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post #10471 of 10626
hmmmm....

I don't know how wireless can be as good as wired sound.
post #10472 of 10626
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Originally Posted by wilimino View Post

check this out... http://www.astrogaming.com/products/...eless-Systems/

Just saw that. Perfect for my application. Wonder how well it works. Most other wireless formats have a bit of interference.
post #10473 of 10626
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

hmmmm....

I don't know how wireless can be as good as wired sound.

It can't. Wired is always better.. No high end headphone is wireless.. & there is a reason for that.
post #10474 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

It can't. Wired is always better.. No high end headphone is wireless.. & there is a reason for that.

Still curious to know how it compares to other options out there, wired or wireless. It won't be as good, but will it be close?
post #10475 of 10626
What would be a reasonable asking price for a pair of ATH-AD700, with the missing original screw-on adapter but a different one and a small dent on one of the cups, about a year old?
post #10476 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

It can't. Wired is always better.. No high end headphone is wireless.. & there is a reason for that.

However, I don't know if that'll always be the case. Wireless internet and wired internet get the same bits to your computer. If things can use the 802.11 spec, that would be awesome.
post #10477 of 10626
I hope that the wired mixamp gets a price drop now.
post #10478 of 10626
The new wireless mixamp looks nice. I sit pretty close to my TV while gaming so I'm not sure that I can justify getting one. (Not that that will necessarily stop me from getting one anyway.) Seem like it would also be a nice option for watching movies. You could even get an extra 'Rx' unit and each have your own volume control.

I hope someone with a wired mixamp who buys one of the new wireless mixamps will do an A/B comparison for us. Along with others on this board, I'm curious as to how well the wireless stacks up against the wired approach. According to the specs, the Rx unit has the same power output as the wired mixamp. I would guess that means it will drive the K702s and other headphones roughly similarly.
post #10479 of 10626
I am ordering it next week for sure, but they are not shipping until november 22nd. it also mentioned a bass expander feature on the description. cant wait to see if my ad700's get some more base.
post #10480 of 10626
ooops, it does accept batteries... 3xAAA... that really sucks.


anyhow, 5.8ghz should perform fine, and the bass boost is interesting.... introductory price is pretty acceptable, but since i run my usb power from my xbox anyway... it only makes sense to run optical with it, and NOT buy this.
post #10481 of 10626
Ill probably get this if I can sell my old style mixamp, any takers?
post #10482 of 10626
It says that it is 7.1 capable where the original wired mixamp is 5.1. At $99 how can I pass it up.
post #10483 of 10626
Hmm, at $99 I'm tempted for that. It would be nice to not have the cord from the AX720 unit strung across the room. I wish the Xbox could communicate the chat via USB like the PS3 does, though.

So this would need the 4-pole y-adapter just like the standard mixamp, right?
post #10484 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KingStyles View Post

It says that it is 7.1 capable where the original wired mixamp is 5.1. At $99 how can I pass it up.

7.1 doesn't really add anything right now.
post #10485 of 10626
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Originally Posted by ferrisg View Post

Hmm, at $99 I'm tempted for that. It would be nice to not have the cord from the AX720 unit strung across the room. I wish the Xbox could communicate the chat via USB like the PS3 does, though.

So this would need the 4-pole y-adapter just like the standard mixamp, right?

when i spoke with Astro at PAX, they said they were working with microsoft to get a headset that would sync with the controller like the wireless microsoft headset does, and that when they did, there would be no need for the cable from the controller to the mixamp.... personally i'd wait a little longer for this... i mean, if you're ok with buying/using a new astro headset vs a pair of headphones..... unless they add that controller sync to a new RX unit or yet another mixamp.
post #10486 of 10626
Astro also released a in ear headst for $80. Any thoughts? http://www.astrogaming.com/products/...STAR-Ear-Buds/
post #10487 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KingStyles View Post

It says that it is 7.1 capable where the original wired mixamp is 5.1. At $99 how can I pass it up.

The original was already the equivalent of 7.1. Think about it. It only uses an optical digital input (which only does 5.1 DD). They realized they can get away with calling it 7.1 because it essentially already sounded like it.

I guarantee this will sound the same if not worse than the old Mixamp. Who knows what the bass expander will do, but otherwise I will call it first: Nothing better than the old Mixamp except it being wireless, and it having a bass altering option.

How is this any different than what all the wireless headsets like the Turtle Beaches (which does "7.1") do? NOTHING, with the exception of being able to use it with any headphone... and you all already know how 'great' those wireless headsets sound.... <_<<br />
Let's not forget our harder to drive headphones like the K701/K702 and 600ohm Beyers. You really think a battery powered device will do them any good? Adding an amp after the wireless Mixamp is gonna make it being wireless useless.


