Official Samsung LNT-xx71f Owners Thread - Page 504

Thats just the reflection of the screen onto that deep framed bezel...normal and you don't see it with a dark background...correct?

I have been looking into a whole house surge protector. Would you mind PMing me with the name of the product you chose? I thought it was a bigger deal than you describe.

Im going to purchase at Circuit City store, and when I buy it, im going to tell the salesman to give me the 4071 with the latest firmware, hopefully they can help me out. Thanx again, I would be really lost if it wasnt for your help!

The 71 series does 10 bit processing on an 8 bit panel.

Be sure to bring that info Zinkie provided regarding the serial number. Believe me, CC will have no clue if you ask them for the set with the latest fw.

Lip, the panels you found yourself say they are 10bit. Why do you assume them to be 8bit? Why would a part number for a panel reference what type of processing Samsung will be using on the panel as opposed to the panel itself? In other words, if the panel part number says 10bit, that should mean the panel is 10bit, not that the processor that will be used on that panel is 10bit.

Was this confirmed? From speculation and the parts site, I thought we all believed it is a 10bit panel. Has anyone checked w Samsung on this?

it's a crapshoot

good luck

btw, personally I bought online only because they had a satisfactory return policy. I went with Amazon. (and got a 2002!!)

By now you should have a checklist with a bunch of problems already checked and many, many more blank spaces for those future problems which you are likely to find! LOL

PS Sorry stud...I couldn't help it.

the salesman will have no idea what you are talking about

go to the first post in the thread, then the FAQ and learn how to figure out when a TV is built. Then see if they will let you look at the serial numbers, and you can pick a Nov or Dec build. No guarantee, but better odds of getting a 2002.

lol, I know. I am waiting for my tv to start having the colored line problems that Zinkies and others had, and hell, I may even start imagining it.

Hey, a while back when you first got your set, you wondered why you got blurring when watching,,,,I think it was Apocalypto, during fast motion. You described a perfect picture when still, but then blur when movement occured. I have had the same thing, and am not too bothered with it, except with faces. Do you still get that?

As Stud says, make sure you print out what I posted above as when I went to CC and even tried to explain the xx71 set history (with the two FRC cards 1xxx/2xxx) and the serial #, they looked at me like I was off my rocker..

At the time I put the order in, in early Dec, it was still thought of that if you could finagle a PBxxxxx (Nov build), you would be guarenteed a 2xxx set.. Well shortly after I found a PB (Nov) build, others on this thread had stated getting 1xxx FRC cards on the PB and even PC (Dec) builds..

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I got two LN-T5271 in the past month from CC (returned one set as the panel was a lemon - line pixelated issues) and now have a replacement.

Both sets were PB (Nov) builds, one was a 2xxx (the first) and the 2nd is a 1xxx build..


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Soooo.. today I just called CC again to inform them of the stutter on the 1xxx set and asked them what other serial numbers they have in stock in the event I want to ROLL THE DICE and try to get a 2xxx once again..

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Myself, and probably 90-95% of the 1xxx owners, if asked, I think would honestly like to have a 2xxx FRC based set ..


Again all you can do is your homework and try to get a PB / PC based model (not sure what the new year 2008 sets are labelled as Q1 (Q = 2008)???

Anyone get a 2008 manufactured set yet?? I would think these should start rollin out..




ANYONE CARE TO HAVE A 3XXX FRC card (stutter free, TBE free, VAPOR FREE) ... OK, wake up Zman ..



Good Luck in your endeavors dude..

Not quite blurring, but pixelation/fuzziness/graininess upon fast motion which I attributed , and still do, to the lousy compressed iO cablevision feed.

Apocalypto on HDTV was horrific in this respect.

When I get the BD player I will confirm (hopefully...yes)if it is indeed a cablevision problem.

I don't know why it would have to be a mass hardware replacement or recall for this issue. In theory, they're working on a solution to the problems plaguing our sets (according to Tier 3/youknowryan's contact). Whether it's a firmware fix, or a combination of firmware/hardware, why would they have to treat it any differently than a standard firmware upgrade? They'd really just have to supply the necessary firmware/hardware to individuals complaining about the issues that the fix is intended to remedy. That would probably just be a much smaller subset of individuals who actually have the problems. As it's been pointed out, many people either don't notice the problems or figure that they're source related.

