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post #511 of 10626
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Originally Posted by A.C View Post

for my Mic hack, i used an insulated wire (white) and a bare copper wire inside the communicator cable. if memory serves there was also a blue & red wire. are the 360 colors the same?

Yes, I think so. There was a white insulated wire with bare copper wire around it for the mic and then there was a blue and a copper/red color pair of wires for the speaker.

You have the radio shack mic hard wired to the old communicator cable, yes? What do you have for voice speaker? Are you using one or just going through the "speakers" (headphones). If you are just going through the headphones, what did you do with the red and blue wires from the communicator cable. Are they just loose under your shrink wrap or what?
post #512 of 10626
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Originally Posted by RobertR1 View Post

I had the Medusa 5.1 headphones for over 2 years which I really liked. Unfortunately, I broke them by being a caveman so I need something new.

They'll be 99% used for PC gaming only. 5.1. Mic attached.

So far from what I gather the Tritton AX360, or Turtle Beach X3's. I have an Asus P5k Deluxe Mobo. I'll be using built in sound. Any suggestions? Budget is around $150 but cheaper the better!

You said PC gaming only, I would not get the Turtle beach ones; they are stereo only. Tritton also makes a headset just for PC gaming, but I don't know much about them.....
http://www.trittontechnologies.com/p...s/TRIUA512.htm

Another set I would look at would be the Razer Baracuda's.
http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?m...products_id=38


Again these are strictly PC gaming cans that I suggested. I am loving the AX360's I just got.
post #513 of 10626
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Originally Posted by BIGJOHNB20 View Post

Yes, I think so. There was a white insulated wire with bare copper wire around it for the mic and then there was a blue and a copper/red color pair of wires for the speaker.

You have the radio shack mic hard wired to the old communicator cable, yes? What do you have for voice speaker? Are you using one or just going through the "speakers" (headphones). If you are just going through the headphones, what did you do with the red and blue wires from the communicator cable. Are they just loose under your shrink wrap or what?

Yeah. I just trimmed the red/blue wire & left it buried in the shrink wrap. I have the voice set to "speaker." I still have my (unhacked) 360 communicator for other options.

Regarding your problem, have you tried tying all 3 grounds together? Amazing how more often than not, grounding is the culprit for electrical issues.
post #514 of 10626
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Originally Posted by wilson10 View Post

You said PC gaming only, I would not get the Turtle beach ones; they are stereo only. Tritton also makes a headset just for PC gaming, but I don't know much about them.....
http://www.trittontechnologies.com/p...s/TRIUA512.htm

Another set I would look at would be the Razer Baracuda's.
http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?m...products_id=38


Again these are strictly PC gaming cans that I suggested. I am loving the AX360's I just got.

Any reason I can't use the AX360's on the PC?
post #515 of 10626
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Originally Posted by A.C View Post

Regarding your problem, have you tried tying all 3 grounds together? Amazing how more often than not, grounding is the culprit for electrical issues.

I was also thinking it might have something to do with grounding. What are the 3 grounds your are talking about. I tried tying the 2 mic wires together and then attaching the 2 speaker wires to the speaker wires from the earbuds and that didn't seem to help. I guess I will play with it a little more over the weekend and see what I can come up with. I was just hoping I would have someone chime in and say, "Oh, just do X" and that would fix my problem.
post #516 of 10626
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Originally Posted by BIGJOHNB20 View Post

What are the 3 grounds your are talking about.

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post #517 of 10626
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Originally Posted by RobertR1 View Post

Any reason I can't use the AX360's on the PC?

Not that I know of, I was just stating that Tritton makes PC headphones.
post #518 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

Each driver (Left & Right) is being driven independently & becomes more efficient.. Very, Very, basic explanation.

heres some pics of my balanced SA5000 headphones.
http://apuresound.com/images/cables/hsa5000.html

Theres no more 1/4 jack.. Its been replaced by a female XRL termination, that plugs into a DAC with a XRL male output.
Some cans scale better then others when balanced. You will usually notice a spike in detail, clarity, (sounds become more real & natural) Better bass control..Tighter, more defined bass with better impact.. & larger sound stage.. & less distortion..

