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post #2281 of 5489
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Originally Posted by jlkumar View Post

I have a history with this. I bought a 46xbr4 from CC and the picture was damn good. But the fan noise was a bit annoying and I thought I would try another piece to see if it was any better. Unfortunately the new one that I got a couple of days back has the same noise which I believe cannot be avoided.

I played oceans13 on my BD player last night (which btw was the first test to this new set) and I couldn't stand the noisy grains on the screen. It got me really concerned whether I gave away my good one for a junky. I am yet to try other movies.

If someone else had similar experience, please share.

Thnx,
Jay

yeah, i also notice a lot of grainy noise.
though they completely disappear when i play videogames or watch cartoons(includes pixar films). So im thinking its from the source.

i noticed the noise arent that noticeable if I lower the brightness a bit.
post #2282 of 5489
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Originally Posted by bkdds View Post

Another movie you want to test your tv out with is "WE ARE MARSHALL".

I've seen pixelation while watching the action filled game scenes.

In my case, this may have been due to the satellite signal quality. But check it out to see how your set handles fast action with this one.

If you were watching WAM on HBO HD, the macroblocking was terrible for me. My provider is Comcast and others have noticed it too on the same movie either sat. or cable. I wish I had fios as an option, but that may never happen.
post #2283 of 5489
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Originally Posted by lrstevens421 View Post

Ok guys, I would like to wish you all the best of luck with your XBR's. This thread is in good hands, thanks to all who have contributed and made this thread informative and enjoyable. Happy tweaking .

Larone

This might be my first, but I have been here on the forum for a good while. To find out today your gone was a shock. Like many have said you have been a Life Savor to many readers.
I'm sure we all wish you the best & will see you soon.
post #2284 of 5489
try watching it on blu or hddvd. never use cable as a reference, the hd is not going to look as good as an independent blu/hd player. we comcast hd on both crt and the lcd xbr4. the "tiles" show up on both.
post #2285 of 5489
Hello good people. Thanks for the answers to questions i have had, but had already been asked. I am curious if anyone has this issue... When i set my 52xbr4 to full pixel in the display area and have my wide mode set at full or normal i can see a thin green vertical line just on the left side. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #2286 of 5489
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Originally Posted by SacredENA View Post

Anyone using a Scientific Atlanta 8300HDC via Time Warner Cable in NYC? This box when connected via HDMI will NOT allow you to change the resolution. It stays stuck at 1080i and all the other resolutions are greyed out.

I think if you power down then go to the box and hold 'guide' and 'info' that should bring up the initial HD setting screen.
post #2287 of 5489
Why don't I see any of these in my menu.

.....Sharpness: 55
Noise Reduc: Low
Black Corrector: Off
Advanced CE: Medium
Gamma: Low
Clear White: Off
Color Space: Standard
Live Color: Off
WHITE BALANCE:

Red Gain: -3
Green Gain: -5
Blue Gain: 0
Red Bias: -2
Green Bias: -1
Blue Bias: 0

Detail Enhancer: Low
Edge Enhancer: High.......


I have a 46XBR5 with SD cable straight into the set (no box). The tv tunes in the local affiliates hi-def material like Letterman, House and the Superbowl. Where are all these options ? HELP

Scotty
post #2288 of 5489
In the "picture" menu....the last option is "advanced settings"....select that and those options will appear.

Unless you are using the "vivid" settings...in which case, those options are unnavailalbe. Go with Cinema or Standard instead.
post #2289 of 5489
i am terribly worried about my huge investment...please share any knowledge:
i recently purchased a 46 xbr4 and have had it for about a week now. While watching channel "my9" on 9.1, i noticed what looks like a small 1 cm horizontal line that comes and goes. I also have directv on video 1 and i don't see it on any of the directv channels, nor is it on any of the other ota hd channels i get (2.1, 4.1 etc). Ive read about dead pixels on this site and wonder if the criteria is that the pixels are consistently discolored? if so, is that the "diagnosis"...or is it normal for diff channels to have diff imperfections, especially when using ota? any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #2290 of 5489
Thanks very much for re-posting the settings Sweetvar26!

