Originally Posted by Daekwan
I wrote out the below comments without even seeing your post. So eventhough it should clearly your questions, dont take anything said personal. Its simply general information.
A while back I listed out the additional features you get with the A40 headset and why they are best available solution as a GAMING HEADSET
. When bought as a combo with Mixamp, they provide even more value. Here you go in order of importance to me.
1. Durable build quality
. The headset frame itself is made from hollowed out metal. The speakers themselves freefloat in the frame and can even detach from the frame if necessary. I ordered black A40s, and game in a black executive office chair. Too many times I've taken the headset off, ran to the bathroom or grabbed a drink and came back and sat on these headphones. I've done it atleast 10x, definitely more. Im 6-3, 230lbs and I have never bent, cracked or broke the headset in anyway. With cheaper built headsets.. something would have broke by now.
I'm not going to comment on the build quality of every possible set that could replace the A40 and blanketly state that they are as good or better built than the A40, but I will agree that I find my A40 to be well built and sturdy, and can stand some banging around. I can't say the same for my modded AD700 as they feel a little breakable in comparison, but the K702 is just as sturdy, if not more so, IMO. It's fair to say that the A40 is a durable quality, but to state that the HPX, for example, is not, without having felt them in person or using them is a little misleading.
2. Best Mic in the business. This mic picks up my voice better than any mic I've used. Great sound is only half of the equation. Great voice communication is the other. My teammates always hear me loud and clear, if I tell them theres a guy hiding in the window.. they understood me 100%. Trust me other mics do not work this well, I've tried them. Its a boom mic which means it doesnt rub against me when I move around. I can switch it from left to right side or remove it completely. If damaged or lost, its easily replaceable.
I disagree. The A40 mic is very good, but both the labtec mic I have on my AD700s and the hyundai mic that I got for $3 shipped from dealextreme
that I use with my K702 are better IMO. They pick up my voice just as loudly and clearly, but do not pick up as much breathing or background noise.
The mic switch that I have mounted on the controller
3. Mute switch. Nothing bothers me more than when someone is gaming and doesnt mute their mic when talking on the phone, arguing with the signficant other, or screaming at their kids. You can do that with the A40's.. you cant with alot of other headsets and almost none of the custom solutions guys are building.
is better than the in line mute switch on the A40s. Even when/if I use my A40s I will use this same mute switch and ignore the astro one. With this mute switch, I can easily toggle mute without taking my hands off the controller, and I frequently do just that. Just as easy as reloading or changing weapons I can mute, and I don't need to fumble around for the switch during a game. In fact, I recommend you get one even with your astro setup as I feel it is extremely worth while.
4. Fold-flat speakers. I hate when I temporarily rest regular headphones around my neck and the big speaker cups are dig into my chest, neck and chin. Its so uncomfortable that I have to take them off. The A40 doesnt have this problem because the speakers are fold flat against your chest and rest comfortably.
Can't fault you here. The A40s are small and can easily be hung around your neck or something whereas I can't do this with the K702s and definitely not the AD700s. I could with the DT880s, though.
5. Resale value. As someone just pointed out you can sell the A40 headset on Ebay for almost all of its original price. Especially if you bought it with the mixamp combo, you can easily recoup your $120 investment into the A40 headset. How much can you sell your used headset for? I doubt if you even get back half of the money you paid for them.
Again, I can't fault you. The resale value here is not bad. It's especially good if you get them in the A40 system with the mixamp. You get as much or more than your money back. If you bought them at $199 without the mixamp though, you are getting the same, if not worse, return as you would on other sets like the HPX, K702, AD700, etc.
6. 2 terminations: 4 pole single or Y plug dual. Both cables are included. I can use the headset with the Mixamp (4pole), my iPhone (4pole) or my laptop (dual plug, seperate headphone and mic). All the necessary cables are included in the box. How much did you have to pay for that extra cable or adapter at Radio Shack you needed?
The adapter is only $10 from astro, or $15 on ebay. Not a terribly large investment when alternatives to the A40 headset cost less than half of retail anyway.
7. Quick disconnect adapter. Dont use it much but it again speaks of quality. I can disconnect just the headset from the above mentioned cable easily. I can also connect additional custom cables. If you ever needed to replace just the cable for some reason.
Totally not needed as even you say, but I guess if you see some utility in it, why not.
8. Customizable speaker plates. Yep its cheesy, but you know what else it is? Cool. Your gaming headphones are not this cool and you know it. I rock the fake-azz-wanna-be-pro MLG plates and get compliments on them all the time. And yep, I've had friends ask if I was a pro gamer because of the MLG symbo. It doesnt matter if you like them or not, because you didnt buy them for me. Even better when you buy your own speaker plates, you can put whatever design you want on them. For guys at a LAN party or bigger gaming event you can bet your azz they come in handy. Its easy to tell which A40's are yours. They even include a 3rd plate without a cutout for the (detachable) mic if you want to make the A40 headset into A40 headphones..
I actually do agree with you here. I think it's a cool feature, particularly for gaming headphones, but not really a "must have" or a dealbreaker.
I notice that overall you haven't mentioned any aspects of sound quality
either. But SQ is where most of us here put our focus. We are willing to sacrifice a (stock) detachable cable and speaker plates that we will never use for much better sound quality.
Again, I'm not trying to bash the A40, because it's just fine, and as you say, most people will be completely satisfied with it forever. It works straight out the box to give you a no hassle solution that will last a lifetime. And for most people it's good enough.
I just think that's misleading when you tout it as if it has many core features that other headphones and headsets don't have. Overall, even considering the important and extra features, I still feel that there are better values out there (HPX).
It seems that the HPX headset has almost all of the features you listed, costs less than the A40 headset does even used or in the A40 system, and actually sounds better too. It seems like a no brainer, yet you fight it