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post #241 of 15255
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Originally Posted by roybishop View Post

Here's the .pdf for the recommended stand:

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/mod...=SURS12X&LOC=3

I did not see the pdf.......I saw a no pic pic LOL and no other info, BUT it did say the "recomended" stand. :0)
post #242 of 15255
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

I can believe that you may see a difference, but can't buy component being BETTER on a SXRD. When you use component you go through an extra D>A/A>D conversion cycle (the D>A in the cable box, the A>D in the CCPX chip on the video board in the set).

Keep in mind that there are different user setting memories for each input - so the differences you see are most likely due to differences in those settings. Further, perhaps the user settings you have on the HDMI input actually "cover up" the more accurate input from HDMI.

I've had a Mitsubishi and now a Samsung DLP. There are different user settings for the inputs on both of those sets also. I can't see how an SXRD is going to be any different then any other TV I've had with this box. Even though I'm not a "pro" calibrator I don't think my calibration efforts have anything to do with it. I've done a fine job with other pieces of equipment to get things where they should be. The HDMI output on the SA-HD8300 is to blame. Believe what you will though.
post #243 of 15255
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Originally Posted by BDP33 View Post

I've had a Mitsubishi and now a Samsung DLP. There are different user settings for the inputs on both of those sets also. I can't see how an SXRD is going to be any different then any other TV I've had with this box. Even though I'm not a "pro" calibrator I don't think my calibration efforts have anything to do with it. I've done a fine job with other pieces of equipment to get things where they should be. The HDMI output on the SA-HD8300 is to blame. Believe what you will though.

Well, you can't get around the fact that (at least on the SXRDs) you have an extra D>A/A>D conversion when you use component compared to HDMI. You may believe that the extra conversion cycle improves the picture, I fail to see how it cold.

Of course, I can't speak for your other sets, but I do know that some Mits models actually converted HDMI into analog. So on those sets, it would not be surprising if component was better (it's all a matter of who had the better D>A - Mits or SA). But I do know what the story is on the SXRDs.
post #244 of 15255
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Originally Posted by bluemoon737 View Post

My guess...and this is pure speculation here...they used the wrong tap on the lamp supply transformer (probably the same transformer but different tap used in the XBR) and matched it to the higher wattage bulb in the XBR line. Easy to do and would certainly explain the bulb blowing quickly.

Excellent call, bluemoon.. you're probably right. I'm impressed Sony was able to get this corrected so quickly, not to mention having these sets out before their ETA. All this while Samsung still has their new slim line DLPs grinning back at their owners for months now.
post #245 of 15255
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Originally Posted by 84jeepjohn View Post

I did not see the pdf.......I saw a no pic pic LOL and no other info, BUT it did say the "recomended" stand. :0)

It's there, click on " Manuals/Specs/Warranty section." - middle right.

Holy crap that thing looks like a bitch to assemble...
post #246 of 15255
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Originally Posted by walk View Post

It's there, click on " Manuals/Specs/Warranty section." - middle right.

Holy crap that thing looks like a bitch to assemble...

thanks I found it. it may just be me but that stand looks like you can NOT move the glass shelf???? how do you put stiff under it??? that's not good. I think I'll just stick with my $50 coffee table that's held my 4K TV for about 3-4 years LOL figure that one out.
post #247 of 15255
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Originally Posted by brophog View Post

Thanks, but that didn't really resolve the issue. There's a catch somewhere, that price just doesn't match what we'd think was a realistic price, all things considered. Was the 60a2020 similiarly markedly lower than competition at Tech Depot? Any reason to think this is accurate pricing?

I agree that the price seems too good to be true and I was hoping someone could shed some light on what the "catch" might be. So far no one has so I'm just going to leave my order out there. Maybe they'll cancel it but maybe I'll get lucky! If it actually ships at that price, I'll let everyone know.
post #248 of 15255
Thanks.
post #249 of 15255
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Originally Posted by juddmenkveld View Post

I agree that the price seems too good to be true and I was hoping someone could shed some light on what the "catch" might be. So far no one has so I'm just going to leave my order out there. Maybe they'll cancel it but maybe I'll get lucky! If it actually ships at that price, I'll let everyone know.


