Official SVS Ultra 13 thread - Page 272

Originally Posted by rampage123

Gotta laugh, when the kids say "mom dad's playing the air guitar again."

Originally Posted by princenk007

hello everyone!!!
I am a newbie here.
from the first looks of svs pb-13 ultra, i was very much impressed by it and it has been my dream sub woofer for my dream home theater past a year. But one doubt is in my mind regarding the pb-13 ultras.
It has been a long time, i am in search of comparisons (in form of excrusions or charts) between pb-13ultra with bash amps and the latest pb-13ultra with sledge 1000 D amps. According to the specifications,in terms of wattage, there are definitely some improvements in the new ultras' with sledge amps.
But i am still curious to know in detail, till what extent of lows are the new ultras with sledge amps 'better' when compared with not so old ultras with bash amps?
And, are there any drawbacks of sledge amps? those which bash amps did and sledge amps are unable to achieve?
in DEC 2009, i.e before the release of the new sledge amps, i have gone through many forums and read about pb-13u with bash as pretty impressive and competitive sub compared to other brands. But sledge amps are a shock to me after 1 year! many owners of pb-13 ultras' with bash amps in the past have approved satisfaction in terms of performance in any forums i read. since sledge amps are new, there are a few owners of new ultras' so i am unable to get the performance difference between pb-13u-bash and pb-13u-sledge. so any one who knows the differences can please reply.
I am asking about pb-13 ultra product only. thanks for reply in advance. and
sorry for my poor English.
any website/forum hyperlinks for the comparison are welcome.

Originally Posted by TheFactor

I do know this though im in no hurry to upgrade my amp im totally happy with my bash and my pb13

Originally Posted by croseiv

same here! My duals are more than i really need with the bash amps. I mean, it's already 1500 watts of power.

Originally Posted by croseiv

Same here! My duals are more than I really need with the BASH amps. I mean, it's already 1500 watts of power.

Originally Posted by TheFactor

I agree anymore power and my cat might move out

Originally Posted by rampage123

My thoughts also, bash is enough for me. The sub gains are set at 11:00 (3 notches up) and with the preamp gain at 9:00, even that's more than I really need.

Originally Posted by rampage123

All I've read so far, the sledge is suppose to do a better job controlling the driver and protecting it as well at high power levels. A 250 watt increase puts a little icing on the cake.

Originally Posted by princenk007

hello everyone!!!
I am a newbie here.
from the first looks of svs pb-13 ultra, i was very much impressed by it and it has been my dream sub woofer for my dream home theater past a year. But one doubt is in my mind regarding the pb-13 ultras.
It has been a long time, i am in search of comparisons (in form of excrusions or charts) between pb-13ultra with bash amps and the latest pb-13ultra with sledge 1000 D amps. According to the specifications,in terms of wattage, there are definitely some improvements in the new ultras' with sledge amps.
But i am still curious to know in detail, till what extent of lows are the new ultras with sledge amps 'better' when compared with not so old ultras with bash amps?
And, are there any drawbacks of sledge amps? those which bash amps did and sledge amps are unable to achieve?
in DEC 2009, i.e before the release of the new sledge amps, i have gone through many forums and read about pb-13u with bash as pretty impressive and competitive sub compared to other brands. But sledge amps are a shock to me after 1 year! many owners of pb-13 ultras' with bash amps in the past have approved satisfaction in terms of performance in any forums i read. since sledge amps are new, there are a few owners of new ultras' so i am unable to get the performance difference between pb-13u-bash and pb-13u-sledge. so any one who knows the differences can please reply.
I am asking about pb-13 ultra product only. thanks for reply in advance. and
sorry for my poor English.
any website/forum hyperlinks for the comparison are welcome.

Originally Posted by vipervick

So, I have the PC13-Ultra with the BASH amp. It sounds wonderful for movies, but I find it a little lacking when listening to music.

I have the gain set to 12 o'clock (straight up) and ran Audussey with my Onkyo TX-NR5007. I set the speaker level to -7dB for movies and 0db for music using a Radio Shack SPL meter. I do that after running Audussey on all my speakers for 75dB with the sub a bit hot. I use the Oppo BDP-83 as my universal media player.

The PC13-U is just set up standard with no room correction and no port plugs. I can see the cone moving, but don't really feel any air coming out of the ports (on top). I guess I'm a bit biased from having a 12" JL Audio sealed sub in my Honda Civic Hatchback. The space volume isn't even comparable.

