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post #3001 of 15255
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Originally Posted by fpconvert View Post

Full refund of difference for 60 days from date of purchase. 110% of competitors lower price.
I imagine most don't recheck price but they can count on me to check until day 60.

Just called up BB on this, because even though I got 360.00 off, it is now 2199.00 on CC site. I thought cool, I can get another 100.00 back. Turns out the 60 day guarantee is for in store only and 30 days only on competitors. They NEVER told me that when I purchased the set. The exact words from the BB sales guy was 60 day price match, and he said nothing more or less.

Correction. Just went to BB site and although on the phone a CSR of BB said it is in store only for 60 days, the BB web site about the 60day guarantee says it is on HDTV's for 60.00 days between june of 07 and Feb of 08. ANyway, non issue as BB has the same price as CC.
post #3002 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Blue1 View Post

Could someone please tell me how to post a photo on this forum?

When I go to insert a photo, a box opens asking for a http: address.
Say what?

I did a search using their FAQs and nothing came up when I put in
"photos", "inserting photos" ect... Arrr......!

Yes, when you upload your image to http://imageshack.us it will give you a direct http address to your image, then you just copy/paste that http address when the forum software asks you to. Simple...
post #3003 of 15255
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Originally Posted by liquidz View Post

I'm planing to buy this solely for gaming, especially with my 360 using HDMI cables.

But now this talk of lag is scaring me, I hear different thing from different people.

One said there lag even with Gaming Mode on and another said there no lag even with it off. Can anyone confirm if this tv is good for gaming? or this tv was not made for it because of Lag. i dont whanna lose mY major rank in halo 3 because of this LoL

First off, I am not a pro-gamer by any means but I am a game programmer, so I know a thing or two about gaming . I set my 360 to game mode and I cannot detect any gaming lag at all on my 60" A3000. I don't think you could possibly become "bad" at Halo3 with this TV. You should know that most console fps games don't require pixel perfect aiming because of the imprecision of the joystick inputs. This means that we generally tend to look around the reticule for targets of interest to the player even if he his not centered directly on it. Its for this reason that even if the TV has a very small delay it would hardly prevent you from killing people online.
post #3004 of 15255
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post

Yes, when you upload your image to http://imageshack.us it will give you a direct http address to your image, then you just copy/paste that http address when the forum software asks you to. Simple...

Thanks, I'll give it a try!
post #3005 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

Correction. Just went to BB site and although on the phone a CSR of BB said it is in store only for 60 days, the BB web site about the 60day guarantee says it is on HDTV's for 60.00 days between june of 07 and Feb of 08.

Where on the site did you see this? Got a link?

I bought from Best Buy, online only... about 32 days ago.

edit: right now Bestbuy.com is totally dead to me...
post #3006 of 15255
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Originally Posted by mclaren777 View Post

After many months (years?) of lurking around on this site, I'm finally ready to come out into the open because I need some urgent advice.

I've been debating whether or not to get an A3000 since earlier this summer but now that Sony has significantly dropped their price I want to act quickly in case the sale expires this weekend. The only problem is that I don't know which size to get (50, 55, or 60).

Facts about me...
  • I only watch SD television channels
  • I have a Playstation 3 and tons of games
  • I watch a fair amount of Blu-ray movies
  • 50% of the television I watch is on VHS tapes
  • My couch is exactly 10 feet from the TV stand
So because VHS-quality SD content is such a big part of my life, getting the 50" makes more sense because the image won't be stretched as much. But having the 60" would be great for gaming and watching Blu-ray movies. And then part of me wants to get the 55" just because it's the middle ground, though I don't want to regret it later.

So which do you guys recommend, given that the prices are only $200 apart? And is buying directly from Sony really worth the risk if there's a technical problem with the TV?

Oh yeah, and can somebody please tell me the exact dimensions of the base on the 60A3000. Perhaps it'll be too large to sit on my 48"x18" stand.

Get the 60 inch. SD looks just fine (I have DirecTV). Think about it this way....what are you going to watch in the future a year or two down the road? VHS? Blu-Ray? HD? Don't get a tv to watch outdated technology, get the tv to watch current/upcoming technology that you're bound to switch to sooner (or later). I sit 9.5' away from mine and I struggled with the 55 or 60 for quite a while. I bought the 60 and couldn't be happier.
post #3007 of 15255
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Originally Posted by walk View Post

Where on the site did you see this? Got a link?

