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post #7561 of 10626
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

Whaaaahahaha! Here we go again. Shin, you crack me up. Fun fact: This is the third time you've said "Had I known about"...fill-in-the-blank-headphone...I would've stopped buying, or something very similar.

at least the 3rd time! LOL!

quick look on HEad-Fi says that they're good for the money. $35 is hard to beat but at what performance point do you want $35 headphones to come in at? There's only so much you can expect from these compared to what you (Shin) got now.

DT770/DT880 are formidable headphones, I suggest you log off and stop looking or at least look at amps now! With the higher price point, your search should be slightly slowed down
post #7562 of 10626
Contrary to popular belief, it seems that buying some higher end pairs of headphones hasn't satisfied Shin's need to try every budget headphone ever made

I can't wait until he gets a DAC and gets back to us on what differences it made to his listening experience
post #7563 of 10626
if those jvc's arent any good, you could always transplant the ksc75 drivers into them
post #7564 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

Let us know what you think of them... maybe I can get some for the wife... as she and I have differing musical tastes... and with the open nature of the AD700s... I can still hear her stuff....

Lol, sounds like a nice way of putting it. Admit it, she can't stand what you listen to either!
post #7565 of 10626
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Originally Posted by pj_rage View Post

contrary to popular belief, it seems that buying some higher end pairs of headphones hasn't satisfied shin's need to try every budget headphone ever made

i can't wait until he gets a dac and gets back to us on what differences it made to his listening experience

lol..
post #7566 of 10626
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Originally Posted by ATB View Post

Lol, sounds like a nice way of putting it. Admit it, she can't stand what you listen to either!

It's true. I have crazy, all over the board tastes. I like Jazz, Big Band, Classical, Electronica, Symphonic Metal, Heavy Metal, Rock, some Pop, R&B, and probably other stuff that I'm not quite sure of. She likes some Pop, a lot of differing Hip Hop stuff (which I would rather not listen to, at all)... and other stuff... so yes.. we don't really listen to too much of the same stuff. Well, let me retract that hip hop stuff... there are some stand outs... like the old stuff from LL Cool J, and a few others...
post #7567 of 10626
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Originally Posted by bbexperience View Post

Whaaaahahaha! Here we go again. Shin, you crack me up. Fun fact: This is the third time you've said "Had I known about"...fill-in-the-blank-headphone...I would've stopped buying, or something very similar.

But it's TRUE!

I literally mean this for when I was looking for ultra comfort, because I was VERY ready to buy the damn Bose Around Ear, even if they weren't that great. But I realized how stupidly expensive they were for their SQ and went with the M50s. The ONLY reason I sold my M50s and went with the DT770s is because my roomie paid full price for them, AND I had just gotten my refund for the AX Pros, which put me right there for the DT770s for no more money out of my pocket.

You have to realize that I wasn't gonna get anything more for a closed headphone had I gotten the Bose. If I had seen these, I would've went with them.

I'm NOT getting them. Shoot, I already have the DT770s for closed cans. Though I just find the JVC really sexy.
post #7568 of 10626
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Originally Posted by PJ_Rage View Post

Contrary to popular belief, it seems that buying some higher end pairs of headphones hasn't satisfied Shin's need to try every budget headphone ever made

I can't wait until he gets a DAC and gets back to us on what differences it made to his listening experience

It's sorta true! I find it more thrilling to get good budget cans over really expensive mid to high level stuff. That's why I'm so in love with the KSC75's sound. They would be perfect, if they had a typical headband. The problemn I see with transplanting the KSC75's drivers to another headphone is the distance between the driver and your ears, and the housing they are in. It would dramatically change the sound. The UR40's pretty much prove that, if they indeed have the same drivers.
post #7569 of 10626
i dont think they have the same drivers as the ur40, and tons of people transplant the drivers on head-fi with varying success.
post #7570 of 10626
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

i dont think they have the same drivers as the ur40, and tons of people transplant the drivers on head-fi with varying success.

