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post #9991 of 10036
Popping noise heard on very low frequencies.....most movies ok thruout but that one sub 20hz boom and "pop"!

Spider separating was what I was told it was.....from years of running it too hot.

New driver is good, sub calibrated level with speakers.
post #9992 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Yosh70 View Post

Popping noise heard on very low frequencies.....most movies ok thruout but that one sub 20hz boom and "pop"!
Spider separating was what I was told it was.....from years of running it too hot.
New driver is good, sub calibrated level with speakers.
Ultra Driver failures are rare (so I'm told) U must really pound it.
post #9993 of 10036
Hi All,

Been hanging out in the Energy forums for a few weeks now and was considering a sub upgrade but not for many months due to the fact that I've just upgraded to an Energy RC system. Turns out Batpig found a SVS PB 10 on Kijiji near me for $150 Canadian and Neutro barked that I should "run" to get it. The audio gods smiled and I picked it up yesterday. Flowers again for the wife. The ad said mint but it wasn't. A small nick in the veneer, a couple of white smudges on the veneer and a 1/2 inch dent or crease in the driver. All works well and SVS already replied to my email and said the driver should be fine and function properly. The PB 10 makes my old energy exl s10 seem like a toy. Killed by back carrying it downstairs but the Darla test in Nemo was impressive. A fabulous upgrade and I still have some more tweaking to do.
post #9994 of 10036
Hi everyone it was suggested that i post this in this thread as well

I have recently purchased an SVS PB 13 Ultra too go with my Denon 4311, my room is 5x4 meters

The sub is place in a corner

I hooked it all up and followed the recommened settings by for SVS which is as follows

Volume -20
HIgh pass filter = Disabled
low pass filter = Disabled
Phase = 0
Hig pass delay = 0
Room compensation = Disabled
Subwoofer Tune @ 16Hz
PEQ1\PEQ2 =Disabled

I ran Audyssey on the Denon 4311

I played a few movies but one i am pretty familur with is Dark Night Rises, i found harldy any bass at the Audyssey volume level for the sub so i turned it up another 3db and still there was really not any reall slam and punch as has been discribed with this sub


Owners with the same setup could you please share your settings or tips and tricks fro this setup up


Thank you Dave
Edited by davesendor - 4/28/13 at 6:43pm
post #9995 of 10036
Have you tried to move the sub? It might be in a really bad position.

And have you tried to up it 6db.

And are you listening to good demo material? (War of the Worlds pods emerge)
post #9996 of 10036
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Originally Posted by Rob Greer View Post

Have you tried to move the sub? It might be in a really bad position.

And have you tried to up it 6db.

And are you listening to good demo material? (War of the Worlds pods emerge)

Hi

I have the sub placed where my past was which worked really well
I have raised the level by about 5db
i will try WOW pods, i have been using Cloverfield
post #9997 of 10036
Cloverfield is a good test disc. If you have Skyfall, the bombing of MI6 and the train derailment are good scenes to play to test your sub. Live Free or Die Hard is another disc I use to give my sub a workout.
post #9998 of 10036
Can someone that has a PC13 tell me what the leg length is between the base plate and the bottom of the tube is? I am trying to build one and want to know what the dimension is.

Thanks.
post #9999 of 10036
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Originally Posted by CrocDoc View Post

Can someone that has a PC13 tell me what the leg length is between the base plate and the bottom of the tube is? I am trying to build one and want to know what the dimension is.

Thanks.

Anyone with a PC13 and a tape measure? Please….
post #10000 of 10036
From top of base plate to bottom of tube is 1 3/4 inches.

Glenn
post #10001 of 10036
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Originally Posted by greyflag View Post

From top of base plate to bottom of tube is 1 3/4 inches.

Glenn

That's what I needed. Thanks Glenn
post #10002 of 10036
Sorry I should have posted this message in this thread than the main SVS general thread, I didn't know this one was here.


Anyone here have four SB13-Ultras in their HT room?
I have four arriving and very much looking forward to auditioning them.
I've read so many good things about them on these threads and all the reviews are outstanding!
I'm new to SVS, and when my four SB13-Ultras arrive and install them, that will be the first time I've ever heard an SVS sub.

Who here has four of the SB13-Ultras in their HT room and what are your thoughts over just one or two?
What placement have you decided on?
post #10003 of 10036
Sorry, just two here... one in each front corner. I'm pretty pleased with this setup, I couldn't imagine have two more in my room. The ones I have scare the crap out of me, and never seem to run out of steam.
post #10004 of 10036
Quote:
Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

Cloverfield is a good test disc. If you have Skyfall, the bombing of MI6 and the train derailment are good scenes to play to test your sub. Live Free or Die Hard is another disc I use to give my sub a workout.