One more question. I just hooked up my laptop to my 52xbr4 with HD15 cables. It works fine but my full screen pc image turns into a fairly small piece of real estate on the xbr. Is there any way to increase the size on the TV. I use a 1280 X 1024 resolution which is supported by both the laptop and the TV.
post #2291 of 5489
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Originally Posted by acp7399 View Post

i am terribly worried about my huge investment...please share any knowledge:
i recently purchased a 46 xbr4 and have had it for about a week now. While watching channel "my9" on 9.1, i noticed what looks like a small 1 cm horizontal line that comes and goes. I also have directv on video 1 and i don't see it on any of the directv channels, nor is it on any of the other ota hd channels i get (2.1, 4.1 etc). Ive read about dead pixels on this site and wonder if the criteria is that the pixels are consistently discolored? if so, is that the "diagnosis"...or is it normal for diff channels to have diff imperfections, especially when using ota? any help would be greatly appreciated.

wow.. i'm sort of glad you posted.. i got my 52 XBR4 2 weeks ago. i noticed the exact same thing on MY9HD channel. the line is almost in the middle near the top of the screen. i inspected it and inspected other channels and don't see this imperfection on any other broadcast channels.. i'm wondering if it the actual broadcast that is broadcasting this line..
post #2292 of 5489
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Originally Posted by u1704141 View Post

wow.. i'm sort of glad you posted.. i got my 52 XBR4 2 weeks ago. i noticed the exact same thing on MY9HD channel. the line is almost in the middle near the top of the screen. i inspected it and inspected other channels and don't see this imperfection on any other broadcast channels.. i'm wondering if it the actual broadcast that is broadcasting this line..


Me 2 - It's not the set.

A_C
post #2293 of 5489
It's not the set...I have it on one SD channel only (Nickelodeon) on Tampa, FL Brighthouse networks. I panicked at first but after looking at ALL of the other SD channels in both analog and digital, HD channels and HDDVD, it is definitely ONLY on that one channel. I'm absolutely positive it's has something to do with that particular analog broadcast.

No worries!
post #2294 of 5489
i'm still confused on how my cablevision HD box Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4250HD should be configured. in the setup wizard, it gives me these options: 1080i, 720p, 480p widescreen, 480i widescreen, 480p standard, 480i standard.

I'm thinking that i should only select 1080i and 720p. then on the normal (1st setup) screen hit either 1080i or 720p depending on what station is being broadcasted.

can anyone offer advise on how they have their box set to?

when I select all those setup options, it gets to be annoying seeing the screens change formats when i surf.. am i making any sense?


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Originally Posted by Agent_C View Post

Me 2 - It's not the set.

A_C
post #2295 of 5489
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Originally Posted by scoddee View Post

Why don't I see any of these in my menu.

.....Sharpness: 55
Noise Reduc: Low
Black Corrector: Off
Advanced CE: Medium
Gamma: Low
Clear White: Off
Color Space: Standard
Live Color: Off
WHITE BALANCE:

Red Gain: -3
Green Gain: -5
Blue Gain: 0
Red Bias: -2
Green Bias: -1
Blue Bias: 0

Detail Enhancer: Low
Edge Enhancer: High.......


I have a 46XBR5 with SD cable straight into the set (no box). The tv tunes in the local affiliates hi-def material like Letterman, House and the Superbowl. Where are all these options ? HELP

Scotty

You'll find those in advanced settings.
Go to picture, then advanced settings. Scorll down and you'll see it says White Balance, and all those others.

-TOB.
post #2296 of 5489
Just thought I would share some new observations based on a few changes I have been playing with. I currently use the latest version of LRSteven's with some very minor tweaking (HDMI brightness is a few clicks down, Component brightness is a few clicks up). I am speaking striclty on HDMI 1080i cable box, and 1080i HDDVD via Component.