I bought from Best Buy, online only... about 32 days ago.

edit: right now Bestbuy.com is totally dead to me...

You're right, they are in the middle of updating their site now. But once it's back up, the 60 day policy is there.....it's buried a bit, but I'm sure someone will post the link once the site is up. I saw the 60 day price match on HDTVs bought between the dates mentioned. I bought my tv a week ago with the sale price plus the 12% coupon, so the new price is still a few dollars more, but I'll be waiting and watching over the next 50some days.....
post #3008 of 15255
Does BB have that 12% off coupon all the time or is that just something that happens every now and then? I had the 12% off coupon bookmarked but it expired on the 10th...
post #3009 of 15255
sweet. i bought mine for $2429 - $300 Directv discount - $100 package deal to offset the CC pricematch. CC was at $2299 last week and they had the $300 off with directv. BB basically almost matched the price ($29 away, but the warranty was less, so i spent less total $$). my basis will now be the difference between the $2429 and current selling price at BB. keeping my figers crossed!
post #3010 of 15255
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Originally Posted by SkOrPn View Post

Does BB have that 12% off coupon all the time or is that just something that happens every now and then? I had the 12% off coupon bookmarked but it expired on the 10th...

they run them every so often, BUT some stores will let you take the % off the marked rice and some say that you have to go off of the REGULAR price.

i tried to use the 12% last week and the GM got involved. the coupon clearly stated that the 12% was off of REGULAR price. that was $2699 at the time. 12% off was the same as the current listed price.

i wish the BB site would come back up! i want to see what the TV is priced at today!
post #3011 of 15255
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Originally Posted by sclamage View Post

After many, many months of deliberation I finally got a 60A3000 last weekend. Unfortunately I've been pretty busy this week so I haven't had as much time as I would have liked to play with it. But here are my impressions so far:
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- Geometry problems: Like many other people here, my picture bows in about 1/4" at the top. The bow starts about halfway up.
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Has anyone learned anything about manual geometry adjustments? There was some discussion earlier in the thread about adjusting the A2020, and the fact that nobody has yet figured out the equivalent adjustments on the A3000. I poked around for a while last night and even opened up the portholes on the sides looking for a place to adjust the geometry, came up empty. As this is a purely mechanical issue, surely there must be a simple way to fix it, even if that means a service call. Right?


For part of this, I refer back to an earlier post.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post11730398

The Sony Authorized Service Person made it clear that there was no adjustment for the geometry. I wish there was. If anyone hears of anything different, please let us know! He told me that the Sony tolerance was 1-inch. He then called his Sony representative to verify both the tolerance and that it could not be adjusted. I am curous if someone else had their set serviced and got the same answers.

My first and third (current) set had/have about the same geometry that you are describing. It is only noticeable with the side bars in 4:3 SD sources and with my PC which is connected through the PC input (only choice for now). My second set had a twisted frame where even the speaker frame along the bottom was badly misaligned.

There are those that say their A3000 have no geometry issues what so ever and I am indeed envious. It is those claims that still have me questioning things.
post #3012 of 15255
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Originally Posted by kenshin-dono View Post

hey they did!

its 100 dollars cheaper than what i payed for it last week at circuit city.. wtf.. wahts circuit city's price policy dont they give you the difference if you find it cheaper in like 30 days or soemthing? iw ant that extra 100 bucks

Yes
post #3013 of 15255
I am still anxious to hear more about the ISF calibrations. I am hoping that the complexity of those issues and methods can be overcome. A friend of mine had his XBR2 ISF calibrated, and after seeing it all I can say is WOW.
post #3014 of 15255
I have read several posts that report light coming out the back of the set. I am not overly concerned with that. I have one particular triangular spot that comes out the back that seems VERY bright. I had not noticed this before I moved my set towards the back of my stand. I am still trying to be sure that this set is in the norm during this 30 day period. Does anyone else have this bright spot with the general lighting that comes out of the back frame?
post #3015 of 15255
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Originally Posted by mclaren777 View Post

After many months (years?) of lurking around on this site, I'm finally ready to come out into the open because I need some urgent advice.

Base is ~40 x 17" (60" set)

SD DTV is very good from the distance you state.

Cannot speak for VHS.

I was very pleasantly surprised by the picture quality of the 60" and would not hesitate to do it again. Wish it was even bigger.
post #3016 of 15255
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Originally Posted by mclaren777 View Post

After many months (years?) of lurking around on this site, I'm finally ready to come out into the open because I need some urgent advice.

