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post #241 of 10321
Well the first pair of PB13Us have arrived, my gawd these boxes are big. Now to get them into the theater with out killing myself.
post #242 of 10321
I 'rolled' the boxes end over end, opened the bottom of the box, turned the box over and lifted it off. Furniture mover discs under each sub foot allow easy scooting.
post #243 of 10321
were you able to do it by yourself? or did it take two people?

btw - I am looking at picking up an SMS-1. Thanks for the recommendation.
post #244 of 10321
These are going down stairs. I carried the F113 by myself no way in hell am I trying that with these. At best I'll try to slide them down steps in the boxes. My god these things are big.. Brought a smile to my face the BAX Freight guy said are these for a band? HAHAH

SVS will send the Metal Custom Grills in a few weeks for free.

Here you guys are enjoy.











post #245 of 10321
Well, Open them up and get more pictures
post #246 of 10321
yeah... boxes look nice... but I want to see whats inside more!!!
post #247 of 10321
Shirts are too small... I couldn't wear a Large in Middle School haha shoulders are too f'in wide.

See the pics above...
post #248 of 10321
My Textured Black showed up today. When I first got my PB12 a few years back, I thought it was huge. The wife was none too happy with the size of that one. So this beast shows up today. Should be fun when the wife gets home. Anyways here is some pictures for a size comparison. May still be a few weeks+ before I get to fire this thing up, since Integra won't get off their asses and start shipping the 9.8
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post #249 of 10321
That 13Ultra cone material is some of the nicest cone material I've ever seen. What is that? Anybody know? Ed?
post #250 of 10321
Looks like carbon fiber but I'm not sure..
post #251 of 10321
Quoting Mr. Stephen Ponte the SVS Ultra13 driver designer from a post on the ***************:

" . . . Rohacell is the brand-name of the composite foam material we use, for the cone's core (Polymethacrylimide is the technical name of the stuff). . . . we do not purchase the material from the Rohacell people...hence why we don't label it as such.

It was originally developed for the aerospace industry. Specifically for aircraft wings. Since it's inception into the consumer market (maybe 6 years ago?) the speaker industry has embraced the material for it's ultimate rigidity when reinforced with laminated layers of fiberglass, kevlar, carbon fiber, etc etc. Not to mention it's extremely light. Very high stiffness:weight ratio. Which is all ideal for speaker/subwoofer diaphragms...."
post #252 of 10321
Well I was close I;m not taking a gun to my cone to see if it has Kevlar :P
post #253 of 10321
Quote:
Originally Posted by ggunnell View Post

Quoting Mr. Stephen Ponte the SVS Ultra13 driver designer from a post on the ***************:

" . . . Rohacell is the brand-name of the composite foam material we use, for the cone's core (Polymethacrylimide is the technical name of the stuff). . . . we do not purchase the material from the Rohacell people...hence why we don't label it as such. "

If it is the equivalent of Rohacell then it's the same material used in the B&W 800 series bass drivers.
post #254 of 10321
Could some one tell me if one is better than the other in terms of depth and loudness ect.

I Play film/music 50/50 I am thinking of two PC Ultra13 one for each front corner of the room Dimensions is L19' X W12'.5" X H7'9"

Also against two Sunfire signature EQ in same set up what do you think would be better, My main front speakers are REVEL F32 and center is the REVEL C32
Running off BRYSTON 2LP and 4B
post #255 of 10321
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashmanuk View Post

Could some one tell me if one is better than the other in terms of depth and loudness ect.

I Play film/music 50/50 I am thinking of two PC Ultra13 one for each front corner of the room Dimensions is L19' X W12'.5" X H7'9"

Also against two Sunfire signature EQ in same set up what do you think would be better, My main front speakers are REVEL F32 and center is the REVEL C32
Running off BRYSTON 2LP and 4B

"Better" will be subjective. I believe if you take the FR of the cylinder and shift it 3hz to the left you'll get the FR of the box. In their native tunes, both will give you plenty of output down to 15hz.

Your decision point should be astetics and cost, imo.
post #256 of 10321
The PB will outperform the PC slightly down deep because of a little more internal size. Either will handily outperform the Sunfires.
post #257 of 10321
Thread Starter 
By the way, go check out the AVTalk tests of the new PB-U. The measurements demonstrate how solid this sub is. I knew it was good, but had no idea it was that good!

We really are experiencing reference quality bass!
post #258 of 10321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Kellogg View Post

Well I was close I;m not taking a gun to my cone to see if it has Kevlar :P

You may be right on -- Stephen implied, but did not elaborate on, the use of fibers to strengthen the foam
post #259 of 10321
I have a background in polymers I spent a lot of time on them in college. Ah yes give me those polymers be they semicrystalline, or amorphous. Oh how I love you, you Long-Chain Molecules

Oh just thinking about those Amide linkages, makes me want to create something Ionic or covalent. I guess you could say we bonded, polymers and I.

Thank god those things no longer haunt my nightmares.
post #260 of 10321
Sounds like you've been sniffing your subwoofer a tad too much.
post #261 of 10321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweakophyte View Post

By the way, go check out the AVTalk tests of the new PB-U. The measurements demonstrate how solid this sub is. I knew it was good, but had no idea it was that good!