I've spent most of the morning comparing movies and sports with my current settings and then turning DRC Mode 1 on (at 40/60). I've gone back and forth on this...specifically on cable with Fast and the Furious TD and basketball, and then on HDDVD with Transformers. To my eye, the DRC 1 mode with a 40/60 setting absolutely improves the image across the board. I went through a number of still scenes on Transformers and tried to find something that would make me want to turn DRC off...but I did not. I need to mention that I have a 52xbr4 that has shown little or none of the problems reported by some. I did not see any motion blur with DRC on.

So after several months of being completely happy with my picture, I'm back now to doing A/B comparisons...and over and over, I'm leaning towards DRC "on". I've owned Sony's forever (back to a GWIII) and have always stayed away from DRC, but I can't seem to make a case for not using it.

I remember reading that with DRC on, the xbr4 does not decode 1080i correctly...so my question is...if it's not decoding 1080i correctly, why does it look cleaner, sharper, deeper with DRC 1 on than off for my sources? I can't find one single image where I can identify something with any distortion of any kind.

I also did some blind A/B testing and I nailed the DRC on mode every time, for each source...and it was the better image.

What am I missing in 1080i with DRC 1 on...if the image looks improved over not having it on?
post #2297 of 5489
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Originally Posted by stonewash View Post

Hello good people. Thanks for the answers to questions i have had, but had already been asked. I am curious if anyone has this issue... When i set my 52xbr4 to full pixel in the display area and have my wide mode set at full or normal i can see a thin green vertical line just on the left side. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Switch Full pixel to Normal
post #2298 of 5489
Thank you Smith, although i know normal removes the green thin vertical line i was curious as to whether anyone else has this issue and why it appears on full pixel.
post #2299 of 5489
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Originally Posted by Bduffy10 View Post

Just thought I would share some new observations based on a few changes I have been playing with. I currently use the latest version of LRSteven's with some very minor tweaking (HDMI brightness is a few clicks down, Component brightness is a few clicks up). I am speaking striclty on HDMI 1080i cable box, and 1080i HDDVD via Component.

I've spent most of the morning comparing movies and sports with my current settings and then turning DRC Mode 1 on (at 40/60). I've gone back and forth on this...specifically on cable with Fast and the Furious TD and basketball, and then on HDDVD with Transformers. To my eye, the DRC 1 mode with a 40/60 setting absolutely improves the image across the board. I went through a number of still scenes on Transformers and tried to find something that would make me want to turn DRC off...but I did not. I need to mention that I have a 52xbr4 that has shown little or none of the problems reported by some. I did not see any motion blur with DRC on.

So after several months of being completely happy with my picture, I'm back now to doing A/B comparisons...and over and over, I'm leaning towards DRC "on". I've owned Sony's forever (back to a GWIII) and have always stayed away from DRC, but I can't seem to make a case for not using it.

I remember reading that with DRC on, the xbr4 does not decode 1080i correctly...so my question is...if it's not decoding 1080i correctly, why does it look cleaner, sharper, deeper with DRC 1 on than off for my sources? I can't find one single image where I can identify something with any distortion of any kind.

I also did some blind A/B testing and I nailed the DRC on mode every time, for each source...and it was the better image.

What am I missing in 1080i with DRC 1 on...if the image looks improved over not having it on?

I tried your experiment and didn't notice much of a difference but it did resolve my thin green vertical line to the left that i had on full pixel mode. DRC mode 1 made it faint, mode 2 made it disappear! So thanks... I think lol
post #2300 of 5489
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Originally Posted by stonewash View Post

Thank you Smith, although i know normal removes the green thin vertical line i was curious as to whether anyone else has this issue and why it appears on full pixel.

