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post #211 of 15255
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Originally Posted by SmokenAshes View Post

Hey Insly, I noticed you have Time Warner Cable with HD channels. I have a question, when I'm watching say a movie on HBO HD on my XBR1. I notice during fast action scenes I start to see blocks of pixels as if its not getting streamed fast enough to my TV or something. Does this TV help with that or get rid of it completely? And anyone know why the heck that happens? Thanks again for all your info and help for us soon to be owners. *Goes back starring at the "Processing" at SonyStyle...*

Sounds like you have an RF issue or something out at your house. Get them to use their tools to make sure your signal level is up to par. I don't have that issue with any of my HD channels.

What area are you in?

I was able to get a 6ft HDMI 1.3 cable from Blockbuster last night, for a fair price.
post #212 of 15255
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Originally Posted by MGF View Post

Just got back from BB. Here's the scoop and you're not going to belive it - it was the bulb! Apparently it would pop almost immediately. For them to catch it and fix it this fast would make me assume it was a simple fix. Something shorting maybe. But they caught it and fixed it. The fact that insly's is working just fine put's me at ease. Sony certainly has had some issues in this deparment though haven't they? But I guess all manufaturers have had some issues.

Frank

I thought the bulb in the A3000s was the same as last year's sets?
post #213 of 15255
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Originally Posted by insly View Post

Sounds like you have an RF issue or something out at your house. Get them to you their tool to make sure your signal level is up to par. I don't have that issue with any of my HD channels.

What area are you in?

I was able to get a 6ft HDMI 1.3 cable from Blockbuster last night, for a fair price.

I live in Souther Cal, Camarillo to be exact. I'm in 2 year old Apts so I don't get why the signal level is not up to par. Speaking of which I think they were having a hard time getting a signal when they were installing it *shrugs*
post #214 of 15255
I've read this entire thread (in one sitting, so I might have missed it), but how is it that the KDS-R60XBR2 is priced more than the KDS-60A3000? Isn't the tech in the R60XBR2 inferior in all respects to the A3000?
post #215 of 15255
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Originally Posted by God_TM View Post

I've read this entire thread (in one sitting, so I might have missed it), but how is it that the KDS-R60XBR2 is priced more than the KDS-60A3000? Isn't the tech in the R60XBR2 inferior in all respects to the A3000?

The XBR is Sony's high end line of tvs thus it is priced higher.
post #216 of 15255
I would understand that, if you were comparing the KDS-60A3000 to the KDS-Z60XBR5, but we're taking about last gen tech (R60XBR2) compared to current gen (A3000), yet it's still more expensive.

What specifically does the R60XBR2 have that the A3000 doesn't? We're talking about a $700 diff between the two, which doesn't seem justified on specs alone...
post #217 of 15255
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Originally Posted by BDP33 View Post

The 8300HD looks better hooked up via component dont know why but this is the general consensus from owners and my personal opinion as well.

I've flip flopped between HDMI and component a few times and you can see a difference.

I can believe that you may see a difference, but can't buy component being BETTER on a SXRD. When you use component you go through an extra D>A/A>D conversion cycle (the D>A in the cable box, the A>D in the CCPX chip on the video board in the set).

Keep in mind that there are different user setting memories for each input - so the differences you see are most likely due to differences in those settings. Further, perhaps the user settings you have on the HDMI input actually "cover up" the more accurate input from HDMI.
post #218 of 15255
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Originally Posted by God_TM View Post

I've read this entire thread (in one sitting, so I might have missed it), but how is it that the KDS-R60XBR2 is priced more than the KDS-60A3000? Isn't the tech in the R60XBR2 inferior in all respects to the A3000?

One of the reasons, in my opinion, would be the brightness/screen gain/SSE. SSE really bothers me, but I hardly notice it when I watch the XBR2 compared to the A2000. This is why I am most likely going to buy the XBR2. 60HZ bothers me less than abundant SSE. Now, if someone comes here and starts saying the SSE is significantly reduced from the A2000 to the A3000 then I might be willing to go with the new generation, but up until now I haven't heard that.

