New DVDO iScan VP50PRO - Page 76

[quote=John P.;12916600](Sorry if this question is redundant, but) using Barry's utility, or Tera Term?
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Tera Term.
Maybe it's not a big deal if you have an RS232 capable PC in the house, but bear in mind you might find the scaler inoperable and forever "waiting for file..." until you connect through RS232.
And remember to write down the required port settings etc. as outlined in the DVDO documentation if you ARE going to use some converter...

I send it native from my directtv box and comedy central comes in 480i, so I think it already does that.

I input 480i from my cable box and occasionally from my A35 HD-DVD player with no problem.

What FW are you running? What devices are giving you trouble? Have you discussed with Aaron at DVDO?

From the Sr. Applications & Technical Support Representative: "For the HD audio, this is an issue that we are aware of. We are currently working on and planning on correcting the HD audio support. As of right now, there is no timeline/release date that is available. I can assure you that our engineering team is working diligently on this issue and this remains one of our top priorities."

Your post is the first mention I've heard of 480i over HDMI.

I get 480i from Oppo 970HD via HDMI without any video issues. Only issue is with audio via HDMI.

Just to clarify my issues, this is not occuring on all sources just my DVD player. I'm running 1.02 firmware.

I've got 3 HDMI sources:

Comcast/Motorola Cable: 480i is fine
Toshiba HD-A3: 480i is fine
Marantz DV-9600: 480i is not working. The output is pixelated/choppy.

FWIW, I use component from my Denon 3910 to feed 480i to me VP50Pro. The "lowest" its HDMI will go is 480p, and I prefer to have the vid proc do both deinterlacing and scaling.

I assume you have tried mutiple HDMI inputs and had the same problem. If so the finger is pointed at the Marantz not the VP50Pro

What does the info screen show?

Have you tried 480P with PReP turned on?

I've tried multiple inputs and I'm not ready to point the finger at the Marantz because the player has worked with the VP30, VP50, and Anthem D2 w/ no problems. If I use 480P with PReP it works fine but I'd like to avoid that and keep the processing to a minimum and keep the signal as pure as I can. After all , isn't that the biggest reason for owning a piece of equipment at this price point.

Thanks for the replies.

I use 480i 4:2:2 HDMI into the Vp50pro everyday, 576i works perfect as well

do you get the green light on the front panel?

-Gary

dude, send 480p via HDMI and use prep, pq will be miles better than analog component which is going thru many a/d d/a and other conversions

the prep function on the vp50pro works perfect with 480p sources, you get the original 480i image and then deinterlacing, scaling etc. is applied

-Gary

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you can use it mounted up or down, mine is mounted down so you have the drawer depth

most laptops will fit in the 1u sized drawer this gives you

-Gary

I think Gary is suggesting that 480P with PReP turned on over HDMI as being better than 480i over component. Try it and see what you think

yes and as soon as i turned my computer off i realized the depth of my idiocy and ran to another computer to delete the post . . .

I will take his (and your) suggestion. Thanks!

Oops Sorry for the quote then

okay need help with updating firmware; got the hard part, all the software stuff sorted. But, the usb to serial port cord I bought from the dvdo web site does not want to seem to fit into the dvdo port. The cord is a male and the port is a female, but on both the cord and dvdo, the bits on either side of the actual port, both want to accept threads.

Net, I can't get the dvdo hooked into the serial port cord. Am I missing something or what.

I think you need a serial cable as well. The device you have is not intended to be direcly connected to the unit

yes you need a serial cable between the converter and the pro

-Gary

There is an issue handshaking with some hdmi sources: mine is a sat receiver outputting hd/sd 1080i/576i.
I concur the VP30 had no problems with same hdmi source.
Aaron @ DVDO is aware and the techies are working on it.
Ask him, he might have a beta to try (didn't work for me though).
Ordered an hdmi repeater from HongKong at only 9.89 GBP, 3 inputs and reclocks and output adheres to full hdmi specs (so they say ).

