputs plus wi-fi & SmartTV apps) than their LG Plasma TV.

I owned this Sony for exactly 6 years. I actually joined AVSForum while researching this TV. I bought it January 2008 before that year's Super Bowl. Now 2014, just before the Super Bowl. Back in the fall 2007, Sony had already announced they were leaving the rear-projection TV market, even though this model won TV of the Year from a respected AV magazine. I was afraid all the TVs would be gone before I could scrape together enough money. smile.gif Luckily the price kept dropping due to close out sales. So, I got it for around $1850 after tax, which was a great deal, considering it was priced over $3000 when first announced in 2007. smile.gif

But now? Picture is still good, I got lucky and had no optical block issues -- but honestly a current day 60" LG Plasma for $700 beats it. Rather than try to sell the 6-year old Sony on Craigslist for $200 or so, plus the hassle of people coming to the house to see it, having to explain the rear-projection aspect (which people don't want nowadays) -- I just gave it to my brother-in-law in return for him helping me transport the new plasma from the store to my house. I also gave him another spare bulb I kept on hand. He still has 30" CRT, so it's a big move up for he and his family.

This TV was my first HDTV, and I went for the best -- at that time. Hopefully my brother-in-law can get another 2 - 3 years out of it.

Edited by ChazzMatt - 2/1/14 at 7:17am
post #15219 of 15255

Bought the A3000 in 4/08. Replaced the bulb once, directly from Sony. Warning message now comes on. I find that there are bulbs made from Philips, Osram and Osram Neolux. Any suggestuions on which to buy complete with housing. I just used the self test and it shows 8,134 bulb hours (right side number). Do you know if this number autoimatically changes to 0 when a bulkb/housing is replaced? Thanks very much for any help.

post #15220 of 15255
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Originally Posted by sirmorris View Post

I find that there are bulbs made from Philips, Osram and Osram Neolux. Any suggestuions on which to buy complete with housing. I just used the self test and it shows 8,134 bulb hours (right side number). Do you know if this number autoimatically changes to 0 when a bulkb/housing is replaced?

I bought my last lamp from niosales on ebay. It was an OEM Philips and has been working well. I believe they offer Osram as well, as well as options of whether the lamp is in a new housing or a refurbished one. Read the descriptions carefully to make sure you are getting the exact lamp/housing arrangement that you want.

The counter does not automatically reset. You must go to "Lamp Replacement" under "General Settings" and indicate that you have replaced the lamp in order to reset the lamp counter.

Also if your current bulb is performing well, I wouldn't replace it just because of the message. It probably would be a good idea to have a replacement on hand though. However if you didn't reset the lamp counter the last time you replaced the lamp, the counter isn't giving you an accurate message anyway. It works simply on the hours since it was last reset.
Edited by KC-Technerd - 2/3/14 at 8:43am
post #15221 of 15255
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Originally Posted by sirmorris View Post

Bought the A3000 in 4/08. Replaced the bulb once, directly from Sony. Warning message now comes on. I find that there are bulbs made from Philips, Osram and Osram Neolux. Any suggestuions on which to buy complete with housing. I just used the self test and it shows 8,134 bulb hours (right side number). Do you know if this number autoimatically changes to 0 when a bulkb/housing is replaced? Thanks very much for any help.

Why buy with housing? It takes two seconds to put the new bulb in your old housing. Save the environment. I got my bulb at niosales too.
post #15222 of 15255
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Originally Posted by joea123123 View Post

I think my KDS-60A3000 has finally succumbed to the dreaded SXRD light engine problem. Before I replace or have it rebuilt I was wondering if I could get some opinions. From what I have observed all colors are there, red and green seem fine, blue has odd dark spots. All white has brownish/yellow tints in same place as blob on pure blue screen. I assume the blue panel has gone bad or has some thing stuck on it. I tried cleaning , but that had no affect. I have attached pictures of my screen showing various colors and the "blob" - let me know what you think.




All Blue


"white"


All Green


All Red


Red/Blue


Green/Blue

Definite light engine failure!!
post #15223 of 15255

I would like to know where to get the Firmware update for the Sony KDS-60A3000. I have looked everywhere. Does someone still have the files I can download or the jump drive?

post #15224 of 15255

Sony just sent me the update on a USB drive. I got it up to date now.:D

post #15225 of 15255

Thanks - I figured as much after doing some reseaerch. I was able to send it out for rebuilding (they replace blue LCD). Swapping it out is fairly easy to do but very time consuming - take lots of pictures. Picture is like new now!

post #15226 of 15255
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Originally Posted by joea123123 View Post
 

Thanks - I figured as much after doing some reseaerch. I was able to send it out for rebuilding (they replace blue LCD). Swapping it out is fairly easy to do but very time consuming - take lots of pictures. Picture is like new now!

how much you payed for this repair?

post #15227 of 15255
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Originally Posted by handiestservice View Post
 

how much you payed for this repair?