Just revisiting this thread now. Thanks for the reply and explanation.
post #519 of 10626
Alright, I'm at a crossroads right now. I don't consider myself an audiophile but don't like spending good money after bad. I have the opportunity to get a pair of 555's for $100 or 595's for $180. Which one would you pick?

In anticipation of picking up one of these headphones, I just received the JVC DH unit from Audiocubes today. I can't wait to enjoy the experience.
post #520 of 10626
can't really go wrong either way. most people haven't owned both - and it seems everyone likes which ever they bought.

i went with the 595's b/c i knew i'd always wonder "what if." if you can avoid similar thinking, the 555's will probably sound great & save you a wad of cash. however $80 isn't THAT large of a penalty to knowingly take a step up the ladder. if we were talking speakers... the # would be much much bigger.
post #521 of 10626
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Originally Posted by TotalDistinction View Post

Alright, I'm at a crossroads right now. I don't consider myself an audiophile but don't like spending good money after bad. I have the opportunity to get a pair of 555's for $100 or 595's for $180. Which one would you pick?

In anticipation of picking up one of these headphones, I just received the JVC DH unit from Audiocubes today. I can't wait to enjoy the experience.

The 595's are the latest top tier line of headphones from Sen. Technically they are superior to the 555's.. Better drivers, housing etc.. They are a definite upgrade..But just because they are better doesn't mean you will automatically like them more then the 555's.. The 555's seem to be laid back, a bit muffled, & has inferior bass to the 595's. (From the comments I read) The 595's are more aggressive & upfront.. More exciting.. Both are a win win situation. are they 80.00's better? Only your ears can decide that..
post #522 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

Arguably the best Mcoy is made by a Headfi member named 'blackie'.. Theres a review on headfi.com. Retails for 40.00 as of now.. But sounds like a 100.00 amp.. & it has bass boost that doesn't suck.. I hear it sounds really nice.. The Mcoy amp will add more volume, wider soundstage, crisper sound, more detail.. It will enhance the 5.1 effects along with the overall SQ.. I'm sure its much better then the JVC's internal amp..

I'm not a fan of 5.1 with 8 drivers. It's flawed by design.. But if people can live with supbar SQ in order to get decent SS on a budget, they are decent alternatives.. My name gripe is when I read these 5.1 headset makers proclaim their digital headphones sound much better then ANY 'regular' headphone because they are 5.1 digital.. Thats false & reeks with ignorance. AKG1000 ear speakers, Sony R10's, Sony Q10's, ATL3000, HE60/HE90, Stax Omegas.. Would kill any 5.1 headset in terms of SQ..

Maybe I'm dense or not using the right search criteria but I can't seem to find that review of the Mcoy by the Headfi member "blackie".

Would you be kind enough to provide a link please?
post #523 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

The 595's are the latest top tier line of headphones from Sen. Technically they are superior to the 555's.. Better drivers, housing etc.. They are a definite upgrade..But just because they are better doesn't mean you will automatically like them more then the 555's.. The 555's seem to be laid back, a bit muffled, & has inferior bass to the 595's. (From the comments I read) The 595's are more aggressive & upfront.. More exciting.. Both are a win win situation. are they 80.00's better? Only your ears can decide that..

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Originally Posted by A.C View Post

can't really go wrong either way. most people haven't owned both - and it seems everyone likes which ever they bought.

i went with the 595's b/c i knew i'd always wonder "what if." if you can avoid similar thinking, the 555's will probably sound great & save you a wad of cash. however $80 isn't THAT large of a penalty to knowingly take a step up the ladder. if we were talking speakers... the # would be much much bigger.