So, me personally, I think I would pay the extra $300 and go with the XBR2 being that it is a known commodity with very few documented faults, and it has the lowest amount of SSE I've seen on a RP.
post #219 of 15255
I second tapar1's (#191) question regarding the viewing angles. Also, how's the reflection on the screen compare to other techs and TVs when viewed with heavy/bright lighting?

Thanks for your time.
post #220 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Prisoner655321 View Post

One of the reasons, in my opinion, would be the brightness/screen gain/SSE. SSE really bothers me, but I hardly notice it when I watch the XBR2 compared to the A2000. This is why I am most likely going to buy the XBR2. 60HZ bothers me less than abundant SSE. Now, if someone comes here and starts saying the SSE is significantly reduced from the A2000 to the A3000 then I might be willing to go with the new generation, but up until now I haven't heard that.

So, me personally, I think I would pay the extra $300 and go with the XBR2 being that it is a known commodity with very few documented faults, and it has the lowest amount of SSE I've seen on a RP.

I spent 2 weeks trying to convince myself to buy a 60 or 70" xbr2. Couldn't ever find a picture that suited me. Blacks were always weak. A2020 was always a better picture in every store I visited. I almost got a 2020, but instead now I'm waiting for my 3000.

I get a ton of good tech specs from AVS, but nothing beats your eyes (like the old joke: "Are you going to believe what your eyes see, or...")
post #221 of 15255
Does anyone know if this TV (or the 2020 for that matter which was probably the same), allows you to use the TV's speakers as a center channel? My current center speaker won't fit in the stand I ordered, so I need a temp solution until I buy another. Thx
post #222 of 15255
So are these new tv's out in the wild at most BB's and other big name stores for our viewing pleasure?
post #223 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Lands View Post

Does anyone know if this TV (or the 2020 for that matter which was probably the same), allows you to use the TV's speakers as a center channel? My current center speaker won't fit in the stand I ordered, so I need a temp solution until I buy another. Thx

Whether or not it can it certainly is not a recommended means of gaining Center Channel. It's been discussed in other areas and there in fact is a difference between a dedicated center channel and having the stereo default speakers trying to fake it as that's all your going to get is a fake.
post #224 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don View Post

So are these new tv's out in the wild at most BB's and other big name stores for our viewing pleasure?


NO, at least not here in Oregon and it seems those that have gotten them have had to go a bit out of there way like to the warehouse etc.

I called several local BB, CC, etc and none have it, although they can order it.
post #225 of 15255
Well, I got a call today confirming my delivery by noon tomorrow I may not be the first to get one in, but I will be one of the first guinea pigs. Oink, Oink !! My only regret is that I don't have more sources to plug in and play with. I will have to find a friend with PS3 or 360 to try.

Brian
post #226 of 15255
Another question; what's the rating [in hours] of the bulb?

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post #227 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Fl!pZyde View Post

Another question; what's the rating [in hours] of the bulb?

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The manual (pg. 44) says Sony suggests replacing the lamp after approximately 8,000 hours of use. YMMV
post #228 of 15255
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Originally Posted by insly View Post

That does seem to be a pretty good price - good find!

Interesting that the 60A3000 is priced less than the 60A2020.
post #229 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Lands View Post

Does anyone know if this TV (or the 2020 for that matter which was probably the same), allows you to use the TV's speakers as a center channel? My current center speaker won't fit in the stand I ordered, so I need a temp solution until I buy another. Thx

I've got the A2000 and just decided to go Phantom mode and disconnect my original center for now. The quality of the speakers on the SXRD wouldn't make it a good center.

Someone here on AVS recommended this stand for mounting center channels on the SXRD.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/OmniM...oductDetail.do
post #230 of 15255
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Originally Posted by belsouth View Post

Interesting that the 60A3000 is priced less than the 60A2020.

That price can't be right, can it? Anyone have experience with this company to know if they commonly misprint prices?
post #231 of 15255
Tech Depot is Office Depot. I think OD is very reputable.

The 55" models are $11 apart on Office Depot but you can find the 55A2020 a least $300 cheaper elsewhere with a matching stand and $500 w/o stand.