I'm wondering if my room is just too big? The living room itself is 14' x 19', but open to the dining room/kitchen/office on the right of viewing and a hallway to the back. The ceiling is 10'-14' pitched, centered in the middle of the living room and dining room.

Any recommendations for what I should try?

Originally Posted by d_m1010

Same problem here. That's why I had to but six of them. My 10" car sub still way "out-booms" my SVS, but hey, the SVS are supposed to be accurate (especially with my ASEQ1).

Originally Posted by vipervick

So, I have the PC13-Ultra with the BASH amp. It sounds wonderful for movies, but I find it a little lacking when listening to music.

I have the gain set to 12 o'clock (straight up) and ran Audussey with my Onkyo TX-NR5007. I set the speaker level to -7dB for movies and 0db for music using a Radio Shack SPL meter. I do that after running Audussey on all my speakers for 75dB with the sub a bit hot. I use the Oppo BDP-83 as my universal media player.

The PC13-U is just set up standard with no room correction and no port plugs. I can see the cone moving, but don't really feel any air coming out of the ports (on top). I guess I'm a bit biased from having a 12" JL Audio sealed sub in my Honda Civic Hatchback. The space volume isn't even comparable.

I'm wondering if my room is just too big? The living room itself is 14' x 19', but open to the dining room/kitchen/office on the right of viewing and a hallway to the back. The ceiling is 10'-14' pitched, centered in the middle of the living room and dining room.

Any recommendations for what I should try?

Originally Posted by mojomike

My own experience with Audyssey is that it does a great job of smoothing out the irregularities in the frequency response, but the resultant bass is a bit lean. The solution is simple. Just crank up the gain a few db either on the sub itself or on the receiver. This warms up the bass without causing it to sound boomy since the peaks were knocked down already by Audyssey. Try it.

Originally Posted by d_m1010

+1. Exactly what I do.

Originally Posted by LeoB

Since you are in India, I would like to give you one piece of advice from my personal experience: don't buy Ultra with Sledge if you can not return it. This does not apply to us in the States - we can always try the sub and send it back if we don't like it.

I know this comment may cause a lot of questions from other members of the forum, so let me get into some details. I've been using one Ultra with BASH for a year and recently bought the second one, but with the Sledge amp.

There was one drawback in the amp I could not live with and SVS was very nice to send me a replacement Sledge first and then the old trusted BASH. So, now I have two Ultras with the BASH amps and love them.

Since the company was very, very nice to me, I do not want to go into more details and make any negative advertising to their products. The company believes that most of the customers would not notice the drawback of the new amp; so, let your ears be the judge! Maybe I'm just too picky and everybody else would love the Sledge amps.

Originally Posted by mojomike

My own experience with Audyssey is that it does a great job of smoothing out the irregularities in the frequency response, but the resultant bass is a bit lean. The solution is simple. Just crank up the gain a few db either on the sub itself or on the receiver. This warms up the bass without causing it to sound boomy since the peaks were knocked down already by Audyssey. Try it.

Originally Posted by ravingndrooling

Thanks Leo, for spilling the beans..LOL
I learned a long time ago after spending lots of money....No matter how small the irritant, if you don't fix/change it, YOU/I won't be happy. Maybe I'm going deaf, but I turned the gain up on my Outlaw/SMS and my SVS and I don't hear a thing more then 2 feet away from my sub except silence. The noise I do hear is minimal from my point of view, not to mention I would never have that much gain working. Maybe being a little deaf is a blessing! lol

Originally Posted by LeoB

OK. I think I made a mistake - the more mystery you create around something, the more sinister it sounds.

So, I'd rather spill the beans. The new amp has much higher noise level than the BASH. It was completely unacceptable for me. I wish I had measured the noise level with the SPL meter, but that idea came to me when I already shipped the Sledges back.

On the other hand, I was very pleased with the new digital interface and all new adjustments which came with it.

In other words: if everything seems fine to you when you turn the power on, you'll love the new amp.

Originally Posted by LeoB

If you don't hear the noise two feet away from the sub that's fine! In my case the noise is limited to the same distance with the BASH amp, but with the Sledge I could hear it from 14 feet away over the noise of my HTPC and plasma TV (muted) running at the same time. Buy the way, the noise I'm talking about is independent of the gain control.