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post #61 of 202
I'm going to Download the retail from Direct2Drive at midnight. Or maybe I'll make a late night Wal-mart run...

As for the controller, I've got more things mapped with my n52 and mouse than the 360 controller has buttons...
post #62 of 202
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Not 'till tomorrow (Tuesday).



2) Sound in 5.1 on a X-Fi card is amazing!

3) I might be in the minority here, but first time through the PC demo I played with mouse/keyboard, and it was fine. Second time through I tried a wired 360 controller... the controller is the way to play this game. The reason might be because this game was designed for a controller, or maybe I've just gotten used to dual sticks...? Either way, it felt a lot more natural with the 360 controller. And the rumble is cool!

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I prefer the mouse and keyboard, but to each his own

I agree on the X-Fi though. I don't have 5.1 but it sounds amaaaazing with just 2.1 also.
post #63 of 202
Gamepad on a PC? You serious?

I have the good old original Audigy, and I'm using it under VISTA and there is no VISTA EAX support, not without a lame wrapper anyways. I turn it on and it's doing something...I think all it does is turn on D3D support. Better than nothing I guess. It could be the Vista EAX wrapper is built into the game too. It does sound great.
post #64 of 202
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Not 'till tomorrow (Tuesday).

Wow... I just played through the PC demo twice. A couple thoughts:

I played the demo for about 2 hours tonight. I feel sick and nauseating. I think this game isn't my cup of tea. I like some reality.

Theres no way this is better controlled on a game controller than KBM. I just went to a level with 3 aliens coming at me one in front, another at 2 oclock, and one behind me. I had to move around fast to get them. Otherwise I'm being pummeled to death by that pipe wrench.

Yes vsync is a must on this game. I wonder how the 360 version does on this. Theres a lot of tearing on the PC version if vsync is off.
post #65 of 202
Apparently there is a giant FOV problem with this game and widescreen. Check out this thread for more details: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com...ic.php?t=11658
post #66 of 202
Maybe thats why I have a headache..
post #67 of 202
^

YES. Read this. FYI I felt sick as well.

http://news.com.com/5208-12_3-0.html...18919&start=-1
post #68 of 202
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RE: gamepad over mouse/keyboard (I figured I would be the minority here )...

I'm not sure how to defend my position on this -- all I can say is that this game seems to have a constant, steady forward movement that, for me, flows better with the dual stick controller.

I don't even think the game has a run/walk mode...? I kept accidentally hitting the L.Shift to run (too much Doom3 and HL2 lately ) and a sub-menu pops up! Bad default place for that, methinks.

As synergy said, to each his own I guess. The M/Kb works well, and the hacking subgame is much better with the mouse! It's nice to have the option on the PC. I know on my second time through the game I'll be playing m/kb to experience it differently.
post #69 of 202
AND...it is not available..Steam is FOS.
post #70 of 202
now it said downloading after restarting steam. WTF? whats the preload for?
post #71 of 202
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

RE: gamepad over mouse/keyboard (I figured I would be the minority here )...

I'm not sure how to defend my position on this.

You don't have to defend your position.

There is no question that the keyboard/mouse combo offers a level of accuracy not achievable with a game-pad, but there are other factors to consider beyond the competitive one.

My PC is set up in the dining area, and I typically play either on a comfy chair or cross-legged on the floor. The game-pad works perfect for my environment.

And like you said -rumble. This provides added emersion that the keyboard/mouse folks are missing out on.

It's also a matter of what you are used to. Since I've gamed on consoles for years, a gamepad feels natural to me -even if it does make me less competitive.

Changing the subject, I was freaked to hear about the widescreen vertical cropping issue. I feel sorry for 2K. No question they have been burning the mid-night oil to bring this game to market on-schedule, and unfortunately, they dropped the ball.

Since I've yet to get the game (comes out on Friday here in NZ) I'm inclined to just sit on it until a patch comes out.
post #72 of 202
Got mine at Circuit City web pickup. They were sold out already.
post #73 of 202
I walked into a gamestop, and asked if they got it in for PC. The guy stated that they NEVER get PC games in (it's a small gamestop), but just so happened, 3 copies came in today. He said he didn't think anyone would actually buy one today.
post #74 of 202
Got it, intsalled it, but it doesnt run/lauch. F@cking copy protection sh@t. Tried on two systems. What a POS .
post #75 of 202
Works fine for me. Did you buy it online or retail? You need to keep the DVD in (obviously) for retail.
post #76 of 202
I played the 360 demo again.....glad I didn't preorder...I'll wait a bit, I have no real craving to play this game right now. Guess I'm just not in the mood. Must be ovulating
post #77 of 202
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Works fine for me. Did you buy it online or retail? You need to keep the DVD in (obviously) for retail.

retail......POS
post #78 of 202
Well, I'm running Vista Home Basic x64. You might have to wait for a no-disc crack (shouldn't take long). If I were you I would definitely post to 2K's technical forum. They have lots of problems already.