Personally, I'm just looking forward to seeing a successful "upgrade" from a 1013 to a 2004. It may not be the final solution, but to those of us who don't want to return a perfectly good TV with stutter and no other problems, it might be an acceptable one. It would be for me.

And what did CC tell you? I'm in the same boat with the 10XX set. I still have one week and one day to bring it back for exchange. But there's no way I'd want to go through that effort to get another 1013.1. I go back and forth about it though. Because as I've said, other than stutter, my set is great.

I got mine from CC and the warehouse guy went back and gave me a list of the serial numbers he had in stock and the date they were delivered. I picked a PB build with the latest delivery date and was lucky and got a 200X FW set. They had no PCs at the time I bought; however, he told me it was a fast moving set and they got deliveries regularly. When I called Samsung, I was advised that my PB set was build on 11/30/2007, so I guess that is as close to a PC as I could have gotten. Don't ask the salesperson, have the warehouse guy help you out...small tips do wonders!!

Robert

Alright... i came home and upgraded the firmware to 2004. I now do not get TBE with amp on low as i did before. Sweet!

The graininess via 360 and PS3 doooo seem just a tiny bit better, but not by a whole bunch.

I went ahead and calibrated the 360 Component in Movie Mode per the instructions above. The image looks a little dark and very subdued, almost hazy... using stanard mode as calibrated in post 1500, it is a bit brighter and more vibrant, and using Dynamic mode it is all very bright and detailed, but also so sharp that the grain effect is a lot worse and more apparent.

Using Component my 360 menu feels almost blurry. When i connected my 360 to my cheaper set via VGA, everything was SUPER sharp and vibrant. Now it feels sharp under a layer of blur or something. The wii looks the exact same via 480p Component, so it must just be the way this TV is displaying through this type of connection.

I checked out planet earth again and i noted that during the main menu where it shows a still picture with the menu options below, the background image looks pixelated. Like the elephants in the field look grainy if you get even relatively close to the TV. All the menu items look very sharp though, esp the Samsungs own menu items, theyre razor sharp. When i start the movie and the BBC HD splash screen plays through, it looks super sharp and nice. But then when the actual movie starts, the graininess is there and worse in certain darker scenes. The closer i get to the TV the more apparent it is, right up to appauling if im like a foot from it. Again, thats not on all scenes though... I then put in 300 and it had the film grain effect by default, but still had some POP to it. I decided to put The Departed in and it is by far the cleanest looking HD-DVD ive seen so far, but even it looked a tad bit grainy if i get sorta close.

I tried playing DOA4, and it looks strange... sharp beneath a layer of haze just like the main system menus do. When i am in character selection screen the characters look TOO sharp and the edges are all very jaggy. When i highlight the drunken boxing character his hair looks like alien tendrils instead of hair like it did on my CRT and cheaper LCD. When i highlite the short old man (Gen Fu?) his furry outfit looks crazy. All the fur on it suffers from major vapors or something... ive heard people describe vapors as "1950s alien force fields" and thats whats happening on all the fur, its all blurry. And on top of all of this it looks hazy. Ugh!

I started up the PS3 and it still looks relatively the same. Much better than the 360 but still far from perfect. The menus all look super sharp, the talking skull in Pirates 3 looks amazing, but during the actual movie i still see film grain in BR movies like on the 360.

I was hoping that the firmware upgrade would fix all of this but i guess i have to just finally admit to myself that it wont. I paid a ton of money for something that just works "ok" as my fiance puts it... "Honey, it looks ok... not HORRIBLE or anything.. its watchable..."

I dont want it to just look ok dammit, i paid too much for that and i could have stayed with the cheaper LCD which looked better.

Alright i guess i'll call customer support now.

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So with all this FIRMARE problem, is it not worth getting the Samsung LNT-4071F after all? I wouldn't want to waste all that money just to not be satisfied. I recently had the Toshiba 37" 720p Regza and was completly satisifed, will I be satisfied with this one even if it doesnt have the newest Firmware? I dont want to have to be hastling around with these stores so a good advice would help, not specifications but a recommendation on a good LCD full hd. I was leaning for the Sharp Aquos 42" as well, is that any better than the Samsung LNT-4071F?