I agree, and someone on head-fi stated that the UR40 has flat back drivers while the KSC75 has roundback drivers. That, and the UR40 sounds like utter sh*t compared to the KSC75. It's like trying to hear the KSC75 placed under a pillow. It's muddy, boomy, and the bass is VERY uncomfortable on my ears. They remind me of the Skullcrushers without the fake vibrations. I honestly don't know how anyone could compare them to the KSC75. Night and day, gents.
post #7571 of 10626
Hey guys, considering how crappy my headphone out on my netbook is, which is the DAC that costs $100 that you guys really like?

WTC, looking at you.

The clipping and distortion out of my headphone out has gotten to me for the last time. I'd still want a DAC/AMP combo, but for $100, I'd settle for just a DAC for now, and save up for a good stand alone AMP later.

I really need to send my netbook back to Asus. Nothing but issues from day one, but then I swapped out the RAM.
post #7572 of 10626
nuforce udac

i dont think you can get anything better for that price... the aune has had some good feedback/reviews and is a little cheaper, even if it performs a little less the bang/buck should be about the same. either will be better than your netbook.

nevermind, that price is the aune nano, which apparently stinks.
post #7573 of 10626
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

nuforce udac

i dont think you can get anything better for that price... the aune has had some good feedback/reviews and is a little cheaper, even if it performs a little less the bang/buck should be about the same. either will be better than your netbook.

Alright. It's settled then. I'll be getting that sometime soon, unless you think just getting a newer Mixamp (which apparently does DAC duties while the old one doesn't) would be fine for me. I can then sell my old mixamp to a friend for cheap, and get some of that money back... =/
post #7574 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Shin CZ View Post

Hey guys, considering how crappy my headphone out on my netbook is, which is the DAC that costs $100 that you guys really like?

WTC, looking at you.

The clipping and distortion out of my headphone out has gotten to me for the last time. I'd still want a DAC/AMP combo, but for $100, I'd settle for just a DAC for now, and save up for a good stand alone AMP later.

I really need to send my netbook back to Asus. Nothing but issues from day one, but then I swapped out the RAM.

NuFoce uDac... plus, it's still pretty popular on Head-Fi... so you could always sell it down the road if you want something that combines the two. I figured that I'm going to be using my netbook as a source for awhile too (why would you need a 160GB HDD on a Netbook is beyond me)... so the uDac will see constant use for me anyway.
post #7575 of 10626
i think i'm going to get the AUNE mk2... it's got a dac for my pc (usb and spdif), and it'll also accept/amp analog input from RCA (gonna try from my mixamp)... you can also roll opamps to get the sound you want... seems like a nice little unit for ~$135-$150

post #7576 of 10626
"As can be seen from the above this is no piddling little circuit inside an aluminium enclosure... this is a VERY nice piece of kit indeed

The AD-744 is continuing to astonish me, this is quite simply the best I have yet heard through a pair of headphones..... I've obviously got it wrong all these years saying that computer as source is "****" Oh no it isn't! This is leaps and bounds better than any CD spinner I've heard and by quite some margin too.... I will be ripping all my CD's to the hard drive!

This is one of these VERY rare occasions where I'm actually reluctant to tamper with an amp.... the Aune is just fantastic and I really don't "need" any more out of it....

The AD-744 is about as far as I'm going with this one (maybe experiment with the other opamp too ) apart from feeding it with a decent 20V power supply.... seriously, if it gets much better than this I think I'll pass out.... this is a MAJOR step up in sound quality from amps like the Graham Slee Solo, it's just so expansive and musical sounding....

These guys (The Chinese) sure aren't copying from any of the current British designers, that's for sure... to my ears this is a totally "new" sound and the type of sound I have been looking for all these years.... the AUNE, the Beyer DT-770 and Apple Lossless files = headphone Nirvana for this listener."
post #7577 of 10626
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

i think i'm going to get the AUNE mk2... it's got a dac for my pc (usb and spdif), and it'll also accept/amp analog input from RCA (gonna try from my mixamp)... you can also roll opamps to get the sound you want... seems like a nice little unit for ~$135-$150


So what do you think of that for MY use? It's a DAC, so it works straight off my netbook, and it has an analog input so I can go:

Mixamp--->3.5mm to RCA cable (came with my Mixamp)--->Aune MK2, for my console gaming needs

Right? So this would work better than the uDAC for my needs...