We really are experiencing reference quality bass!

No kidding, those are really impressive measurements!

It actually seems to have lower distortion across the board than the Velodyne DD18!
post #262 of 10321
I am a relative newbie, and I am looking for feedback from those who have gone down this road before.

I am setting up a new HT room which is 22x17x8ft (fully enclosed).

I was thinking of :

Studio 60 (L & R)
CC690
ADP 490 (surrounds and rear)

2 x SVS PB or PC13 Ultra

Does that sound like a good match for the room? And is the SVS and Paradigm Studios a good match

I am torn between the Box and Cylinder Ultras. I believe I can stack the Boxes in one corner, but I like the look and small footprint of the Cylliners, although that would be negated if I have two Cylinders in the same corner. How do you guys decide.

I would appreciate any feedback. I am putting, what to me, is an awful lot of money into this and I want to get the most bang / value for the money.

I have read a great deal on this forum and I have a lot of respect for those who respond regularly
post #263 of 10321
Here's what I'm listening to now...I quite like it...moving the cut lower makes the FR more bumpy and I'm acquiring a taste for the bloom at 30hz. Roll off gets pretty steep below 18hz due to the room compensation of small (my rooms medium), but I need the clamp down on room gain.

This is blended with the mains running large...

 

15hz,small, wide cut, 28hz, sub + mains.doc 77k . file
post #264 of 10321
Quote:
Originally Posted by raffy View Post

I am a relative newbie, and I am looking for feedback from those who have gone down this road before.

I am setting up a new HT room which is 22x17x8ft (fully enclosed).

I was thinking of :

Studio 60 (L & R)
CC690
ADP 490 (surrounds and rear)

2 x SVS PB or PC13 Ultra

Does that sound like a good match for the room? And is the SVS and Paradigm Studios a good match

I am torn between the Box and Cylinder Ultras. I believe I can stack the Boxes in one corner, but I like the look and small footprint of the Cylliners, although that would be negated if I have two Cylinders in the same corner. How do you guys decide.

I would appreciate any feedback. I am putting, what to me, is an awful lot of money into this and I want to get the most bang / value for the money.

I have read a great deal on this forum and I have a lot of respect for those who respond regularly



There is certainly no problem matching the SVS's and the Paradigms. Choosing between the cylinders and boxes really gets down to personal preference. Either will rock your room, but the boxes have a very slight edge over the cylinders in performance. I personally chose the box because I wanted something that looked like furniture. If you are planning on co-locating the pair, the boxes seem to be a more logical choice.
post #265 of 10321
I will say that, especially with room tuning such as the SMS-1, my PB13-Ultras are amazingly good with music. This afternoon I was listening to Al DiMeola's Splendido Motel, the digitally remastered edition (Columbia CK 46117). Now this is not a bass demo disc, it's excellent jazz excellently recorded. Using an 80Hz x-o, the bass and lower octave piano lines were excellent -- blending with $3.5k main speakers (Onix Ref3's), the PB13s disappeared into the music. On the first track, with my eys closed, I was on a small island floating high in the air, like something from a Yes album cover -- after 6 minutes there's a descending bass line that makes it seem like you are looking over the edge of the island. Subjective? Sure ... but the emotional realism evoked by great music is, after all, what you are paying for, IMO -- and the PB13's have definately increased my level of emotional involvement with the music.
post #266 of 10321
has anybody received the new curved perf grill? Or is everything still shipping with the cloth?
post #267 of 10321
SVS Will ship those out later they are not ready at this time at least thats what I understand.
post #268 of 10321
I'm hope the metal grills ship soon. My damm cat is already rubbing on them, and while her front paws are declawed, she still tries to scratch.
post #269 of 10321
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbacksfan51 View Post

I'm hope the metal grills ship soon. My damm cat is already rubbing on them, and while her front paws are declawed, she still tries to scratch.

Try Master and Commander...
post #270 of 10321
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by raffy View Post

I am a relative newbie, and I am looking for feedback from those who have gone down this road before.

I am setting up a new HT room which is 22x17x8ft (fully enclosed).

I was thinking of :

Studio 60 (L & R)
CC690
ADP 490 (surrounds and rear)

2 x SVS PB or PC13 Ultra

Does that sound like a good match for the room? And is the SVS and Paradigm Studios a good match

I am torn between the Box and Cylinder Ultras. I believe I can stack the Boxes in one corner, but I like the look and small footprint of the Cylliners, although that would be negated if I have two Cylinders in the same corner. How do you guys decide.

I would appreciate any feedback. I am putting, what to me, is an awful lot of money into this and I want to get the most bang / value for the money.

I have read a great deal on this forum and I have a lot of respect for those who respond regularly

Do you have pics or a sketch of your room (inc. seating)? Placing the subs in the same corner (i.e co-locating them) will give you max output. The corners tend to excite the most room modes. Someone can chime in on how different corners might work. Placing them on opposing sides, mid-wall should give you the smoothest frequency response.

Boxes stack nicely. I have the cylinder, and if my set-up allowed it I would have a box ONLY so I could see the driver move.
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