Thank you both for your replies. I'm going to stretch myself for the 595's because I don't want that "what if" feeling if I buy the 555's and if the 595's are more agressive with the bass, I would have an appreciation for that.

Thanks again.
post #524 of 10626
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Originally Posted by TotalDistinction View Post

Thank you both for your replies. I'm going to stretch myself for the 595's because I don't want that "what if" feeling if I buy the 555's and if the 595's are more agressive with the bass, I would have an appreciation for that.

Thanks again.

I got the 595s from Amazon for right under $165 including expedited shipping. The cheapest non-featured merchant came through quickly with a trouble free transaction.
post #525 of 10626
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

I got the 595s from Amazon for right under $165 including expedited shipping. The cheapest non-featured merchant came through quickly with a trouble free transaction.

I appreciate you taking the time to find this information for me. My issue is that I'm in Canada and even though the dollar is on par with the U.S. dollar, the shipping and custom costs wouldn't make it worth my while.

Now, if that was offered in Canada, that would be a different story...
post #526 of 10626
Here are some more 5.1 recommendations.
Sennheiser Surround:300. Street price 40-75 bucks. You wear it around your neck actually. Great for FPS.
AKG Hearo 999 Audiosphere II: 1,000. Street price 500.00.. It is the world's first digital UHF wireless surround sound listening system.
http://www.headphone.com/products/he...osphere-ii.php
Audio Technia's soon to be released 5000i wireless headphone. Supports DD 5.1. Its their 07 flag ship wireless headphone..
1000. Street price TBA
post #527 of 10626
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Originally Posted by TotalDistinction View Post

I appreciate you taking the time to find this information for me. My issue is that I'm in Canada and even though the dollar is on par with the U.S. dollar, the shipping and custom costs wouldn't make it worth my while.

Now, if that was offered in Canada, that would be a different story...

Or you could have someone in the US get it for you, then they can ship it as a gift..
post #528 of 10626
Hey fellaz i got stuck with a pair of sens 515's and they work fine. The problem is i think my reciever is busted as it plays the left louder than the right. I know it has to be the reciever as they are even on my computer and ipod. Any kind of adapter or something i can buy to skip plugging into reciever when i want to use them with my 360?
post #529 of 10626
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Originally Posted by HoodedSoldier View Post

Hey fellaz i got stuck with a pair of sens 515's and they work fine. The problem is i think my reciever is busted as it plays the left louder than the right. I know it has to be the reciever as they are even on my computer and ipod. Any kind of adapter or something i can buy to skip plugging into reciever when i want to use them with my 360?

I'd recommend a cheap headphone amp.. It will bypass the amp in your receiver. Volume control would be done with your headphone amp.
post #530 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

I'd recommend a cheap headphone amp.. It will bypass the amp in your receiver. Volume control would be done with your headphone amp.

Thanks so would this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Amplifier.html
plus this http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search do the job?
post #531 of 10626
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Originally Posted by HoodedSoldier View Post

Thanks so would this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Amplifier.html
plus this http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search do the job?

I don't think it has a line out.. I used a headphone amp with my receiver.. I connected a 1/8 audio cable to the line out on my amp & to the headphone jack in my receiver (with 1/4 adaptor).. Then plugged my headphones into the headphone amp, & turned up the volume.. If the device you listed has RCA L/R inputs you could connect it to the back of your receiver. That would be best.. as it would totally eliminate your receivers amp.. Using a portable headphone amp with a line out, you would need to turn the volume up on your reciever a little, then use the volume knob on your headphone amp to increase the volume..
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post #533 of 10626
I want to give my impressions of my comparison between the Tritton AX360 5.1 Headphones and the JVC SU-DH1 Surrond 5.1 Surround Sound Adapter supporting Dolby Headphone paired with Sennheiser PC150 Headphones.

I don't consider myself an audiophile (but developing) and am letting my ears and my wife's ears be the judge.