I can see this as a simple solution to other gamers who won't use anything but Astro headsets, but to us who want a little more quality, won't particularly find it being useful whatsoever.
post #10488 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KingStyles View Post

Astro also released a in ear headst for $80. Any thoughts? http://www.astrogaming.com/products/...STAR-Ear-Buds/

they look amazing, but SQ is probably so-so and not worth the $80 price tag... i mean, i could be wrong, but i'd only expect them to price them so that they're making a good profit on them.
post #10489 of 10626
Ok, im new to these gaming headsets and i need help choosing between the dx11 from turtle beach and the tritton ax720. Like my first time buying one of these so i dont wana spend so mutch like on astros. I used the search bar and found out the page where this was discussed and from what i read i was sold with the trittons. But, then i did my own research and i found out that the tritton needs a power souce to work. And, the dssi dosn't. Also, with he dssi i can connect my mp3 player and u cant with the trittons. Is there any way i would be able to use my mp3 player with the ax720? And, whats so bad about turtle beach is the x11 just not a good headset or what is it? Or should i just save more money to buy the dpx21 or the tritton ax pro instead of the other two?

Also, my friend might sell me his astro mixing amp to buy the new wireless one, is there a decent headset i can buy that is not so expensive and would i could use with the mixing amp? ohh btw i only have a xbox and i mostly play online multiplayer.
post #10490 of 10626
This is why I made the other thread. Look at the New Headphone/Headset thread. It's on the first page here in the XBox sub forum.
post #10491 of 10626
Parts finally came in (please, NEVER ORDER FROM WHIPLASH AUDIO). So, it was time to pull them apart....


Look at that magnet... almost as big as one you'd find on a car speaker...
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...and for those of you with K702 headphones and SWZ Cable... you know what this means.... yup, our first BeyerKG DT480 Gaming Headset...
post #10493 of 10626
I think the question is "why?"

and the answer is probably "because you can"

post #10494 of 10626
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

I think the question is "why?"

and the answer is probably "because you can"


Well, to be honest... I went down this path...because the owner of the headphone reported that there was a short from one side to the other. He also wanted a longer and better custom cable to utilize with the headphone. I looked around a little... and another stock cable would have to be purchased and then cannibalized to get the stock connector.

So, I asked about changing over to a more common style cable... and what better cable to use than an AKG setup? Then... he can use my custom cable, my gaming cable or buy one from Moon Audio or those places that fit the K702 and have them work for his purposes... ingenious huh!?
post #10495 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

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Well, to be honest... I went down this path...because the owner of the headphone reported that there was a short from one side to the other. He also wanted a longer and better custom cable to utilize with the headphone. I looked around a little... and another stock cable would have to be purchased and then cannibalized to get the stock connector.

So, I asked about changing over to a more common style cable... and what better cable to use than an AKG setup? Then... he can use my custom cable, my gaming cable or buy one from Moon Audio or those places that fit the K702 and have them work for his purposes... ingenious huh!?

Great job, bro.. Can't wait to hear them.

Here is a review on the Beyer Headzone 5.1 HT system. Seems to go well beyond DH processing..

This breakthrough technology is not cheap, but boy is it good. If you have never experienced headtracking headphones, you are in for a surprise. With a DTS or Dolby soundtrack, you hear real surround sound through headphones. Nothing fake or processed about this audio!

The brain senses depth in both visual and sound processing using small head movements. With regular headphones, if you turn your head, the music moves too -- the brain rejects this as fake, which is why there is no illusion of depth. But with headtracking, if you move your head, the magicians (OK, audio engineers) at beyerdynamics adjust the sound in real-time to keep it oriented correctly.

Put a CD (even 2-channel audio) of a female vocalist on. She appears right in front of you, equal sound in both ears. Now turn you head -- with this unit, the voice stays where it was, and when your head is 90 degrees, you hear her only out of one ear!

The net effect is a real 3-d soundstage with headphones. I was listening one day to a compilation album, and dozed off. A track with just a solo piano came on at a volume high enough to wake me, and I panicked thinking there was a paino in the room! Really!

For concert videos with a DTS soundtrack, the effect is amazingly compelling. You are in the stadium.

So I have set up a Samsung HD LCD 22" TV that I got from Amazon as well, and this unit, with the fantastic beyer 880 headphones that are included, and I now have a private movie and concert viewing station (I sit right in front of it) that works at thundering volume without disturbing anyone, with full surround sound.

With two channel audio not meant for surround sound listening, I think the added "room" effect is not enjoyable. But there is a button on the front that just turns this surround processing off. Press it, and Presto! -- you have a DAC and Headphone amp as good as any $1000 to $2000 audiophile unit out there. I took it to a meeting of headphone audiophiles and showed it off in this mode, and everyone who tried it agreed: excellent DAC and amp.

And all audiophiles agree that the beyer 880's are world class.

So you just plug the digital out (either the S/PDIF RCA cable or the TOSlink optical cable) from your DVD/CD player into this baby, and you are all set. Keep everything else connected, and you will now have a personal listening rig that is hard to beat for convenience. Keep the surround off for 2-channel music, and on for movies, concerts, and music CDs with DTS ... you will be in sonic heaven.
post #10496 of 10626
Hi Guys-
I am a real hardcore gamer. I do game on PS3 and Xbox. Prolly game about 5-6 hours a night. I currently have been using the AXPRO headphones for about 1.5 years. I think they are excellent for positioning opponents. I also had the AX720's for about a week because I wanted to try them out and see if they were any better than the PRO's for positioning but they were not.