My guess is it originates in the signal, I get it on some cable channels, some programs but not all. I also get a black and white, static, 1 or 2 pixel thick line across the top, mostly during commercials. Only with cable do I get these inconsistencies. To me that means it is in the signal. No worries, set at "normal" everything is fine. Maybe one day they will be more accurate with their transfer...
post #2301 of 5489
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Originally Posted by Bduffy10 View Post

Just thought I would share some new observations based on a few changes I have been playing with. I currently use the latest version of LRSteven's with some very minor tweaking (HDMI brightness is a few clicks down, Component brightness is a few clicks up). I am speaking striclty on HDMI 1080i cable box, and 1080i HDDVD via Component.

I've spent most of the morning comparing movies and sports with my current settings and then turning DRC Mode 1 on (at 40/60). I've gone back and forth on this...specifically on cable with Fast and the Furious TD and basketball, and then on HDDVD with Transformers. To my eye, the DRC 1 mode with a 40/60 setting absolutely improves the image across the board. I went through a number of still scenes on Transformers and tried to find something that would make me want to turn DRC off...but I did not. I need to mention that I have a 52xbr4 that has shown little or none of the problems reported by some. I did not see any motion blur with DRC on.

So after several months of being completely happy with my picture, I'm back now to doing A/B comparisons...and over and over, I'm leaning towards DRC "on". I've owned Sony's forever (back to a GWIII) and have always stayed away from DRC, but I can't seem to make a case for not using it.

I remember reading that with DRC on, the xbr4 does not decode 1080i correctly...so my question is...if it's not decoding 1080i correctly, why does it look cleaner, sharper, deeper with DRC 1 on than off for my sources? I can't find one single image where I can identify something with any distortion of any kind.

I also did some blind A/B testing and I nailed the DRC on mode every time, for each source...and it was the better image.

What am I missing in 1080i with DRC 1 on...if the image looks improved over not having it on?

I primarily stick close to Irstevens settings but I'm always tweaking trying new combinations in search of the Perfect picture, I'm gonna try it out, I'll let you know how it goes. I was looking at some reviews of the XBR on a Home theater website, also CNET. I cut and Pasted a paragraph out on the Home theater review and I'll give you a link to the CNET review, to long to paste. Scroll toward the performance part of the review they test the set well and pass or fail it by category, It failed a 3;2 pull down with DRC engaged, the set also didn't pass1080i film based content regardless if it is on or off, check it out for a better explanation. http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...tag=prod.txt.1

(paragraph I cut/pasted from Home theater review talks about DRC)
the CNet review is much more informative
Another feature found on the XBR4 Sony LCD TV and which seems capable of doing a respectful job is Sony's DRC or Digital Reality Creation. This Sony 1080p LCD TV uses DRC-Multi-Function version 2.5. This technology is an integral part of the BRAVIA engine and is designed both to up convert standard definition 480i and 480p content to 1080p, and also to minimize loss in interlace-to-progressive conversion when converting 1080i content to 1080p.

Regards Smitty
post #2302 of 5489
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Originally Posted by stonewash View Post

Thank you Smith, although i know normal removes the green thin vertical line i was curious as to whether anyone else has this issue and why it appears on full pixel.

yes I experience tis as well, some of the programme/signal information isn`t getting decoded completely so you get a space in the picture mapping but as tv picture is made up of lines it appears as a missing line. I would have to defer to one of the pro's here for a better explanation but full pixel is intended for BD and works on most HD feeds
post #2303 of 5489
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Originally Posted by vumcrab View Post

If you were watching WAM on HBO HD, the macroblocking was terrible for me. My provider is Comcast and others have noticed it too on the same movie either sat. or cable. I wish I had fios as an option, but that may never happen.