My setup for both scenarios are like this:

Scenario 1: Yamaha RX-V1600 Receiver (optical out) --> Tritton controller box (optical in) --> Tritton Headphones

Sencario 2: Yamaha RX-V1600 Receiver (optical out) --> JVC SU-DH1 (Optical in) --> Sennheiser PC150 Headphones


I initially purchased the Tritton 5.1 headset to give me late-night private listening while gaming with my XBox 360/PS3 or listening to movies. Because it's connected to my receiver, I basically can listen to anything that's connected to my receiver privately.

Because I had no basis for comparison, at the time, I did enjoy using the Tritton headset and it gave me a satisfactory experience without a real 5.1 surround sound setup. However, I did not like the rumble that it produced around my head whenever there was an explosion or something that used heavy bass.

I then start reading this thread and wondered if the experience can be better. Being a gadget junky, I go out and purchase the JVC SU-DH1 5.1 surround sound adapter from audiocubes.com. I still haven't decided on a set of headphones to pair with it although I'm considering the Sennheiser HD555 or HD595's. In the meantime, I use what I have which are the Sennheiser PC150 headphones which I originally purchased to be used on my computer for gaming and voice applications.

Anyway, I purchased Transformers on HD-DVD and watched it through my XBox 360 with the HD-DVD add-on via the JVC adapter and PC150 headphones. All I could say was "Holy Sh1t!!!!!" The surround sound that Dolby Headphone provides is amazing! I call my wife downstairs to listen as well (Chapter 2 is the reference chapter in Transformers IMHO). She was absolutely astonished.

Now, you don't my wife, but she's not into any of this stuff and think it's a complete waste of money. Combine that with the fact that she doesn't like movies like Transformers and I'm potentially setting myself up for disappointment. Well, guess what? She enjoyed the experience so much that she wanted to continue watching Transformers to completion via the JVC Adapter and PC150 combination. Since I only have one adapter, we didn't do that and will watch it to completion without headphones another time (I've already watched it about a half dozen times already).

I did watch Transformers with the Trittons as well. I further realize that the over-done rumbling does turn me off. Some of you may not mind, care, or not let it bother you. Knowing that I have the option, the Trittons will not be my first choice.


From my experience, here are my impressions:

1. If you can afford the JVC surround sound adapter and good headphones, this is the recommendation I would go. It is the more expensive option. However, if you are striving for the absolute best experience, this is it without a real surround sound setup. My experience is that the surround sound is a lot more "real" without the bass being over-done. It's kind of hard to explain but it just felt more authentic and enjoyable. I set the adapter to the first Dolby Headphone setting (DH1) which is similar to being in a typical enclosed room.

2. I won't diss the Trittons. The Trittons are cheaper at approximately $100 U.S. and you DO get a surround experience if you don't have a surround setup already. I really didn't like the rumbling experience that these headphones produced and sometimes felt like my head was going to explode if I wore them for long periods of time. But this might not be a problem for some people. Overall, this is the cheaper option that will do the job if you're looking for a surround experience.


A little off-topic, but with the experience with the Sennheisser PC150 headphones, I'm now wondering if the experience can get any better if I upgrade my headphones. I could only imagine.

Because the Sennheiser HD555/595's are open-cans, I'm not sure if they will be private enough without disturbing anybody around me. If anyone has any comparable headphone suggestions that are closed, I would appreciate it although it appears that the Audio-Technics ATH-A700 or ATH-A900 should be comparable from what I'm reading.

Anyway, thanks for tolerating this long post. I know it's not a technical review but I hope it has been helpful to some of you.

BTW: I think I will be putting my Tritton 5.1 Headphones up for sale.
post #534 of 10626
Just got my Dir2000c headphones in. I'll let you folks know what I think of them once they are charged.
post #535 of 10626
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Originally Posted by TotalDistinction View Post

I want to give my impressions of my comparison between the Tritton AX360 5.1 Headphones and the JVC SU-DH1 Surrond 5.1 Surround Sound Adapter supporting Dolby Headphone paired with Sennheiser PC150 Headphones.