I like using the opening scene of Prometheus for both audio and video.
post #10005 of 10036
Quote:
Originally Posted by davesendor View Post

Hi everyone it was suggested that i post this in this thread as well

I have recently purchased an SVS PB 13 Ultra too go with my Denon 4311, my room is 5x4 meters

The sub is place in a corner

I hooked it all up and followed the recommened settings by for SVS which is as follows

Volume -20
HIgh pass filter = Disabled
low pass filter = Disabled
Phase = 0
Hig pass delay = 0
Room compensation = Disabled
Subwoofer Tune @ 16Hz
PEQ1\PEQ2 =Disabled

I ran Audyssey on the Denon 4311

I played a few movies but one i am pretty familur with is Dark Night Rises, i found harldy any bass at the Audyssey volume level for the sub so i turned it up another 3db and still there was really not any reall slam and punch as has been discribed with this sub


Owners with the same setup could you please share your settings or tips and tricks fro this setup up


Thank you Dave

I have the Denon 4311 and two subs the SVS PC-13 Ultra and SVS SB-13 Ultra. My volume on the PC-13 is set to -30 and the volume on the SB-13 is set to -18. The denon had me set it to this in the Subwoofer level match and if I try to run Audyssey with them at a higher volume I get a Subwoofer level error message. After Audyssey xt32 finished it setup the PC-13 to -6.0db and SB-13 to -5.0db. I added 3db to run it a little hotter. The PC-13 is tune @16Hz with one port blocked. Other settings I did were to set all speakers to small with the crossover set 60-110 Hz. Turn Dynamic Volume off when you want to give it a good test. Also I agree with moving the sub can make a big different. I move my PC-13 6" further away from the wall and it helped with the bass. When playing a movie with some good bass if I turn it up on the denon to close to 0db, the bass will be felt in my chair.
post #10006 of 10036
As a new owner of SVS PB-13 Ultra. it shook my movie room last night. I knew from reading that it's powerful.
but I didn't anticipate another part of the house; photo frames / drywall ceiling / windows frame. they were shaking while the movie played.
at the moment i assume my room cannot accommodate more than one PB-13 ultra.
my wife said she couldn't handle any more bass. it made she feel uncomfortable. we had velodyne cht-12 II series .(I think the model is correct)
The rest is to optimize this sub to work at its peak performance.

I set SVS PB-13 back to its original setting and let the Audyssey XT 32 handle all the calibrations

SVS -->
Phase - 0"
High pass & Low Pass disabled.
Room compensation disabled.
Room mode 20Hz all ports opened.
PEQ disabled
Volume set at 75dB as Audyssey pointed out.

Onkyo setting.
LFE --> 120
All speakers --> Small
THX disable

is there any more tricks to optimize the SVS?
will inserting 3 foam plugs make it sound tight and quick like JL fathom 113?
post #10007 of 10036
Really considering this sub here guys to go with my DT 8060s however it is a pretty penny and want to make the correct choice. The towers have 300 watt subs in them so I was curious if I could move this sub towards the rear of the room to bring the bass out more if this is even necessary or just leave it in front of the tv since it will be the only standalone sub? Also will 1 of the produce enough bass to feel it in your chest in a 24x17 room?
post #10008 of 10036
I have a PB12-Plus/2 which I am sure I have read is similar in output/depth to an Ultra 13, and that does very well in a 20x14 room smile.gif so I would imagine the Ultra 13 in your room would do alright!

The best way to to find the best location for it would be to put it in the seating position then do 'the sub crawl' round the room, as I understand it, so you can find the point where it is loudest. Then you can put the sub in that position smile.gif


(I may be wrong, of course biggrin.gif lol)
post #10009 of 10036
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Originally Posted by MemX View Post

I have a PB12-Plus/2 which I am sure I have read is similar in output/depth to an Ultra 13, and that does very well in a 20x14 room smile.gif so I would imagine the Ultra 13 in your room would do alright!

The best way to to find the best location for it would be to put it in the seating position then do 'the sub crawl' round the room, as I understand it, so you can find the point where it is loudest. Then you can put the sub in that position smile.gif


(I may be wrong, of course biggrin.gif lol)
It takes about 2 of those old pb+12/2 to match one ultra 13.
post #10010 of 10036
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

It takes about 2 of those old pb+12/2 to match one ultra 13.
Really?! Blimey... eek.gif
post #10011 of 10036
4 pc ultra 13's here.eek.gif
post #10012 of 10036
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Originally Posted by rampage123 View Post

4 pc ultra 13's here.eek.gif

wow, do you use them as ceiling support colums in your listening room as well? smile.gif

impressive...
post #10013 of 10036
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Originally Posted by rampage123 View Post

4 pc ultra 13's here.eek.gif

Hey Rampage123,how have you been? What ever happened to your blower speaker/amp you had? What it replaced under warranty?
post #10014 of 10036

one PC12 Plus and one PC13 Ultra here, in a 9 x 9 x 16 ft. room with a narrow door (30 ins.) to the kitchen, for a total of  approx. 3000 cu. ft.

