Official SVS Ultra 13 thread - Page 327

I'm not sure if you were joking or not, but if you weren't, I'd be genuinely interested if you were to perform the blind test above if you'd really notice a difference. Not trying to be a monster at all actually, nor was I insulted. Just curious.

This is a joke, right? That cable costs MORE then I paid for any of my PB13s'!

If I paid $1600 for this cable, I would also convince myself there was some sort of difference so I could live with what I had done.

Not buying it (literally and figuratively).

this reminds me of the beauty product commercials where they use science so advanced that scientists don't know anything about it.

for all the exotic science incorporated in those miracle products, buyers must pay the (high) price.

that kind of science makes "perfect" women, and very rich charlatans.
the "dumb blonde" is alive and well, as always.

sorry about the OT, i could not resist. ;-)

If "science will prove whatever it tries" is your point of view ya oughta google the scientific method. Or maybe the drug companies would like you to work for the FDA. No sense spending millions of dollars on research into efficacy and safety. Sell it now!! Whee! The stock markets would just love it.

Really all a power cord can potentially do is a little bit of power conditioning. As Bob Lee from QSC has stated (IIRC) on these boards, if whatever an outboard power conditioning device does can improve the performance of an amplification device, the amplification device is poorly designed. Period. There is no magical conditioning that can occur in that wire that could not be performed by appropriate components that are actually aimed at doing the job, designed into the device itself.

I snagged one of the American cherry ultras they are discounting. Upgrading from my sb13-plus. I couldnt pass it up. It's going in my basement (3400^ft) once its done. Will be in my 1800^ft living room till then!

I don't think bass excavator was joking, he runs on "faith";
check his signature.
That's the reason he "believes" the power cord makes a difference.
"Beliefs" are resistant to any antibiotics, and so the believers should be left alone.

P.S.:check on that power cord here:http://www.nordost.com/35/odin-supre...nce-power-cord
where it says: "...all because the power on which your system depends is cleaner and arriving quicker."

WOW! the impossible has been achieved:the electricity in that power cord now travels faster than the speed of light;
which means that electricity arrives at destination (your component) before it has entered your power cable.
We could say that, in a sense, the power cable is a light accelerator.

bass excavator, you say:"Lots of scientific data lately" but you don't give us any links to that research;
and also you say:"Science doesn't come into play here. Science will prove or disprove whatever it tries". So, which is right and which is wrong?
You also say:"Reasons for expensive powercord? definition, legibility, and transparency. Is it ok in that order?"
You should do another kind of test, this will help you to identify which cable is best: disconnect all your speakers except the sub,
and then play some bass heavy music. Listen closely at the definition, legibility, and transparency of the sound you hear;
then report back your findings to us. It should be quite easy to do as deep bass sounds are usually not very complex.

You also say: "I feel it has credibility but you have to spend money".
Does what you write here and elsewhere mean you decide everything you do or buy on hunches?

Come again?

What my faith entails has nothing to do with anything regarding AVS. I am not sure where you take my signature and pull AVS jargon on this. If you are faithless then that will be your problem not mine.

This was a joke! Your last comment is your philosophy. If one believes in God or not that is their business but cheapening oneself to bring discussions on electrical conductivity into the mix makes low level or no level sense.

I will leave you to your little life Gellidus.


Wow! All because of a powercord.

Where did you say it was a joke?


You say: "If you are faithless then that will be your problem not mine".
I don't see why or how to be faithless would be a problem.
How do you know whether i'm faithless or not?

Then why do you express your faith part of your AVS signature? If you want your faith left out of anything regarding AVS (and I agree that it should be left out), then it shouldn't be included in your AVS signature, right?

I was wondering if anyone can compare the Paradigm DSP 3200/DSP3400 Subs to the SVS PB13-Ultra?? I have the Paradigm DSP3400 up front and the 3200 in the back and was wondering if there is a huge improvement from my current setup to say selling the 3200, moving the 3400 to the back and putting a SVS Ultra up to the front sound-stage??????? Would it be worth the $ to do so?? Any info greatly appreciated!