I don't consider myself an audiophile (but developing) and am letting my ears and my wife's ears be the judge.


My setup for both scenarios are like this:

Scenario 1: Yamaha RX-V1600 Receiver (optical out) --> Tritton controller box (optical in) --> Tritton Headphones

Sencario 2: Yamaha RX-V1600 Receiver (optical out) --> JVC SU-DH1 (Optical in) --> Sennheiser PC150 Headphones


I initially purchased the Tritton 5.1 headset to give me late-night private listening while gaming with my XBox 360/PS3 or listening to movies. Because it's connected to my receiver, I basically can listen to anything that's connected to my receiver privately.

Because I had no basis for comparison, at the time, I did enjoy using the Tritton headset and it gave me a satisfactory experience without a real 5.1 surround sound setup. However, I did not like the rumble that it produced around my head whenever there was an explosion or something that used heavy bass.

I then start reading this thread and wondered if the experience can be better. Being a gadget junky, I go out and purchase the JVC SU-DH1 5.1 surround sound adapter from audiocubes.com. I still haven't decided on a set of headphones to pair with it although I'm considering the Sennheiser HD555 or HD595's. In the meantime, I use what I have which are the Sennheiser PC150 headphones which I originally purchased to be used on my computer for gaming and voice applications.

Anyway, I purchased Transformers on HD-DVD and watched it through my XBox 360 with the HD-DVD add-on via the JVC adapter and PC150 headphones. All I could say was "Holy Sh1t!!!!!" The surround sound that Dolby Headphone provides is amazing! I call my wife downstairs to listen as well (Chapter 2 is the reference chapter in Transformers IMHO). She was absolutely astonished.

Now, you don't my wife, but she's not into any of this stuff and think it's a complete waste of money. Combine that with the fact that she doesn't like movies like Transformers and I'm potentially setting myself up for disappointment. Well, guess what? She enjoyed the experience so much that she wanted to continue watching Transformers to completion via the JVC Adapter and PC150 combination. Since I only have one adapter, we didn't do that and will watch it to completion without headphones another time (I've already watched it about a half dozen times already).

I did watch Transformers with the Trittons as well. I further realize that the over-done rumbling does turn me off. Some of you may not mind, care, or not let it bother you. Knowing that I have the option, the Trittons will not be my first choice.


From my experience, here are my impressions:

1. If you can afford the JVC surround sound adapter and good headphones, this is the recommendation I would go. It is the more expensive option. However, if you are striving for the absolute best experience, this is it without a real surround sound setup. My experience is that the surround sound is a lot more "real" without the bass being over-done. It's kind of hard to explain but it just felt more authentic and enjoyable. I set the adapter to the first Dolby Headphone setting (DH1) which is similar to being in a typical enclosed room.

2. I won't diss the Trittons. The Trittons are cheaper at approximately $100 U.S. and you DO get a surround experience if you don't have a surround setup already. I really didn't like the rumbling experience that these headphones produced and sometimes felt like my head was going to explode if I wore them for long periods of time. But this might not be a problem for some people. Overall, this is the cheaper option that will do the job if you're looking for a surround experience.


A little off-topic, but with the experience with the Sennheisser PC150 headphones, I'm now wondering if the experience can get any better if I upgrade my headphones. I could only imagine.

Because the Sennheiser HD555/595's are open-cans, I'm not sure if they will be private enough without disturbing anybody around me. If anyone has any comparable headphone suggestions that are closed, I would appreciate it although it appears that the Audio-Technics ATH-A700 or ATH-A900 should be comparable from what I'm reading.

Anyway, thanks for tolerating this long post. I know it's not a technical review but I hope it has been helpful to some of you.

