Hands On with the BD-UP5000 BLu-Ray/HD-DVD Reon Player- - Page 5

I'm not sure it's as simple as that, though I agree that's what it sounds like. The PS3 has an HDMI 1.3 chip as well, but that particular chipset (used in PS3) doesn't support streaming of lossless bitstreams. Be nice to see it confirmed one way or the other.

BD1.1 has nothing to do with whether it will pass bitstream HD audio. The player simply needs fully functional HDMI V1.3 and a properly authored HD disc.


From the specs, it is a complete player. BD1.1 will add mainly interactivity functions on BD discs. If that's critical, I guess you'd want to wait, but there's probably BD1.2 around the corner....

The problem is that without bitstream enabled via proper disc authoring, we may not be able to tell for some time.

Up to now, all HDDVD's have been "advance" authored, which doesn't allow it. I'm not certain about BD's.

I *think* all BD's thus far allow outboard decode; but that may be changing once the new profiles are out.

I know 1.1 has nothing to do with HBR. I spoke with a sammy higher up about that statement in the PDF and he could NOT confirm whether it will pass HBR or not. That statement leaves plenty open to interpretaion...

At least companies like Onkyo and Toshiba come right out and say it...

I really dont care about the 1.1

I just want the darn DF machine now! I am bursting at the seams to get HD discs in my setup!

I can't find it on amazon for pre-order. How much is this damn thing. I had an A20 and like it, but sent it back to wait this mess out. I like movies from both sides, the north and the south. Anyways, if this thing is around the $500.00 mark, i'll buy it on the spot.

MSRP 1049, IIRC. Remains to be seen what it will street at; but my guess around $800.

It'll probably develop into a price war with LG.

Althought we might not be interested in an LG, it suits our need that there is somebody else out there is competing with Samsung.

These things still aren't cheap to build and the Reon certainly doesn't help the price. However, if it streets for $800, it's a very good value especially considering it has Reon and analog outputs for lossless audio although I'm still trying to confirm it will pass TrueHD that way.

My receiver is less than two years old, but doesn't have HDMI, so the analog really appeals to me. In addition, my PS3 and HD-A2 just isn't the same for DVD as the Reon chipset. (I used to have a Denon 2930 with the Reon.) I'm thinking I could sell my PS3 and A2 for $400-500 total which means "upgrading" to the Samsung for only a few hundred - and, obviously, the convenience of ONE player for everything.

So........another 6 months to a year for the dual formats to drop to the $500. mark or below? What do you folks think? Considering that my personal opinion is that the trenches have been dug and no one has a tank to end this stalemate.

Once these players get down to around $500 I'll have to get one to play my expanding HDM collection in the bedroom. If Samsung keeps this up they will take over the mid/high end player market - leaving only a small niche for Denon at the ultra-high end. I can see Sony and Toshiba sitting on the sidelines paralyzed and in total disbelief as this happens. You would think that Panasonic and Pioneer would not sit still, but hard to say.

I found it at a reputable Dealer (not sure if its ok to post the name...heres a hint all you have to do is "call")

Listed at 999.99

is the model number listed Samsung BD-UP5000/XAA

here are a few more again I am not sure about posting the names of the retailers I remember there used to be a rule against it...So I am going to blank out some of the letters

A**Elect****** Samsung BD-UP5000/XAA 949.00 (with special 5% discount)



at 1K its not worth it take another 200 or more off and then I can consider this...Its still early though and these prices may drop by the time we actually get closer to the release date.

The new Samsung dual player was shown in Berlin yesterday. The rumor is for a much lower price than we thought.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/07...0euro_blu-ray/

If the price of 400 euros or about $499 US is correct could you imagine how many units they will sell.

This alone could end the war.

According to the currency converter I used (1.37 dollars/euro) that's actually about 550.00 but still very reasonable.

I don't think this player would end the war though. It sure makes it easier for consumers to deal with, however.

If that price proves true, then this is my next HDM machine. I think Sony, Toshiba, and everyone else should just build dual format players and share in the royalties. This war sucks.

I still think a dual player will only be considered by early adopters, people buying brand new TV's, and people with a lot of money.
IMO, I think the "average Joe" will still wait on the fence. They are more likely to wait until they can get a high def player for under $200.
For me, this will be Very tempting if it's under $500. However, I will still wait until next year.

No I agree with people saying this war is a good thing. Come on now, the states is known for the free enterprise economy, without competition, the Samsung player might cost more than the new Denon BD player coming out. Think about it.

So good thing I canceled my pre order of 800 fot it then! There may be a chance it comes in waaaay cheaper!

Even though I am only interested in the 2400 now.....

My guess is this is based on the same erroneous info that the last round of rumors for this piece were; a premium over the BD standalone rather than the whole price. Be nice to be wrong, though.

The Samsung IFA presskit (in German) states €999, http://presse.samsung.de/press_press...?cn=PresseNavi

You find it by downloading " Samsung Unterhaltungselektronik
Pressemeldungen als .zip (15,5 MB)".

Joe - I'm sure your retailer would have passed down
any LOWER PRICE if it materialized.

Most likely not. They had already charged my card a couple of days ago! The charge is still on it even after they said they would not until it was being shipped. That is the main reason I canceled form them. That and with the XA2 upgrades I may just try the 2400 and do a good A/B with the Pioneer 94HD...

IT IS 100% Illegal for ANYONE to charge a card on
something they CAN NOT SHIP.

The only thing they can do is authorize the Charge.
They only have the right to make sure your card
is NOT RUBBER.

Looks like the abt spec sheet was bang on. Both HD DVD and BR at 1080p/24 The only point that needs confirmation is MA upgradability. If confirmed I'm definitely on this if it streets for $800.

Isn't US Currency about double the Euro, not really that important, but that's what i thought.

The dollar is taking a beating almost everywhere. Currently 1-USD=0.73-EUR

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

Its about 1.35 Dollars to a pound. The EU price will include approximately 20% tax too.

We generally get ripped off somewhat on top of the difference above (Say 20%).

Point is USA retail would likely be $900-1000