When I bought my set, I made it clear to the manager that if the set had a 10xx firmware, I was bringing it back. She said OK and I took her card. I ended up with a 20xx set, but I felt better knowing that they would have no issue with the return if I got the wrong FW once I got home. She had no issue with what I told her and was fine with me bringing it back if the FW was not what I wanted.

HTH

Robert

Hi guys,
I just brought home a 71f about an hour ago and I am very displeased. I'm not sure of the terminology but I have a screen flicker in the backlight, it is horizontal lines that flash in the back ground. Does anyone else have this problem or know what I am talking about.

Thanks in advanced for your help!
Paul

We have reason to believe that setting HDMI-1 to PC places the TV in 60Hz mode. Perhaps you can use the other HDMI inputs and turn on Game Mode to see if the "miniblinds" go away.

Just wondering if it is the 120Hz processing that causes the problem, or something else. Certain color processing is probably turned off when HDMI-1 is named PC, and it would be nice to know which ones might have caused that problem.

Sorry, typo. The 03 and 05 panels are 10 bit. Some weird stuff happening though. Can someone who has recently bought a 71 series indicate their panel # and indicate if it's anything other than an LTA520HC05-03 ? Substitute the 52 for whatever size you have.

You and I are in the SAME EXACT BOAT I think. I got a 1013.1 delivered set from CC .. I left a message for the sales rep this PM (5:00pm) and have not gotten a call back yet. I told him that the set I was pretty happy with, but the stutter (when it occurs is a real pain in the arsss)..

I, like you, do not know what to do. I have until 1-25 to make the final decision on the return. If it were not for the stuttering, the set is perfectly fine that I can tell..

I sure wish Sammy would give us a little more meat on this stutter fix thing.

I PMd YouKnowRyan with questions I wanted the Tier-III to "hopefully" address on all this 1xxx vs 2xxx crap..


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I asked the CC salesguy how many 5271s they have in stock and what the serial #s were, ie. PB, etc. I have this dude trained so he knows what to look for.

The shitter though is that now I told him about the none-guarentee on the 2xxx FRC card even if the set was manfactured in NOV or DEC (PB / PC)..


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We will see what he says.. What are you leaning towards on this..

The thing is, my luck would be to return the 1013.1 set (w/ having stutter issues) and getting either a 2xxx with dead pixels, panel issue like I had, pillaring, flashlights, you name it OR another 1013.1 set that DOES have issues w/ stuttering as above..................



This is really bullcrap that we have to even deal w/ all of this when shelling out 3K !!!



Let me know what you are thinking on this..

You probably have read about the issues that the 71 series has. I have both the 65 and the 71, and to be honest, you should be happy with either one. The 71 may have slightly better PQ when AMP is turned off, but you have to weigh that against the potential annoyance of AMP's artifacts when it is turned on. People seem happier with 200X firmware, but there is still no guarantee that you will get one, wherever you buy it.

It comes down to price also. You have to make that decision whether the difference in price is worth it. If the two sets are at the same price, I would say go get the 4071, since it is an intriguing TV, and turning off AMP should not give you a PQ less than the 4065. I got the 4071 because of a great sale price; otherwise I would still be holding out.

Hi guys,
I just brought home a 71f about an hour ago and I am very displeased. I'm not sure of the terminology but I have a screen flicker in the backlight, it is horizontal lines that flash in the back ground. Does anyone else have this problem or know what I am talking about.

Thanks in advanced for your help!
Paul

Look dude..

Go buy the set and if you are not happy w/ it, return it and get your $$ back..

See if you get the 2xxx model as I stated and if things do not work out, well exchange it or get your money back.

There is only so much advice people can give you .. You have to make the decision and then see how things work out..

You have 30 days at CC for return..

BTW - I just got a 10% coupon from CC for anything over I think 199..

See if you can get one of those or ask for it..

What is weird here Lip??


Also, I have asked this a couple times now and many people probably haven't a clue as to knowing what panel they have..

My two panels on these 5271s have been the HC05..


Are they even making HC03s anymore or any other panel????