Yeah, fios is out of the question in my area too, unfortunately. In any case, its relieving to know this is most likely the signal and not the tv.
post #2304 of 5489
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Originally Posted by funkmonkey View Post

My guess is it originates in the signal, I get it on some cable channels, some programs but not all. I also get a black and white, static, 1 or 2 pixel thick line across the top, mostly during commercials. Only with cable do I get these inconsistencies. To me that means it is in the signal. No worries, set at "normal" everything is fine. Maybe one day they will be more accurate with their transfer...

the stuff at the top (black and white ,blinking lines,static) are from information embedded in the signal your exactley right, close caption, tickers,graphics ect. It would be hidden on a conventional 4:3 tv.
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I recently purchased a KDL-52W3000. The picture has been great for about two weeks. Four days or so ago the picture and audio started acting strange. The picture will freeze for several seconds and there will be no audio. There are also several blurry square or box shapes appearring on the screen. This problems happens randomly. Sometimes it does not occur for hours and other times it happens shortly after the TV is turned on. Does this sound like a Cable provider issue or a setting issue? I am using a Comcast box connect with componet cables.

This only happen on the HD channels. Seems more often on FOXHD. The standard channels appear to not have this issue.
post #2306 of 5489
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Originally Posted by Rick Hicks View Post

I recently purchased a KDL-52W3000. The picture has been great for about two weeks. Four days or so ago the picture and audio started acting strange. The picture will freeze for several seconds and there will be no audio. There are also several blurry square or box shapes appearring on the screen. This problems happens randomly. Sometimes it does not occur for hours and other times it happens shortly after the TV is turned on. Does this sound like a Cable provider issue or a setting issue? I am using a Comcast box connect with componet cables.

This only happen on the HD channels. Seems more often on FOXHD. The standard channels appear to not have this issue.

It would help more if you posted this in the W3000 thread, as this is the XBR4/5.
post #2307 of 5489
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Originally Posted by Rick Hicks View Post

I recently purchased a KDL-52W3000. The picture has been great for about two weeks. Four days or so ago the picture and audio started acting strange. The picture will freeze for several seconds and there will be no audio. There are also several blurry square or box shapes appearring on the screen. This problems happens randomly. Sometimes it does not occur for hours and other times it happens shortly after the TV is turned on. Does this sound like a Cable provider issue or a setting issue? I am using a Comcast box connect with componet cables.

Thats a bummer, sounds like a provider problem. Call comcast have them run a test on your line,(takes a couple of minutes ) you might need an update.I was haveing similar problems comcast ran the test found that I had a weak signal to the box,I needed new cable to the pole. that cleared everythig up for me. If thats not it Maybe you got a junk cable I a had a junk HDMI cable that I got from comcast(freebee) and my set displayed similar symptoms along with audio chirping. Possibly your cable is bad or you have a handshake problem with your component cable. Good luck !! Hope this helps
post #2308 of 5489
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Originally Posted by HD-Gaming View Post

when the firmware hits, how will I update my TV and what will it change?





anyone?
post #2309 of 5489
I tought I'd post my optimum settings I ended up with over the past month or 2 of trying out just about everyone's here.

These settings yeild jaw dropping results (well to me, anyway) on all of my HDMI sources , including my HD-A30 HD-DVD Player, Sony S300 Blu-Ray player, Xbox360 Elite. and Rogers 8300 HDPVR.

These are the only set of settings that look equally great across all of my sources

Custom

Power saving on Low (important!)
Game/text mode -on (defeats the auto-dimming which I loathe so much)

Backlight -max
Picture- 90
Birghtness -54
Color - 46
Tint -0
Color Temp- Neutral
Sharpness -64

Advanced settings

Black Corrector -low
Advanced C.E - low
Gamma - low
Clear white - off
Color space - standard
Live color -off

white balance

R gain -3
G gain -4
B gain -2
R bias 4
G bias -2
B bias 4

Detail Enhancer -low
Edge Enhancer- high

Video/Photo Optimizer- Video
Video Color Space- x.v Color
RGB Dynamic Range - auto


Try'em out and let me know what you think!

MDC
post #2310 of 5489
u1704141, bduffy and agent c....thank you so much..this almost ruined my weekend. it's exactly in the same spot that u1704141 mentioned...top right close to the middle. are there any other threads that discuss this...im surprised it's not discussed as much as the usual dead pixel/clouding/smearing/ghosting issues. Oh well...I'm going to bed feeling a lot better. cant be the set if we're getting it in the same spot on the same channel!
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