What would you guys choose? I have the Paradigm DSP-3400 and 3200 but selling the 3200... My room is about 3000 cubic feet and its mostly for movies with gaming and some music!.....I like dual subs but I know your not supposed to mismatch subs and why I am curious on the selections. I want something that will last a very long time!

1 - Buy a SVS PB13-Ultra up front with the 3400 in the back = around $2000
2 - sell both 3400,3200 and get 2 SVS PB12-Plus's = about $3000
3 - Sell both and get 2 HSU VTF-15H's = give or take $2600-$2800 since I live in Canada

Question - Would 1 SVS PB13-Ultra beat out 2 HSU VTF-15H's?????

Are there other rooms connected to it through open doors?

Yeah it is open the back left to another room and a hallway to the stairs

then i would sell the subs you already have and get 2 of

either the PB12 plus or the PB13 Ultra.

 

the PB13 Ultra will give you more headroom than the smaller PB12-plus.

 

my HT room (1300 cu. ft.), and the kitchen, makes for a total of about 3000 cu.ft, and i have 1 x PC12-Plus tuned to 11 Hz and

even when playing movies like WOTW at Reference Level, i have lots of headroom left. i listen at a distance of about 6 ft from the

front speakers and 9 ft from the sub.

also, i run the sub 3 dB hot to make the frequency response flat and to blend well with the towers.

 

check the link in my signature.

Edited by Gellidius - 6/9/12 at 2:14pm

Wouldn't 2 Ultras be way too much for my room??? 1 would be enough no??? I'm thinking I want the flagship of what SVS offers!

There's no such thing as to much bass. You'll be happier with 2 PB13's, and the extra headroom and placement you can have with 2 will make you very happy.

jindrak said, there's never too much bass, but i say there's never too much power.

 

"too much bass" means the frequency response is not flat and the bass is too much for the program you're listening to; 

good sound needs good balance, octave to octave.

 

i agree that two PB13 Ultras would be perfect for you, but two PB12-Plus could also be perfect for you.

Edited by Gellidius - 6/11/12 at 8:42am

X2!!!!!!

I bought 2, and if I had more room i'd buy 2 more!!!

X3

Ray
Edited by darthray - 6/10/12 at 2:39pm

Your statement would be true if you had absolutely no desire to hear other frequencies with clarity, which would make for a very poor audio expirence.

Wondering how big you room is with 2 Ultras now??? My room is about 3000 cubic feet and thinking of adding a Ultra with my Paradigm DSP-3400 in the back! Wondering if its a good idea and also if I should pull the trigger.....just having 2 diff subs is holding me back!! Seems like it might be an issue after reading some of the comments/forums on here.

Hi everyone - Found the thread after reading about the SVS PB 13 Ultra. Like some others I found a deal on the outlet portion of their site and I have the natural oak PB13 being delivered tomorrow.

Since my room is 2200 sq feet and opens up to the rest of the house via the split level config, I figured the PB13 would be up for the challenge.

Ill set it up tomorrow while the wife is at work and see what this puppy can do.

Ill let you know what I think

Was wondering what you guys recommend or use on your PB13-Ultra.....16hz(1 port blocked) mode or the 20hz(no ports blocked) and why??

I personally like 20hz better. Bass feels stronger and clearer.

Just all a matter of taste really.

I prefer 15hz overall, but you should experiment and see what you like best and what works best in your room.

So does this mean you placed an order?

Maybe..... It was a hard decision and spending the money on another sub but I want the best SVS has to offer!

You should read up on the Earl Geddes approach to multiple sub set up. Using dissimiliar subs is not discouraged.

Where can I find this info?

Was wondering what you guys use for your settings/setup on your Sledge Ultra's since I will be getting mine soon and any info is greatly appreciated. What do you exactly have to set using that white digital knob??? Thanks