Errm...it IS an amp as well, right?

edit: nvm, it has both an amp and dac mode. This looks awesome. I was hoping for the D4, but this is cheaper...and I'm assuming with the same functions...
post #7578 of 10626
People,

Has anyone considered the Senheiser HD800? I have it connected to my preamp when Noise cannot be made (baby sleeping) by the my hometheater and for music, movies or games it is very transparent and very low fatigue.

All the best,

Michael
post #7579 of 10626
SURE, but most of us aren't rich. O__O

edit: That came out wrong.

I mean, I'm sure it's an awesome headphone, but many of us can't really test out headphones for gaming when they are over $1000.
post #7580 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Shin CZ View Post

SURE, but most of us aren't rich. O__O

Well before that I had the HD 650 which is considerably cheaper and with a very good performance. You can find it for less than US$400,00.

All the best,

Michael
post #7581 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Shin CZ View Post

SURE, but most of us aren't rich. O__O

edit: That came out wrong.

I mean, I'm sure it's an awesome headphone, but many of us can't really test out headphones for gaming when they are over $1000.

No Problem! It wasn't cheap for me too but I got an excelent deal and it was the only way I could retain some semblance of performance from my homehteater which I have put together over the course of ten years.

I also like to listen to music in a Audiophile manner. All that I have learned from this practice has made me want the best sound out of my games.

Of course that is the final objective but in the process there is the journey and during this journey I just enjoy what I have until I can save up for the next upgrade

All the best,

Michael
post #7582 of 10626
never really cared for the senn sound, i'd love to have some hd800's, but personally i chose the akg k702 over the hd650.


and shin, the aune is a dac+amp, and all opamps are socketed so they can be easily swapped out without soldering.

from what i gather, the nuforce is a great dac and happens to have a small amp section, and the AUNE seems to be a pretty good amp (for the price) and a good dac, but maybe not as good a dac as the nuforce.... in this case, the aune is exactly what i'm looking for, and i can also amp the mixamp output as you stated, which is one of the important features i need.

now i've gotta trackdown a browndog dual dip8 adapter, a couple AD744's (ADI, not audio technica) and a good ~20v dc power supply
post #7583 of 10626
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

never really cared for the senn sound, i'd love to have some hd800's, but personally i chose the akg k702 over the hd650.


and shin, the aune is a dac+amp, and all opamps are socketed so they can be easily swapped out without soldering.

from what i gather, the nuforce is a great dac and happens to have a small amp section, and the AUNE seems to be a pretty good amp (for the price) and a good dac, but maybe not as good a dac as the nuforce.... in this case, the aune is exactly what i'm looking for, and i can also amp the mixamp output as you stated, which is one of the important features i need.

now i've gotta trackdown a browndog dual dip8 adapter, a couple AD744's (ADI, not audio technica) and a good ~20v dc power supply

You'll have to teach me on what opamps are in the first place.

Are they something you buy seperately?

I really don't need the uDAC if the AUNE has a decent enough DAC. Seriously, anything that makes the sound off my netbook better is fine.

One question, seeing as it has a switch to change from amp to dac, I'm assuming it DOESN'T amp up sound in DAC mode? So what exactly does it do as a DAC? I'm sorry to say, I'm very much a newb in DAC/AMPs.
post #7584 of 10626
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

never really cared for the senn sound, i'd love to have some hd800's, but personally i chose the akg k702 over the hd650.


and shin, the aune is a dac+amp, and all opamps are socketed so they can be easily swapped out without soldering.

from what i gather, the nuforce is a great dac and happens to have a small amp section, and the AUNE seems to be a pretty good amp (for the price) and a good dac, but maybe not as good a dac as the nuforce.... in this case, the aune is exactly what i'm looking for, and i can also amp the mixamp output as you stated, which is one of the important features i need.

now i've gotta trackdown a browndog dual dip8 adapter, a couple AD744's (ADI, not audio technica) and a good ~20v dc power supply