I'm just trying to get the damn thing to work with EAX in Vista so I can hear all the extra voices. There's a way to do it. I have Creative's wrapper, I just don't know how to set it up.
post #79 of 202
running XP pro SP2. Intalling it for the fourth time right now. If it doent work, back it goes to the store .

Addendum: well that was 3 hours I will never get back...it looks like it tries to find the disc but with no luck. Good old securom (Sony SW cr@p) sh@t.
post #80 of 202
I had no problems installing/running it, but I am having an issue getting 5.1 sound.

Edit: fixed it.
post #81 of 202
bought the pc retail today, no problems installing, game looks amazing and plays great.
Anyone having problem activating..make sure your numbers and letters arent mixed up.
post #82 of 202
Was having STEAM problems but got it worked out by disabling my antivirus software. The software never bothered my other STEAM games but I guess Bioshock has some new updates that don't work with my Antivirus program.
post #83 of 202
Steam sucks. Buy it retail. You're better off. Plus this way you can always resell the damn thing if you ever get bored with it. There's no registration linked to your particular PC is there?

I know they said they would do expansion packs, but I'm not counting on it. I would imagine with what they're giving now this game will get lots of play over and over again. I know I already screwed up a part and have to replay something over from the beginning to see what I missed.
post #84 of 202
This game is INTENSE.

There's a moment in the dentist's office...

I'll just say my wife woke up and came in the office to ask me if I was alright. I had to stop playing for the night.
post #85 of 202
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I'm just trying to get the damn thing to work with EAX in Vista so I can hear all the extra voices. There's a way to do it. I have Creative's wrapper, I just don't know how to set it up.

I believe Bioshock supports OpenAL, so you wouldn't use ALchemy anyway (I assume that's what you're referring to). You don't have to do anything funky to get OpenAL games to work in Vista.

I'm getting EAX in Vista with the game, though I did have to manually turn it on as well as manually select 5.1 in the Bioshock options.

What are your symptoms?
post #86 of 202
I bought the game on Steam yesterday. It downloaded quite quickly- Maybe an hour and a half total and I was up and running. The only issue I'm finding is that dx10 just doesn't work. I have to start with a -dx9 flag. This is on a laptop with an 8600M GT with the 'beta drivers' for the game so I dunno what's up there. Even under dx9 though, damn, it is pretty impressive! Mostly fluid, running with everything set to high at native 1440x900. I will play a bit more with settings today since I'm finding some choppiness in fights, making it hard to kill baddies at times. Unfortunately, Vista is so broken that I can't get an external display to work via DVI at more than 1024x768 (Blame Apple, NVidia, or whoever, I blame Vista, Vista has sucked), nor can I get my G15 or MX Revolution to work so I'm stuck playing on the laptop screen. Very good voice acting and the characters are pretty cool. Seems to be a worthwhile pick!
-Trouble

Edit: Went back to play a bit more this AM and found the thing crashing constantly. A little digging led to a whole bunch of issues, but a main suggestion was installing the latest DirectX from MS. Went and did this and viola! Game now runs in DX10, runs faster and has been stable.
post #87 of 202
post #88 of 202
I've seen a lot of poeple having issues, but I've noticed that most of those people are the ones that bought the downloadable versions. The only issues those with the retail version have are with the disc protection, and many of those people are putting their serial keys in wrong. Too bad, because the game is a classic, and better on PC, but it's release is marred with this, and the whole widescreen thing.
post #89 of 202
I can't rebind movement keys in the demo. I get an in-game error talking about reserved key.

What kind of PC game doesn't allow you to override default key binds?

I don't use WASD, therefore I can't play the demo.
post #90 of 202
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post

PC version is getting bad press.

Ugggg....

Not to go off on the omnipresent PC vs. Console argument, but just to get this off my chest:

PCs have so much potential to top the console experience -- I've been having some great fun re-playing Doom3 over the last couple days.

But sometimes it takes so much patience, cost, and effort to get to that potential... it can take away from the fun. When PC games work well, it's an experience that can't be touched. When they don't work well, I guess it's time to fire up a console.
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