BTW: I think I will be putting my Tritton 5.1 Headphones up for sale.

A resounding yes! Better headphones will give you a better experience with the JVC..

Denon 1000
Denon 2000 also..
post #536 of 10626
This is to Totaldistinction, I have just purchased the ax360 and have no luck with sound for the hd dvd player on the xbox 360. The main drive bay gives sound no problem. Doi I have to connect it thru my receiver or am I missing something to get the sound from the hd dvd add on, many thanx...
BlackAjah
post #537 of 10626
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Originally Posted by BlackAjah View Post

This is to Totaldistinction, I have just purchased the ax360 and have no luck with sound for the hd dvd player on the xbox 360. The main drive bay gives sound no problem. Doi I have to connect it thru my receiver or am I missing something to get the sound from the hd dvd add on, many thanx...
BlackAjah

I had that problem too, make sure your sound option is set to Dolby Digital in the sound options of the 360.
post #538 of 10626
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Originally Posted by BlackAjah View Post

This is to Totaldistinction, I have just purchased the ax360 and have no luck with sound for the hd dvd player on the xbox 360. The main drive bay gives sound no problem. Doi I have to connect it thru my receiver or am I missing something to get the sound from the hd dvd add on, many thanx...
BlackAjah

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Originally Posted by wilson10 View Post

I had that problem too, make sure your sound option is set to Dolby Digital in the sound options of the 360.

BlackAjah: It looks like you have your answer. Let us know if this resolves your problem.
post #539 of 10626
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Originally Posted by TotalDistinction View Post

Maybe I'm dense or not using the right search criteria but I can't seem to find that review of the Mcoy by the Headfi member "blackie".

Would you be kind enough to provide a link please?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/cMoy-Amp-Headphon...QQcmdZViewItem

Getting this amp plus the new headphones will up your movie enjoyment a few notches.. Just make sure your JVC has a line out.. His current Cmoys don't have a volume knob, so you'd control the volume through your JVC. His reasoning is better SQ..But because of demand he is making Cmoys with volume control.. These should be out later this month from what I remember.. For 40.00, it's the best Bang for the buck in regards to portable amps IMO..

Update: Blackie has just released the Bass Boost cMoy v2.00. It has a volume pot. It should be up on ebay, or you can email him to purchase directly if interested..
post #540 of 10626
This review is from a customer who purchased the Cmoy EBB..

When you turn the bass booost on the sound is . The Bass is simply AMAZING. Low sexy bass that does not distort or cause noise at all! The bass is low but so nice that you can actually fall asleep to it. It is not annoying what-so-ever. I could listen to my cmoy for hours with bass boost on if I wanted to.

The lower end bass really stands out. It sounds simply amazing. It's like listening to music with subwoofers in your headphones! I am being dead serious. I have so much audio equipment at home and in my car and to be honest, this cMoy amp sounds just like as if I'm blasting my bassy music in my car. I love it! Bass is rich, crisp and clear!

Even with my garbage samsung mp3 player it produced nice rich bass and still kept it's mid and high treble. It was very nice.

I wish I had some testing equipment to show you, or you could listen to this. It sounds absolutely amazing. For the price of it, I would recommend it to anyone!

My dad, a former audiophile back in the day tried my amp and he was surprised by the sound quality and bass that this amp could produce!

For the price, I'd say this is THE BEST cMOY AMP on ebay! The sound it produces is amazing! Would highly recommend it for anyone who uses Mp3 players!

For all you bass lovers, be sure to check this out!

Bottomline: Affordable, Amazing Sound Quality, Breathless low-end Bass, Crisp sound, and great workmanship.

Don't be scared to contact John, hes a great guy and he replied to questions at lightning speeds!
Highly recommended!

5/5 Stars for Build Quality.
5/5 Stars for Sound Quality.
4/5 Stars for Price.

Overall: 5/5 Stars!
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