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post #10081 of 10321
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I just got done spending no less than 7 hours tweaking my two new PC13 Ultras in a 10x14ft foot room. Mode, settings, placement, and a perfect Audyssey XT32 calibration makes the difference between these subs being very lacking or absolutely breathtaking.

I bet it is breathtaking in a room that size ! Put on Saving Private Ryan, and feel the Tiger tanks vibrations as they roll through the town near the end of the movie ! smile.gif
post #10082 of 10321
SVS nation!!! looking for some advice here....

In my movie room (2800 cubic foot), I currently have 3-subs (2 VTF3-HO's + 1 VTF3 MK4). Downstairs in my living room, I had dual vtf3-mk2's (which I just sold...). So, I am moving 2 of my subs from my movie room downstairs to my living room system.

I am looking to buy 2 subwoofers (most likely... ) OR, keep the dual VTF3-HO upstairs and move the VTF3-MK4 downstairs....

So...

Should I get dual PB13-Ultras (to pair with the vtf3-mk4, moving the dual VTF3-HO's downstairs...), OR 2 VTF-15H's

Or buy just 1 PB13-Ultra and pair it with the dual VTF3-HO's in the movie room?

-Luis
post #10083 of 10321
How much more power consumption is it to leave the sub ON instead of AUTO? I feel my PC13 Ultras take too long to activate, but i'm worried it would be harder on them and increase my power bill.

Thanks.
post #10084 of 10321
I switch off mine after using it since I found that the amplifier gets hot when I leave it in "Auto" mode. I don't think will make much difference about the power consumption...
post #10085 of 10321
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Originally Posted by Tyrindor View Post

How much more power consumption is it to leave the sub ON instead of AUTO? I feel my PC13 Ultras take too long to activate, but i'm worried it would be harder on them and increase my power bill.

Thanks.

For the Sledge 1000, On mode at idle pulls about 22W and Standby mode pulls about 0.5W.
post #10086 of 10321
I leave mine on auto. It never seems to be a problem to wake it up. Not really hot on standby, a bit warmish but not hot by any means.smile.gif
post #10087 of 10321
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

I leave mine on auto. It never seems to be a problem to wake it up. Not really hot on standby, a bit warmish but not hot by any means.smile.gif

Same here two PB13 with Sledge amp set on Auto. No issue waking up when the the receiver is sending bass signal to the subs and they run cold when they are off.
post #10088 of 10321
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

I leave mine on auto. It never seems to be a problem to wake it up. Not really hot on standby, a bit warmish but not hot by any means.smile.gif

I also leave my PC13s (Sledge) on Auto, which never have a problem waking up; most of the time, the "kick" from the AVR being powered on does the trick, and it never gets more than luke warm, even when on "full load" (defined here as when I fear for my foundation and am picking up books from toppled shelves). When not in use, they are stone cold.
post #10089 of 10321
I have the Bash amp. It never really gets that warm even under loud volume and bass load.
post #10090 of 10321
BASH vs Sledge amp question...
I've got one of each amp in my two PB13 Ultras, due to one of the original BASH amps passing. I've level matched them through measurement at 1' from each sub. I notice the BASH amp sub is able to bottom out on VERY loud passages (done it a couple times now - Oblivion ending explosion, Olympus Has Fallen), whereas the Sledge never hits bottom. I haven't measured actual max SPL to see if the Sledge is truely keeping up with the BASH. But I wonder if the BASH limiting circuit isn't keeping enough control over the driver as the digital Sledge is. Or if the lowfrequency cut-off on the BASH isn't as abrupt as the Sledge, thus some below tuning frequency material is passing through the BASH and going to the driver. I run both at the one port plugged 15/16Hz tunes (BASH/Sledge). Thoughts? Perhaps I just need to upgrade the BASH amp to a Sledge? Or listen quieter? Or only watch chick flicks?
post #10091 of 10321
A 250 watt increase isn't a big deal reguarding max SPL. The sledge is suppose to give better driver control and more protection AGAINST OVERDRIVING. I think your bash amp gain setting is higher than the sledge. Try reducing the bash gain .
post #10092 of 10321
In absolute terms, the model provides Sledge + 2 db spl. It also provides better protection than an older model bash.