I ordered too. so I think they'll come through on the price. The price is actually more than I paid for my A2000 back in January, so the price seems about right for an internet company. I expected to pay a little more actually since it is newer technology. I hope they get them in stock soon. My order said "on backorder" for a some time, but now it says "processing" and they already charged my card. Unless that's just a pre-authorization on my card. I called their customer service and they don't see anything more than we do on their end, so calling them seems to be of no help. It's not like they can see what's in their warehouse or anything. The guy did say that it may be that they have been in contact with the supplier and are waiting for delivery to their warehouse. I'm not going to hold my breath or anything because I'm still waiting on my Onkyo 905 receiver. Everything seems to take too long to get these days. It's hard to be patient when your system is incomplete.
post #250 of 15255
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Originally Posted by walk View Post

It's there, click on " Manuals/Specs/Warranty section." - middle right.

Holy crap that thing looks like a bitch to assemble...

We got the A2000 with SURS11X stand and my non mechanically inclined roommate put it together by himself while I was playing with the TV. If you can follow the instructions, its not that difficult.
post #251 of 15255
Will call them tomorrow after I take delivery.

Brian
post #252 of 15255
Hey insly, have you tried the default settings from cnet or one of the calibration threads yet? I will try cnet settings tomorrow and start with that.

Brian
post #253 of 15255
Can somebody post a link to the CNET settings? I'm assuming they calibrated an A3000 and this is what they came up with. I'm not quite sure where they're at. I tried to search for it, but couldn't find any settings. Thanks
post #254 of 15255
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Originally Posted by stevesns69 View Post

Can somebody post a link to the CNET settings? I'm assuming they calibrated an A3000 and this is what they came up with. I'm not quite sure where they're at. I tried to search for it, but couldn't find any settings. Thanks

I think this is what your looking for?
http://reviews.cnet.com/9601-4_7-0-4...sageID=2506536
post #255 of 15255
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

Well, you can't get around the fact that (at least on the SXRDs) you have an extra D>A/A>D conversion when you use component compared to HDMI. You may believe that the extra conversion cycle improves the picture, I fail to see how it cold.

Of course, I can't speak for your other sets, but I do know that some Mits models actually converted HDMI into analog. So on those sets, it would not be surprising if component was better (it's all a matter of who had the better D>A - Mits or SA). But I do know what the story is on the SXRDs.

I don't know how my Mits converted I had a 732 and also a 734...and I'm not sure how my current Samsung 5676S converts either. I just know what my eyes tell me.

When my A3000 comes in I'll try using both component and HDMI to see what looks best to me just like my other sets.
post #256 of 15255
Insly, thanks for creating this thread and thanks for your kind devotion to posting many pictures and pretty much answering every question posted - AVS members like you make this site very worthwhile.

I have a question regarding the 1080p/24 feature, however - in the menu screen where you can enable the 1080/24 feature, that option is preceded by "BD" (other options also are preceded by "BD") and by "BD" I am assuming that stands for Blu-Ray Disc...does that mean the A3000 can only enable the 1080/24 feature for HD content retrieved from Blu-Ray Disc media, and no HD-DVD content? Not sure if you would be able to answer this question because I understand you have a Blu-Ray player (the PS3) but not certain whether you also have the HD-DVD extension for the Xbox360. Thanks again, Insly - and enjoy your great purchase!
post #257 of 15255
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Originally Posted by stevesns69 View Post

Can somebody post a link to the CNET settings? I'm assuming they calibrated an A3000 and this is what they came up with. I'm not quite sure where they're at. I tried to search for it, but couldn't find any settings. Thanks

I was actually referring to the A2000/A2020 settings. I figured since the TV's arent that much different that the settings might be a good start. After that you will have to tinker with it for your tastes and your room.

Brian
post #258 of 15255
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Originally Posted by ^Gremlin^ View Post

I think this is what your looking for?
http://reviews.cnet.com/9601-4_7-0-4...sageID=2506536

This is obviously the 2000/2020 models and NOT the 3000. I would NOT assume that this is close enough. Not at all.
post #259 of 15255
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Originally Posted by WOLVERNOLE View Post

This is obviously the 2000/2020 models and NOT the 3000. I would NOT assume that this is close enough. Not at all.