$195

post #15228 of 15255
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Originally Posted by joea123123 View Post

$195
From whom? What are the procedures for such a service? What does this $195 include?
post #15229 of 15255
That's not bad at all.

I've been looking at 4k TVs to replace my KDS-60A3000, and $200 sounds pretty good since the 1st gen 4ks aren't that desirable.

My TV is looking a bit dull these days in addition to getting the green blob. I wonder if this repair will fix that too? Or maybe it just needs a cleaning.
post #15230 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Shape View Post

That's not bad at all.

I've been looking at 4k TVs to replace my KDS-60A3000, and $200 sounds pretty good since the 1st gen 4ks aren't that desirable.

My TV is looking a bit dull these days in addition to getting the green blob. I wonder if this repair will fix that too? Or maybe it just needs a cleaning.
Me too... It is getting time for another bulb though and that coupled with a $200 repair might be putting me in the neighborhood of a newer set. Think about it, there is a really good chance someone would pay you about $400 for your Sony off of CL. So if I can get about $400 plus take the $350 I would have spent on keeping this TV top notch, I could probably get a newer set that does not need bulbs. Not sure though what $750 would get me though. I would be willing to go down in size to say 47"-50" range, but not in PQ.
post #15231 of 15255
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post


From whom? What are the procedures for such a service? What does this $195 include?

if it includes the parts cost and service fee in this price, i think it shuld be reasonable. as far as i know, it has this panel in ebay, new panel will cost over USD120 and used one up to USD100.

post #15232 of 15255
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post


Me too... It is getting time for another bulb though and that coupled with a $200 repair might be putting me in the neighborhood of a newer set. Think about it, there is a really good chance someone would pay you about $400 for your Sony off of CL. So if I can get about $400 plus take the $350 I would have spent on keeping this TV top notch, I could probably get a newer set that does not need bulbs. Not sure though what $750 would get me though. I would be willing to go down in size to say 47"-50" range, but not in PQ.

I was thinking same thing and was looking at 4k sets but for  $200 and some time my KDS60A3000 looks like new, has a great picture and should last another 4-5 years. By then hopefully 4k sets will have come down and will be in 3rd or 4th gen. Although 8k sets might be out also. A decent 60" LCD is in the $1500 range at least right now so spending the $200 made more sense for now.

 

The price included parts, labor and shipping back. I found the person on eBay but I see he has raised his price to $250 now. You will need to take the old unit out which is a pretty straightforward but time a consuming job. Ship the unit to him, its takes 4-5 weeks and he ships it back. Take LOTS of picture when removing - it helped me remember 5 weeks later as I put it back in. You could just buy the LCD panel on eBay for about $110 but you will need to adjust and calibrate - not something I wanted to do.

post #15233 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Shape View Post

That's not bad at all.

I've been looking at 4k TVs to replace my KDS-60A3000, and $200 sounds pretty good since the 1st gen 4ks aren't that desirable.

My TV is looking a bit dull these days in addition to getting the green blob. I wonder if this repair will fix that too? Or maybe it just needs a cleaning.

Green blob is almost certainly a bad blue LCD panel. If you look at my pictures above you will see what I was seeing. I am sure a light engine rebuild is what you need - not a cleaning. The 2000 series SXRD’s  would show these problems much sooner. It has taken about 5 years for it to show up in 3000 series sets as Sony did a better job of providing cooling for the LCD's, but apparently not enough.

post #15234 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Shape View Post

I've been looking at 4k TVs to replace my KDS-60A3000, and $200 sounds pretty good since the 1st gen 4ks aren't that desirable.
Actually, 4K 2nd Generation TV's are already coming out. Several manufacturers are prepping the release of their 2nd Gen 4K's, and some have already released them, including LG. I believe Vizio said their 4K UHD would be released in April? But I'm waiting to see Vizio's P-Series.