...please tell me the exact dimensions of the base on the 60A3000. Perhaps it'll be too large to sit on my 48"x18" stand.

The base is 40-7/8" at the widest part. It's 16-1/2" deep. You should have zero problems given the stand footprint of 48x18".
post #3017 of 15255
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Originally Posted by MultimediaGeek View Post

The Sony Authorized Service Person made it clear that there was no adjustment for the geometry. I wish there was. If anyone hears of anything different, please let us know! He told me that the Sony tolerance was 1-inch. He then called his Sony representative to verify both the tolerance and that it could not be adjusted. I am curous if someone else had their set serviced and got the same answers.

I can confirm that the A3000 does not have the trapezoid or tilt adjustments that the earlier "A series" SXRD sets had. I will also tell you that Sony's service site has no specification regarding what is acceptable distortion. Sony has apparently made the decision that it is cheaper for them to replace a few sets than to include the former adjustment mechanism on every single set.
post #3018 of 15255
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Originally Posted by macshee View Post

The base is 40-7/8" at the widest part. It's 16-1/2" deep. You should have zero problems given the stand footprint of 48x18".

The only problem he might have is that the 60A3000 is approx 54" wide making the TV's sides stick out nearly 7" on both sides. If this is ok than yeah go for it...
post #3019 of 15255
I was just at a store looking at these, had been trying to find a Mits 55734. These Sony's look like a better choice for me. Can anyone tell me if $1800 for the 55" or $1980 for the 60" is a great deal or not? I am thinking they are great prices, but saw some recent talk about price cuts.
post #3020 of 15255
OK, back on the height to angle to distance thing.

Has anyone compared the A3000 against the A2020 in this category? While having 24p/120Hz and an extra HDMI would be nice, it's a little more important to see the picture first. I don't remember seeing any viewing angle problems on the A2020 in the stores. I'm sure if I looked, it would be still available.

Any opinions on this?

Robert
post #3021 of 15255
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

I can confirm that the A3000 does not have the trapezoid or tilt adjustments that the earlier "A series" SXRD sets had. I will also tell you that Sony's service site has no specification regarding what is acceptable distortion. Sony has apparently made the decision that it is cheaper for them to replace a few sets than to include the former adjustment mechanism on every single set.

Dave,

Are any other service menu adjustments different on the A3000 compared to the previous models?

I am considering purchasing the A3000 and getting it ISF'd.

Also, does this display accept and display 1080p 24 correctly? I know 120hz is advertised with it.
post #3022 of 15255
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Originally Posted by liquidz View Post

I'm planing to get a DLP HDTV in the next couple of days.

But I'm stuck between the 60A3000 or the 61 inch Samsung LED DLP?

I notice the 60A3000 cost more, is there any advantages it has compare to the sammy.


I heard alot of problems with the sammy led including the Halo prism Effect and Bowing issue.

I have the 60A3000 and was briefly considering returning it due to my notice of the Silk Screen Effect(SSE). Then SONY (authorized) service tech told me he didn't know of SSE or anything to do to fix it. Said calibration was not covered by SONY warranty and I would probably end up paying for it. So instead of the service I noticed Samsung LED DLP on sale at Circuit City. Planning to return the SONY and keep the Samsung if the Samsung was better I got the Samsung (HL-T6187S).

So I had both TVs side by side switching cable, HD-DVD, etc between them. I varied settings based on threads on AVS. Back and forth. Bottom line, to my eyes the SONY was better than the Samsung! I could never get the Samsung looking quite the same, especially on HD content. Maybe it was the particular set. Anyway, I took the Samsung back and kept the 60A3000. And it seems the more I watch it the less I'm noticing the SSE.
post #3023 of 15255
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Originally Posted by Kirby Baker View Post

I am thinking they are great prices, but saw some recent talk about price cuts.

Generally the prices on http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...categoryId=565 always seem to be current suggested retail. As with anything, it's usually possible to get items below MSRP. Because the drop seems to have just happened, Best Buy Reward Zone would probably be the easiest no-hassle way to get 12% off. Generally their coupons often seem to come out around holidays, but they're probably more frequent than that. The 60" now meets my price-point so that I don't think I'll be waiting on any more general reductions, and I'll probably get one by the end of November. Of course based on the last two years of looking at TVs, I think it's qute possible the coupon price will be shelf price here in Denver by that time.
post #3024 of 15255
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Originally Posted by alluringreality View Post

Generally the prices on http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...categoryId=565 always seem to be current suggested retail. As with anything, it's usually possible to get items below MSRP. Because the drop seems to have just happened, Best Buy Reward Zone would probably be the easiest no-hassle way to get 12% off. Generally their coupons often seem to come out around holidays, but they're probably more frequent than that. The 60" now meets my price-point so that I don't think I'll be waiting on any more general reductions, and I'll probably get one by the end of November. Of course based on the last two years of looking at TVs, I think it's qute possible the coupon price will be shelf price here in Denver by that time.