Well, my feeling was that I will start with default (maybe torch mode) and if it does not look great, I have to change something. If the cnet settings don't look any better, I will reset and do one at a time. Mine will be here by noon, so they say

Brian
post #260 of 15255
I went by yesterday and they couldn't find the TV in their system at all. I called the store before I went and had the SKU number (posted earlier in this thread), and they were able to pull it up that way.


The convenience of B&M is worth it to me I guess.

I do have one question which is off topic, but I know that all of the smart people are reading this forum (and getting this TV...LOL), but can someone post a link to a 2m (6ft) HDMI cable at Monoprice. There are so many to choose from, I am overwhelmed. I guess 24-gauge, and I will have several HDMI 1.3 components/1080p, etc. I don't need "in-wall" cables.

Thanks.

P.S. Thanks for all your help insly
post #261 of 15255
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Just search for kds-60a3000 o I can't post URL's yet.

If you are successful pm'ing
post #262 of 15255
Has anyone had any experience with the Office/TechDepot extended warranty?
post #263 of 15255
Holy Sh!$#. Just left . $XXXX efore tax for the KDS-60A3000! The reward zone gift certificates actually make this same price I can avoid the shipping charge.

The best part is I can pick it up on Friday!
post #264 of 15255
For what it's worth they are saying it will be two-weeks before they have the KDS-60A3000 in stock. Here's what they said.

Hello,

Your order is currently on back order, The item should be back in stock within 2 weeks. Please let me know if you would like to wait or cancel your order.


I cancelled
post #265 of 15255
Insly-
Have you hooked the 360 up with the VGA cable yet?
post #266 of 15255
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tomtbone View Post

Insly-
Have you hooked the 360 up with the VGA cable yet?

No, I have the elite, so there isn't any point.
post #267 of 15255
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Originally Posted by gte747e View Post

I do have one question which is off topic, but I know that all of the smart people are reading this forum (and getting this TV...LOL), but can someone post a link to a 2m (6ft) HDMI cable at Monoprice. There are so many to choose from, I am overwhelmed. I guess 24-gauge, and I will have several HDMI 1.3 components/1080p, etc. I don't need "in-wall" cables.

All cables do the same thing, and that is to conduct and carry on an electrical signal, with the exception of fiber optic cables which transfers pulses of light. The variations among the swath of cabling out there is due to manufacturer's purported claims of varying insulation, shielding, wire twists, colors, gauges, blah blah blah. They all do the same and work the same and the fact that HDMI is transferring a digital source, they shouldn't really matter at all unless the cable sucks to the point where there is severe loss of signal. It is a qualitative loss, all-or-nothing, contrary to crappy speaker cables and analog video cables (e.g. composite and component) where you get distortion/noise for sound and distortion/discoloration/noise for video. Most people don't even know that you can actually use RCA cables in place of composite, composite in place of component...or actually any of the cables in place of any of the above!

Buy what your wallet thinks is best. Don't buy the pricey HDMI cables - they're mainly ripoffs. On the other hand don't buy the dirt cheap ones although they might still get the job done durability may be questionable.
post #268 of 15255
Well, it showed up on time and I have been playing with it for about an hour. I hooked it up to my computer right away and set my computer to 1080P. It overscanned quite a bit. I used the nvidia control panel to adjust for overscan compensation and ended up with 1824X1016 to be able to see my whole desktop. There is one small problem, however. When I adjusted for overscan, the horizontal is a little off. It looks perfect on the left side, but a little is missing on the right. If I make the right side perfect, there is a little bit of black showing on the left. Maybe in the service menu there is an option to adjust the whole screen over a bit. Geometry on top is a little off, but looks pretty good overall. If anyone wants pics, I can take a few, but they look pretty much like the 55

Brian
post #269 of 15255
Gumby -

How are you connected to the TV ( dvi-> hdmi cable?
What video card model (I saw the nvidia part)

I will be very interested in how you get this to work, as I plan on running my home theater pc off this unit (well, the 55" model).
post #270 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Squawks View Post

All cables do the same thing, and that is to conduct and carry on an electrical signal, with the exception of fiber optic cables which transfers pulses of light.

You're correct, if you include just the length of wire itself. However, cables have connectors and those connectors need connected to the wire itself. That is the area where there is a difference in cable quality. If you've ever played electric guitar, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Guitar cables are notorious for such things as poor connector soldering.
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