However, personally all I need is a 50" or so and 1080p is just fine at that size. Would like to get my hands on a Panasonic TC-P50ST60 if I can ever find one. I see that sears outlet has 33 in stock. Although, reading about the built in adds turned me off considerably.
post #15235 of 15255
I just replaced my 60A3000 with a Samsung 60F8500. My A3000 is still working fine, but I wanted to get a plasma set before I would be unable to. I'm pleased for the most part, and I don't think I am ready for 4k yet.
post #15236 of 15255
Well, I bought a replacement SXRD chip from eBay. There are 2 more available.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281220866414?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

All of the SXRD chips are identical despite the fact that they say Red/Green/Blue on them. The dichroic glass mirrors are what separates the colors out. The blue channel gets the bulk of the UV light from the bulb, and that is why it degrades the fastest.

I'm going to tear the TV open and see if I can fix it. The service manual is available online, and it looks quite a bit easier to disassemble and get to the light engine than the A2000 series. On the A2000, the last thing you get to is the light engine. On the A3000, it's practically the first thing.

I'll try and make a video of the process.
post #15237 of 15255

you are luck, as far as i know, only small spare parts in the aftermarket for A3000 series TV, 

 

expecting for your video....

 

ever communicted with a US experter, he said too, the red, green and blue panels are same, interchangeable each other. if we fix the green or yellow tint, unnecessary to note the color of panel. but we have to know, if the replacement is used one, we had better select the red or green panel to replace your bad one. 

 

in 3 pcs panel, the blud one is more close to the hot, always is the first to burnt, even the used blue panle still work normally, it still can't work longer time than red or geen one.

 

i have a proposal for Shape, please carefully check your 3pcs panels,whether it only has 1pcs panel is bad in 3pcs? because i faced some case, after i replaced 1pc panel, the problem still is keeping. at the begining, i think the replacement is defective, actually, it has 2pcs panels are bad in 3pcs panels, after replace those two bad panels. the tv finally recovered.

post #15238 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Valnar View Post

Is there a DMEx module that allows you to play local files on the TV? I know there were a few DME modules, but didn't know if any of them allowed local content to be played.

The one marketed for the KDS-xxA3000, the Sony DMX-NV1, can play local files. There is a context menu extension, called Send2MyTV, that can be added to Microsoft Windows that will redirect a URL to the DMX on the same local subnet (you home network). The trick to this is that you need to set up a local web server. This can be done by activating Windows Media Center, if you have the appropriate release of Windows.

The extension can be accessed here: http://internet.sony.tv/customer/template/Software.vm?lang=en. You will need to use your SONY Essentials user account.
post #15239 of 15255
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Originally Posted by handiestservice View Post

you are luck, as far as i know, only small spare parts in the aftermarket for A3000 series TV, 

expecting for your video....

ever communicted with a US experter, he said too, the red, green and blue panels are same, interchangeable each other. if we fix the green or yellow tint, unnecessary to note the color of panel. but we have to know, if the replacement is used one, we had better select the red or green panel to replace your bad one. 

in 3 pcs panel, the blud one is more close to the hot, always is the first to burnt, even the used blue panle still work normally, it still can't work longer time than red or geen one.

i have a proposal for Shape, please carefully check your 3pcs panels,whether it only has 1pcs panel is bad in 3pcs? because i faced some case, after i replaced 1pc panel, the problem still is keeping. at the begining, i think the replacement is defective, actually, it has 2pcs panels are bad in 3pcs panels, after replace those two bad panels. the tv finally recovered.

Yeah, I noticed that there are a lot of SXRD211 panels available, but not too many SXRD221 panels (120Hz in the A3000).

Hopefully I only have one bad panel. We will see.
post #15240 of 15255
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Originally Posted by handiestservice View Post

you are luck, as far as i know, only small spare parts in the aftermarket for A3000 series TV, 

expecting for your video....

ever communicted with a US experter, he said too, the red, green and blue panels are same, interchangeable each other. if we fix the green or yellow tint, unnecessary to note the color of panel. but we have to know, if the replacement is used one, we had better select the red or green panel to replace your bad one. 

in 3 pcs panel, the blud one is more close to the hot, always is the first to burnt, even the used blue panle still work normally, it still can't work longer time than red or geen one.

i have a proposal for Shape, please carefully check your 3pcs panels,whether it only has 1pcs panel is bad in 3pcs? because i faced some case, after i replaced 1pc panel, the problem still is keeping. at the begining, i think the replacement is defective, actually, it has 2pcs panels are bad in 3pcs panels, after replace those two bad panels. the tv finally recovered.

Thank you!! Good to know!! So how can one be sure that the supplier is providing a new vs. used panel? Are new ones still available? Are they still being manufactured? Like you said, if I need to replace the panel used for blue, I don't want to use a used panel.
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