The other catch is the A3000 models are out of stock on the TechDepot website.
post #232 of 15255
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Originally Posted by God_TM View Post

I've read this entire thread (in one sitting, so I might have missed it), but how is it that the KDS-R60XBR2 is priced more than the KDS-60A3000? Isn't the tech in the R60XBR2 inferior in all respects to the A3000?

Only some of the tech in the 3000 is superior to the XBR2's such as refresh rates. The 3000 is still based on the same display engine from the 2000/2020. Newer, yes. Better, maybe but don't bet on it.
post #233 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Andrew67 View Post

Only some of the tech in the 3000 is superior to the XBR2's such as refresh rates. The 3000 is still based on the same display engine from the 2000/2020. Newer, yes. Better, maybe but don't bet on it.

Also, its still early yet. We have not had a chance to see whether or not there will be any color uniformity or green blob problems on the a3000. The XBRs have had very limited issues in the green blob department. Untill there are a significant number of people with first hand reports, we won't know whether or not this problem has been elimnated. But, since the display engine has not really chancged, I'd venture a guess that we will still see some issues in this department.
post #234 of 15255
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Originally Posted by MGF View Post

Just got back from BB. Here's the scoop and you're not going to belive it - it was the bulb! Apparently it would pop almost immediately. For them to catch it and fix it this fast would make me assume it was a simple fix. Something shorting maybe. But they caught it and fixed it. The fact that insly's is working just fine put's me at ease. Sony certainly has had some issues in this deparment though haven't they? But I guess all manufaturers have had some issues.

Frank

Sorry, no offense but I wouldn't put much faith in what a BB "sales" person tells you. The A3000 uses the same bulb (XL-5200) that was in the A2000 and A2020 and has consequently had over a year of exposure.
post #235 of 15255
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Originally Posted by God_TM View Post

I would understand that, if you were comparing the KDS-60A3000 to the KDS-Z60XBR5, but we're taking about last gen tech (R60XBR2) compared to current gen (A3000), yet it's still more expensive.

What specifically does the R60XBR2 have that the A3000 doesn't? We're talking about a $700 diff between the two, which doesn't seem justified on specs alone...

It's called timing. The XBR is Sony's upper line, even though the A3000 IMO is better than the XBR, Sony cannot price these less than the A3000 at this time. When the new XBR's come out you will see a drastic reduction, but at this time Sony is marketing the older XBR as an upgrade over the A3000.
post #236 of 15255
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Tech Depot is Office Depot. I think OD is very reputable.

The 55" models are $11 apart on Office Depot but you can find the 55A2020 a least $300 cheaper elsewhere with a matching stand and $500 w/o stand.

The other catch is the A3000 models are out of stock on the TechDepot website.

Thanks, but that didn't really resolve the issue. There's a catch somewhere, that price just doesn't match what we'd think was a realistic price, all things considered. Was the 60a2020 similiarly markedly lower than competition at Tech Depot? Any reason to think this is accurate pricing?
post #237 of 15255
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Originally Posted by WaldorfSalad View Post

Sorry, no offense but I wouldn't put much faith in what a BB "sales" person tells you. The A3000 uses the same bulb (XL-5200) that was in the A2000 and A2020 and has consequently had over a year of exposure.

Understand fully and concur. That's why I still think it was something else like a short, bad trace, board, cap or whatever - something other than the actual bulb. It's that the bulb would go pop as a result of something else going wrong.
post #238 of 15255
Here's the .pdf for the recommended stand:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...=SURS12X&LOC=3
post #239 of 15255
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Originally Posted by MGF View Post

Understand fully and concur. That's why I still think it was something else like a short, bad trace, board, cap or whatever - something other than the actual bulb. It's that the bulb would go pop as a result of something else going wrong.

My guess...and this is pure speculation here...they used the wrong tap on the lamp supply transformer (probably the same transformer but different tap used in the XBR) and matched it to the higher wattage bulb in the XBR line. Easy to do and would certainly explain the bulb blowing quickly.
post #240 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Fl!pZyde View Post

I second tapar1's (#191) question regarding the viewing angles. Also, how's the reflection on the screen compare to other techs and TVs when viewed with heavy/bright lighting?

Thanks for your time.


According to the specs at the Crutchfield site, the viewing angle is listed as 130 degrees horizontal and 60 degrees vertical.
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