As to PPreP:
although I understand your preferring fewer steps, I can tell you the pic with it (for 576p) is notably better than without it. But sure, best is 480i/576i.

You can buy a standard 9-pin rs232 m/f cord or (cheaper even) an m/m or f/f converter at any computer store.
Pse. read previous posts of me and others on the hazards of using usb/rs232 converters!
Even the one on the dvdo site has been reported not working properly !

I turned passthrough on for the first time yesterday. Seems like I can no longer get to menus on screen. Is that the correct behavior?

Best setup question for SD DVD's and movies on directtv?
I have a Samsung BP-UP800 and HR20 going through VP50Pro to Projector that accepts 24Hz. Since the movie is not stored as at 24Hz, should I send a 1080P/60 signal from VP50pro or 1080/24?

Yep - passthru means that the Pro's just sending the signal on, so no onscreen menus, no adjustments etc.

You can buy a standard 9-pin rs232 m/f cord or (cheaper even) an m/m or f/f converter at any computer store.
Pse. read previous posts of me and others on the hazards of using usb/rs232 converters!
Even the one on the dvdo site has been reported not working properly. . .

After staring at this and the insturctions; it finally made sense. Radio S to the rescue and the dvdo usb to rs232 cord and driver and some port tweaking and the serial port cable and presto was able to push the file into the dvdo and it updated. While overall I am pretty happy with the dvdo, I have had to learn way to much stuff to get this thing stabilized and working properly.

Maybe someone can shed some light on another problem I am having with the VP50Pro. Its only occurring when I watch something from the DTV box. Its a brand new box HD DVR with the native resolution output in the HD DVR set to on.

The picture running thru the VP50 has a bunch of vertical blue (against a black background) and yellow (against a lighter backbround) lines. Sometimes the lines are short dashes and sometimes they are longer.

The display is an elite pro150 with the dvdo set to output 1080p/60. It works fine on sources from a dvd. I have messed around with a bunch of settings but can't get the lines to go away except of course to switch to pass through mode.

If you read back through this thred you will see that this bug has been reported by other's on numerous occasions, If you leave the VP50pro unpluged for A while the bug should not show up unless you change your rez for that input.I found that if I set up A custom rez and stored it in the display profiles and used that custom rez for that HDMI input ammediately after,the bug would raze its ugly head....

Almost a month of owning the unit, I "discovered" the most "jaw dropping" option. That is called "Fine Detail Enhancement"

I don't know if you have already refer it before, but I put a value 60 (range is +/-100) and I couldn't believe to my eyes!

I thought that the projector was out of focus before. The difference is dramatic both in SD and HD material.

The most pleasant thing is that there are no side effects at all, such as ringing or noise. The picture remains clear and VEEEEEEEERY crisp. You have the impression that you are watching a 46" TV rather than a 120" screen! Also, I have the impression that I get a bit more contrast/dynamic range. Pause a scene with stars e.x. the opening of Star wars III and check the lighting of the stars. With Fine Detail enhancement the stars become more dynamic, also more stars will become viewable without loosing the black levels.

I know, shame on me I didn't find it earlier...

Try out guys !

Gary,

Are you suggesting that we should try other colorspaces (4:4:4, RGB, 4:2:2 etc) when we are unable to get 480/576i HDMI to work?

As mentioned before I have a Tvix 5100Sh that will not work in 480/576i nor auto EDID (gives me VGA now, but did 1080i before). Just the green light. It did work for a few days on my old VP30, but never again after that. Passthru does not work either. So I have to do 480/576p with Prep.
Tried with a different 480/576i HDMI source, worked fine. The tvix by itself do work to my PJ using 480/576i HDMI.
Handshaking issue?
No biggie, but it is irritating...

At times I lose HDMI lock between the VP50pro and a directtv HR20. I haven't found a good way to tell them to communicate again. Sometimes I need to power off and restart. Is there a better way?

Normally switching to another hdmi input, waiting a second or so, and then switching back gets it to find the sync. I've got a button programmed on my remote to do that cycle (after a suggestion from barend) and that seems to fix it most of the time.