I started looking at the Aune too... but I saw it for $179. Where did you find it for less? I'm really not too concerned, as the uDac provides more than enough power for all my headphones (but no analog in.... but then again, I'm not going to amp the Astro MixAmp). Since I already have it, I'll probably just go straight to the Little Dot I+ which can drive 600 Ohm cans (the uDac tops out at 250 Ohm). If I do the Little Dot... then I can still use it to amp the Astro MixAmp in the end anyway... so I guess I'll still have all the bases covered...
post #7585 of 10626
That aune should serve you well Shin. Looks like a nice unit for the price. The udac dac section probably beats the aune dac, but the aune amp is probably better than the udac amp. For the features and price, it would be tough to beat. I haven't heard this one, but my guess is that the D4 sounds better in both the amp and dac section, and is of course portable as well, but it's another $75 or so too, so that's something to consider. Otherwise, they do have the same basic features, with the aune also having spdif in.

With the aune you should be able to use it 3 ways... as a DAC only and hook up another amplifier to it, as an amp only and feed a different DAC into it, or as a DAC+Amp where it's the dac and the headphone out is amped.
post #7586 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Shin CZ View Post

Alright. It's settled then. I'll be getting that sometime soon, unless you think just getting a newer Mixamp (which apparently does DAC duties while the old one doesn't) would be fine for me. I can then sell my old mixamp to a friend for cheap, and get some of that money back... =/

Can you clarify what you mean by the newer mixamp does dac duties where the old one doesn't? I've never heard anything about this before, and it doesn't make sense? Just to be clear, any device that takes a digital input, like optical, and outputs analog, like rca or headphone out, has a DAC in it.
post #7587 of 10626
Question 4 u guys... I've seem to generate a lot of praise on Head-Fi for the "Dark Knight" headphones. If I were contemplating on selling... what kind of price would you put on it's value (you guys being gamers and the intended audience anyway). Would it make a difference if I built the "Y" cable to turn the 4 pole into dual 3.5mm (Stereo & Mic) for PC use?
post #7588 of 10626
See, I confused you. From the online manual on the mixamp site, it says that the Mixamp is capable using USB as an audio in from the PC (which also allows voice chat for PC games or something). I, of course have no way to test this as my old Mixamp doesn't do anything when I plug it into a computer except to charge it.

It's my assumption that a DAC like the AUNE or UDAC lets you connect your headphone to the these devices, while they are hooked up to the computer via USB. Or am I VERY wrong here? I'm trying to find a way to bypass my crappy headphone out. I thought a DAC would be it. When I say crappy, I mean it. I have to rotate the plug of my headphones until I get audio on both channels. It's downright crap.

I'd still want the D4, but damn...looks like it will never be in stock.
post #7589 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

Question 4 u guys... I've seem to generate a lot of praise on Head-Fi for the "Dark Knight" headphones. If I were contemplating on selling... what kind of price would you put on it's value (you guys being gamers and the intended audience anyway). Would it make a difference if I built the "Y" cable to turn the 4 pole into dual 3.5mm (Stereo & Mic) for PC use?

Atleast twice the price. If they are charging $199 for the A40's.. you should be able to get that price at a minimum for the AD700's with a built in mic thats "all murdered out" (car speak for all black)

(FWIW "all Dubai'd out" is car speak for bling-bling)
post #7590 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Daekwan View Post

Atleast twice the price. If they are charging $199 for the A40's.. you should be able to get that price at a minimum for the AD700's with a built in mic thats "all murdered out" (car speak for all black)

(FWIW "all Dubai'd out" is car speak for bling-bling)

Lol, I was actually shooting for $130 with both cables and a mic (headphones too... ).

On a side note... I DID IT PJ! I ordered my Little Dot I+

http://www.audiophilechina.com/cp-sh..._id2=2&s_id=24

I hope I don't regret it.

Now, I'm debating on either holding off for the SR225 or just go ahead and order the SR80i. If I go the SR80i... I'll order it this weekend, if I go for the SR225i... it'll be another few weeks before I order.
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