 

first i bought the 12, but found the sound not quite to my liking when reproducing peaks in movies like WOTW,

so i bought the 13 Ultra to supplement it.

 

now i have first rate SQ and they seem to be loafing all the time.

Freq. Resp. is flat down to 10 Hz.

 

once, i cracked open a bedroom door before listening to WOTW, and at the end of the movie,

the door was open a full 18 inches...


Edited by Gellidius - 5/18/13 at 9:24am
post #10015 of 10036
Quote:
Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

Sorry I should have posted this message in this thread than the main SVS general thread, I didn't know this one was here.


Anyone here have four SB13-Ultras in their HT room?
I have four arriving and very much looking forward to auditioning them.
I've read so many good things about them on these threads and all the reviews are outstanding!
I'm new to SVS, and when my four SB13-Ultras arrive and install them, that will be the first time I've ever heard an SVS sub.

Who here has four of the SB13-Ultras in their HT room and what are your thoughts over just one or two?
What placement have you decided on?

I got 2 PB Ultra13.
You folks with 4 are maniac, but honestly in my room (11x18x8ft) I was told one was more then enough. But I still bought 2, and would have bought 4 if the room was bigger.
More the better:)
Mine are in the front, one of each side of the center speaker.

Ray
post #10016 of 10036
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gellidius View Post

one PC12 Plus and one PC13 Ultra here, in a 9 x 9 x 16 ft. room with a narrow door (30 ins.) to the kitchen, for a total of  approx. 3000 cu. ft.

first i bought the 12, but found the sound not quite to my liking when reproducing peaks in movies like WOTW,
so i bought the 13 Ultra to supplement it.

now i have first rate SQ and they seem to be loafing all the time.
Freq. Resp. is flat down to 10 Hz.

once, i cracked open a bedroom door before listening to WOTW, and at the end of the movie,
the door was open a full 18 inches...

What did you do to make the FR flat down to 10 Hz? I have a PB 13ULTRA and so far I can get it to flat response down to around 18 or 16Hz. Any tip?
post #10017 of 10036
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Originally Posted by SARHENTO View Post

What did you do to make the FR flat down to 10 Hz? I have a PB 13ULTRA and so far I can get it to flat response down to around 18 or 16Hz. Any tip?

I would be willing to bet most people who claim they are flat to 10hz, haven't actually measured their FR. Of those who have, I bet they are nowhere near reference. wink.gif

Unless your HT is in a phone booth, or you benefit from crazy room gain, there is very little chance of being flat (at reference) to 10hz. Room treatments are going to play a large role in this area though regardless of output.
post #10018 of 10036

Sarhento and Bass addict, first, you should check my signature in order to have some info on my installation.

check this one first: http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Gelli

 

Once there, you'll see a chart showing a Hz by Hz Frequency Response made at the MLP.

the measurements were done exactly where my ears are positioned, which is the same i used

for Audyssey calibration.

i don't know exactly what makes the response so strong below 16 Hz. 

it is most probably caused by many factors.

the measuring instrument i used has a flat Fr. response setting); meaning

no low frequency attenuation in the measurements.

 

one thing that isn't told is that the smaller sub is tuned at 16 Hz

and the larger one at 10 Hz:

for a given signal, the output of the smaller sub has been decreased to compensate

for it's lower max. output capability, in order that when both subs are driven hard,

the smaller one is not overloaded.  i tuned for a difference of about 5 dB between the two.

 

i've tuned the 13-U like this: 

2 ports blocked;

filter set at "sealed".

in the AVR config, after Audyssey calibration, the subs are set to play 3 dB hot, for a flat-to-the-ear response.

 

playing the loudest movies at reference level or Cameron Carpenter's Revolutionary on SACD, i never hear port chuffing from

the subs, and no distortion that i can hear.

 

before tuning this way, i asked Jack Gilvey for his opinion about this way of doing it,

and he answered: "I’d go with a 3-4 dB difference between the two as the PC13-Ultra will have at least that much advantage. Should be an outstanding setup!  :)".


Edited by Gellidius - 5/19/13 at 9:27am
post #10019 of 10036
Here's a graph of what my SB13-Ultra can do taken from my LP. It was supposed to say Dynamic EQ on.

post #10020 of 10036

hyrlyfrm, that looks very good, 10 Hz at around -3 db. at around 98 dBSPL.

how does it sound with movies playing at Ref. Level ?

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