The slope of the model fall bash so I have understood is a little long, which makes it easier to push the boundaries of the subwoofer.

Do you hear noises in the subwoofer? If it is not, not to worry, the SVS subwoofers can have a great ability to tour and this makes people stay surprised for such capacity.

What levels of adjustment on both subwoofers have? ? 75 db, 80 db, ...?
post #10093 of 10321
Well... I just got a pair of PB13-Ultra's in piano finish delivered to me on halloween.... WOW smile.gif what a beautiful finish! they are flat-out gorgeous subs. Looking forward to getting them set-up and pounding away in my 2800 cubic foot movie room.
post #10094 of 10321
If anyone in the Denver area is looking to order a single PC-13 Ultra, hit me up, looking to save on their paired deals!
post #10095 of 10321
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Originally Posted by Ed Mullen View Post

We consider the 12 Hz tune (i.e., 2 ports plugged) to be under-ported, and therefore it's not supported with a tune setting on the Sledge amp. With that said, the Sealed amp setting employs a 10 Hz 2nd order high pass, and as such will also work fine with two ports plugged.

In a small room exhibiting a lot of room gain, the Sealed mode will probably work best, but the 12 Hz mode (i.e., 2 ports plugged and Sealed menu option) will also work. Either one will complement room gain and will result in flat extension to very deep frequencies.

excellent - didn't realise you could do this - thanks

I used to get a much flatter room response (quite small, square, relatively low SPLs) with the 10Hz tune with my BASH amp - than I have been getting with the 16hz tune on my SLEDGE amp (BASH amp failed) - and have been enjoying the SVS less since the replacement

I'm guessing the 12hz tune talked about is similar to the original 10hz tune on my PC13-Ultra with BASH ?

thanks
post #10096 of 10321
On a different "note" I've been using 4 pcu 13"s in a 2 ch system for a few years now.I recently replaced one BASH amp with a Sledge and as per Ed Mullen's setup suggestions it integrates well with the other 3 BASH amps.

I started out with one, then two. The combination gave an excellent improved bass response. Then (out of greed) I bought two more. The result is stunning! Two co-located subs should give +6 dB which in my room went to +6.5 dB. Four subs 2x2 co-located resulted in +15dB! Enough power to crumble drywall.

The difference I noticed between one and two co-located pairs in my room, about 2700, cubic feet is worth the expense.
post #10097 of 10321
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Originally Posted by rampage123 View Post

On a different "note" I've been using 4 pcu 13"s in a 2 ch system for a few years now.I recently replaced one BASH amp with a Sledge and as per Ed Mullen's setup suggestions it integrates well with the other 3 BASH amps.

I started out with one, then two. The combination gave an excellent improved bass response. Then (out of greed) I bought two more. The result is stunning! Two co-located subs should give +6 dB which in my room went to +6.5 dB. Four subs 2x2 co-located resulted in +15dB! Enough power to crumble drywall.

The difference I noticed between one and two co-located pairs in my room, about 2700, cubic feet is worth the expense.

Congrats! that's a nice approach! cool.gif
post #10098 of 10321
Anyone know why SVS stopped manufacturing dual sub units? I own the PB12-Plus/2 and my father owns the Ultra/2 (both about 7 years old). I see a lot of guys on here buying 2 Ultra 13's for example when it would be nice if there was a Ultra 13/2 model.
post #10099 of 10321
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Originally Posted by BrutalBodyShots View Post

Anyone know why SVS stopped manufacturing dual sub units? I own the PB12-Plus/2 and my father owns the Ultra/2 (both about 7 years old). I see a lot of guys on here buying 2 Ultra 13's for example when it would be nice if there was a Ultra 13/2 model.

Probably only SVS can answer that one.
post #10100 of 10321
It's trigger pulling day on a new sub. I figured I'd ask the devil's advocates. Can someone in this thread talk me out of going with a Rythmik FV15HP? Output and extension are similar to my other choice, the PB-13 Ultra, but the Ultra is way bigger and more of an eye sore in my studio loft. 15" and 600watt amp or 13.5" and 1000watt amp w/ bigger box..tough call.
post #10101 of 10321
I emailed them, awaiting a response.