Ahh thanks for the bestbuy tip. I didnt even think to check them for this TV. The only issue is that the 55" isnt in stock locally (not sure if its sold out or just not carried locally). From the short amount of time I have looked at this TV, it seems better than the Samsung LED DLP or the Mits DLP (57734 or 57831) I was considering before, especially from a price point. Honestly had no idea the Sony was so competively priced.
post #3025 of 15255
Just a note for anybody who's going back to bb to get a retroactive price match: If you bought your tv with an hdtv advantage package (this is the $300 off for new DirecTV customers, $100 for buying HD players, etc.), you may have some trouble. I bought mine over 30 days ago but less than 60, and had no problems with the tv refund. I'd gotten $100 off because of the DirecTV package deal, however, and couldn't get $100 off the new price of the tv because they would have had to refund it and repurchase it, but I was outside of the 30 days for return. It didn't matter too much for me as I still came out ahead, but somebody who really used the package may have some troubles.

Oh, and I'd bought the bb protection plan for my 50", which was the $2000-$2499 plan. The new price is in the $1500-1999 range, so it's only $350 instead of $400, and I had no problems getting that refunded with the tv price.
post #3026 of 15255
Hi.

So, I'm on my 3rd 60A3000 TV, all because of geometry issues. Each one has had a different set of problems, but I think my latest one is the best one so far.

However, I only have a day left to decide to return it for another (which I really don't want to do, but I do want the best geometry possible).

Here's a computer-generated grid from my HTPC:


What do you think of this geometry? These squares look pretty good to me, but when I watch 4:3 content with black bars on the side, I still see a slight trapazoidal shape (squeezing toward the top by about 1/8" inch)



Just wanted to get a check from the experts and friends on the forum!

Thanks,
post #3027 of 15255
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Originally Posted by tiffman View Post

Just a note for anybody who's going back to bb to get a retroactive price match: If you bought your tv with an hdtv advantage package (this is the $300 off for new DirecTV customers, $100 for buying HD players, etc.), you may have some trouble. I bought mine over 30 days ago but less than 60, and had no problems with the tv refund. I'd gotten $100 off because of the DirecTV package deal, however, and couldn't get $100 off the new price of the tv because they would have had to refund it and repurchase it, but I was outside of the 30 days for return. It didn't matter too much for me as I still came out ahead, but somebody who really used the package may have some troubles.

Oh, and I'd bought the bb protection plan for my 50", which was the $2000-$2499 plan. The new price is in the $1500-1999 range, so it's only $350 instead of $400, and I had no problems getting that refunded with the tv price.

D'oh! I just got back from Best Buy, where I did a retroactive price match, but totally forgot about the price difference on the warranty. I still got 220 bucks back. Oh well, I don't think I'll be worrying about that extra 50 enough to go back again and deal with one of their associates for a half hour again over it.

Thanks a lot to you people for the heads up on the lowered price, though.
post #3028 of 15255
Your geometry looks pretty good to me, JonDeutsch. Not perfect, but I would consider it tolerable. My set has about the same amount of "trapezoiding", that I didn't even really notice until a day or two after it was delivered.
post #3029 of 15255
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Originally Posted by madpony View Post

D'oh! I just got back from Best Buy, where I did a retroactive price match, but totally forgot about the price difference on the warranty. I still got 220 bucks back. Oh well, I don't think I'll be worrying about that extra 50 enough to go back again and deal with one of their associates for a half hour again over it.

Thanks a lot to you people for the heads up on the lowered price, though.

i got my price match and after the $300 directv rebate, i got the set for $1899. not too bad, but i still have 45 more days

oh yeah, the warranty is based off of the regular price, which is not bad. i want to get $2199 credit if it breaks and i need a lemon exchange, not $1899!

now i will patiently wait for a reward zone coupon
post #3030 of 15255
Hello all ... I am not sure if I can post direct links but I guess I will. KDS-55a3000 for cheap, with free shipping.

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...73&PID=1802658
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