I am now possibly looking at purchasing some high end stereo headphones, either looking at the ad700 or something similar under 200 dollars. My concern is if I buy the AD700, will I be unhappy with the positioning of the enemies when compared to my AXPRO. Right now I can tell exactly where with pinpoint accuracy and I do not want to lose that. Am I able to use my Tritton box, or do I have to buy a mixamp?

Has anyone done this after using the AXPRO's and after really liking the AXPRO's? Like I said I am just worried about how poorly the positioning was with the AX720, I could tell which direction people were with the AX720's but not the distance.


Ideally, I heard the TB HPA2 are superior to the AXPRO's because of 40mm drivers instead of 30mm. Is there a way to use the existing Dolby Decoder with Trittons Pro's and hooking up the HPA2 through the box into a PS3. I mostly game on PS3, I already know this is possibly on the Xbox.
post #10497 of 10626
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Originally Posted by petes67bird View Post

Hi Guys-
I am a real hardcore gamer. I do game on PS3 and Xbox. Prolly game about 5-6 hours a night. I currently have been using the AXPRO headphones for about 1.5 years. I think they are excellent for positioning opponents. I also had the AX720's for about a week because I wanted to try them out and see if they were any better than the PRO's for positioning but they were not.

I am now possibly looking at purchasing some high end stereo headphones, either looking at the ad700 or something similar under 200 dollars. My concern is if I buy the AD700, will I be unhappy with the positioning of the enemies when compared to my AXPRO. Right now I can tell exactly where with pinpoint accuracy and I do not want to lose that. Am I able to use my Tritton box, or do I have to buy a mixamp?

Has anyone done this after using the AXPRO's and after really liking the AXPRO's? Like I said I am just worried about how poorly the positioning was with the AX720, I could tell which direction people were with the AX720's but not the distance.


Ideally, I heard the TB HPA2 are superior to the AXPRO's because of 40mm drivers instead of 30mm. Is there a way to use the existing Dolby Decoder with Trittons Pro's and hooking up the HPA2 through the box into a PS3. I mostly game on PS3, I already know this is possibly on the Xbox.

To be honest I think the AX Pros are about the very worst headset I have ever used, that couldn't even match the KSC75 ($13) with Dolby Headphone. For most of us, the AX720 would be leaps and bounds better than the AX Pros due to it's use of Dolby Headphone, but you're so used to speaker 'placement' instead of a whole soundfield. There are a lot of gamers that are also used to regular stereo that HATE Dolby Headphone. YMMV.

If you didn't like the AX720 with Dolby Headphone, then perhaps you're just better off just not using Dolby Headphone and virtual surround in general. Perhaps sticking with the AX Pros or some other multi driver headset like the Psyko 5.1 is best for you, since you seem to like it. We here as a whole don't like that multi driver gimmick, so we aren't the best people to ask.

Personally the best demo of Dolby Headphone I have heard is the K701 with the Mixamp. The AD700 comes second. If you are willing to spend the money, get a Mixamp + K702 + a detachable mic + a desktop amp (to help power the K702). That'd be the best option for virtual surround gaming, IMHO.

You're used to hearing certain speakers give off sound, while Dolby Headphone doesn't give you those audio cues. It literally envelopes you in a 360 degree soundfield and places sounds wherever they are in that space. To most of us, that is highly superior than just certain speakers going off, but that's what YOU are used to, so I highly doubt anything but 5.1 will work for you.
post #10498 of 10626
I am thinking of selling my K702 with gaming cable. Make a offer if interested.
post #10499 of 10626
Why? O_O
post #10500 of 10626
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Originally Posted by petes67bird View Post

Hi Guys-
I am a real hardcore gamer. I do game on PS3 and Xbox. Prolly game about 5-6 hours a night. I currently have been using the AXPRO headphones for about 1.5 years. I think they are excellent for positioning opponents. I also had the AX720's for about a week because I wanted to try them out and see if they were any better than the PRO's for positioning but they were not.

I am now possibly looking at purchasing some high end stereo headphones, either looking at the ad700 or something similar under 200 dollars. My concern is if I buy the AD700, will I be unhappy with the positioning of the enemies when compared to my AXPRO. Right now I can tell exactly where with pinpoint accuracy and I do not want to lose that. Am I able to use my Tritton box, or do I have to buy a mixamp?

Has anyone done this after using the AXPRO's and after really liking the AXPRO's? Like I said I am just worried about how poorly the positioning was with the AX720, I could tell which direction people were with the AX720's but not the distance.


Ideally, I heard the TB HPA2 are superior to the AXPRO's because of 40mm drivers instead of 30mm. Is there a way to use the existing Dolby Decoder with Trittons Pro's and hooking up the HPA2 through the box into a PS3. I mostly game on PS3, I already know this is possibly on the Xbox.

If you really like the AXPros... then order the HPA2 from Amazon, so if they don't work for you... you can send them back. You'll need the HPX surround cable which will hook right up to the Tritton box. We here have not found much to like about multi-driver headphones... but if that is what you like... you may like the HPA2.
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