Obviously there's a market for it as clearly the Plus/2 and Ultra/2 sold very well and there are plenty of people opting to purchase dual SVS subs these days due to the lack of +2 models.

I still have my Plus/2 but have been considering an upgrade. Unfortunately with the current SVS line and lack of any dual sub models I don't really have any options. Most agree that the SQ of the Ultra 13 would be a bit better than what I currently have, but output likely would be a tad less.
post #10102 of 10321
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Originally Posted by klh1790 View Post

It's trigger pulling day on a new sub. I figured I'd ask the devil's advocates. Can someone in this thread talk me out of going with a Rythmik FV15HP? Output and extension are similar to my other choice, the PB-13 Ultra, but the Ultra is way bigger and more of an eye sore in my studio loft. 15" and 600watt amp or 13.5" and 1000watt amp w/ bigger box..tough call.

All I can say is my PC13-Ultra is a beast. 1KW with 3.6KW peak? BAM!
post #10103 of 10321
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Originally Posted by BrutalBodyShots View Post

I emailed them, awaiting a response.

Obviously there's a market for it as clearly the Plus/2 and Ultra/2 sold very well and there are plenty of people opting to purchase dual SVS subs these days due to the lack of +2 models.

I still have my Plus/2 but have been considering an upgrade. Unfortunately with the current SVS line and lack of any dual sub models I don't really have any options. Most agree that the SQ of the Ultra 13 would be a bit better than what I currently have, but output likely would be a tad less.

I'm not sure the /2 subs have the same results as dual subs. Dual subs even out the bass response in a room by spreading out ther bass over the entire room. Whereas the /2's are basically 1 sub with 2 drivers.
post #10104 of 10321
There's probably some truth to that; I would think two PB12-Plus subs would outdo a PB12-Plus/2 but I would expect that considering the price. I also think the amp wattage is more for the single sub (800 watts RMS) than is half the wattage of the amp in the Plus/2 (which I believe was 1250 watts RMS/2) Looking at the current prices I think I paid exactly the same for the Plus/2 ($1399) about 7 years ago that the PB12-Plus (single) sells for now.
post #10105 of 10321
I just sold my JL audio F113...Have dual sb13-ultra on order...
post #10106 of 10321
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Originally Posted by acmcool View Post

I just sold my JL audio F113...Have dual sb13-ultra on order...

You're in for a treat! Congrats!
post #10107 of 10321
I think I'm about to join SVS Nation. Wanted an SVS sub from day one and well, I think it's time for an upgrade. I'm looking at the PB13 Ultra. I'm coming from a Cadence CSX15 which has served me well, but I think I've outgrown it. My room is 22x17 with 10' ceilings. Is my room big enough for this subwoofer or is it over kill? Should I look at any of the others? This is for a dedicated theater room, movies only, acoustically treated the best I know how. I wanna feel like I got smacked in the face with debris whenever something goes Boom!
post #10108 of 10321
The PB13-Ultra will crush your current sub. If you're looking at single subs, the Rythmik FV15HP is another excellent option. If duals interest you, for roughly the same money as the PB13-Ultra, dual HSU VTF-15Hs would be a solid choice.
post #10109 of 10321
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Originally Posted by drunkpenguin View Post

I think I'm about to join SVS Nation. Wanted an SVS sub from day one and well, I think it's time for an upgrade. I'm looking at the PB13 Ultra. I'm coming from a Cadence CSX15 which has served me well, but I think I've outgrown it. My room is 22x17 with 10' ceilings. Is my room big enough for this subwoofer or is it over kill? Should I look at any of the others? This is for a dedicated theater room, movies only, acoustically treated the best I know how. I wanna feel like I got smacked in the face with debris whenever something goes Boom!

Really no such thing as too much sub, unless it leaves you no place to sit. wink.gif

You're room is what I would consider fairly large. You'd probably be better off with a pair of subs. If budget is an issue, for just a little more than one PB13 Ultra you could get a pair of PC12+. That would give you about the same level of output but with a better more even spread.
post #10110 of 10321
Looking for a deal on PC-13 Ultra or PC-12 Plus, if you're in Denver and considering a sub, let me know!

I'd like to get in on a buy 2 special...
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