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post #7861 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Pink Millipede View Post

yea the mic isn't the biggest issue to me, as i rarely use it anyways. also that clip on isn't expensive at all.

However i would have to buy this cable

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...t=1#largeimage

as my tv is an older non-hd tv. my setup is below

really looking for a head set for the better sound and ability to crank the sound when at night.

If you do not already own a toslink cable, you should add one to your monoprice order.
post #7862 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Foe-hammer View Post

I've been looking for the same thing. Ideally the equalizer would be better before the mixamp, as not to distort the DH 5.1. But finding one with an optical in and out will be difficult. Having an equalizer after the mixamp probably would work, but it MIGHT interfere with DH. I'll look into this more and please keep us posted on what you find out.

Formulanerd also wrote “honestly you're probably better off picking a can that has the characteristics you want vs. trying to EQ the sound.”

One of the main reasons for looking to EQ the sound is so that one or two sets of cans can be optimized for my current favorite games and also work well with any future games. The following examples are not precise; however they help explain my desired benefits.

For Modern Warfare 2, most of the time, I would like the opposing team’s footsteps to be heard over air strikes, sentry guns, etc. Sometimes near the end of a match, just let me hear the unsilenced assault rifle in its full glory.

For racing games, I really enjoy the sound of the revving engine.

In some future game, who knows? There may be levels where it is best to add gain to the 500Hz sounds while reducing the gain from the 4000Hz background noise. Other games or levels may swap these so that the enemies can be heard at 4000Hz while the background noise is at 500Hz.

With a graphic equalizer, I could add or reduce gain around the key frequencies. I could even adjust the equalizer within a match or between levels and checkpoints. These adjustments may be less than ideal for music; but they could add enjoyment to some games.

The above helps explain why I am looking at equalizers, below is the reality.

So far my searching has reinforced the comments by formulanerd and foe-hammer. Trying to equalize the toslink dolby digital 5.1 (6 channels to equalize) severely limits my options. I might have found a Krell unit, but do not care to spend over $10,000. I passed over quite a few articles and products that discuss using a PC to equalize the dolby surround signal (I would like to keep my PC out of the process).

There are many more choices for equalizing the output after the DH processing using the astro output. Using headphone lead from the astro y-cable, the signal is now down to 2 channels (left and right) and analog. There are quite a few 2 channel equalizers. However, several people have told me that equalizing dolby headphone signals will mess with their positioning and soundstage.

Here is a link that may discourage you from trying to equalize the dolby surround signal. Look at the tip on the bottom of the page.
http://inethometheaters.net/faq_avreceivers.asp

If I do end up purchasing an equalizer, it will probably be equalizing the Dolby Headphone 2 channel signal. When I turn the equalizer on and adjust the sliders, I will be trading off surround positioning detail for frequency detail.
post #7863 of 10626
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Originally Posted by texwrx View Post

If you do not already own a toslink cable, you should add one to your monoprice order.

I see thanks. I notice when i plug the regular ear buds i use for the gym (z moda bass something) it says theres no Dolby digital for it and its only steroea, would buying a good set of head phones help with sound direction as hearing foot steps?
post #7864 of 10626
If I were you, I'd most likely go with the Mixamp + HPX. You should be more than fine with it, and it has good bass impact. You wouldn't be missing anything. The AD700s are most likely better in everything BUT bass, but I like SOME bass. However, the soundstage on the AD700s would spoil you, as there's almost nothing better until you get headphones worth almost triple the price of the AD700s.

As for EQ affecting positioing and soundtage, it's true.

Just adding a Fiio E5 after the Mixamp (with bass boost on = emphasized low end), the soundstage got noticeably smaller, though the positioning was just as good. Once I turned bass boost off, the soundstage opened up again.

I wouldn't eq a DH processed signal.
post #7865 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Shin CZ View Post

If I were you, I'd most likely go with the Mixamp + HPX. You should be more than fine with it, and it has good bass impact. You wouldn't be missing anything. The AD700s are most likely better in everything BUT bass, but I like SOME bass. However, the soundstage on the AD700s would spoil you, as there's almost nothing better until you get headphones worth almost triple the price of the AD700s.

As for EQ affecting positioing and soundtage, it's true.

Just adding a Fiio E5 after the Mixamp (with bass boost on = emphasized low end), the soundstage got noticeably smaller, though the positioning was just as good. Once I turned bass boost off, the soundstage opened up again.

I wouldn't eq a DH processed signal.


Ppfffffftttt.... AD700s are totally overrated!
post #7866 of 10626
Bah.

BTW, saw some pretty cool headphone posters on Ebay.

I want the monkey headphone one.
post #7867 of 10626
From looking at reviews online, it seems the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 are awesome and the fact i can get them for about 92 dollars is awesome. I think i will be able to notice a huge difference in sound. Also anyone know the cheapest place to get them? I've looked at Amazon and Newegg and both the prices are the same, however newegg has a warehouse closer to me and i can it in like 2 days on regular shipping.
post #7868 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Pink Millipede View Post

From looking at reviews online, it seems the Audio Technica ATH-AD700 are awesome and the fact i can get them for about 92 dollars is awesome. I think i will be able to notice a huge difference in sound. Also anyone know the cheapest place to get them? I've looked at Amazon and Newegg and both the prices are the same, however newegg has a warehouse closer to me and i can it in like 2 days on regular shipping.

I played with them again last night. Mine sound a little better than the stock ones. I've changed all the wiring and connections through out the entire headphone (stock wiring was tiny in the headset). I have at least 20hrs of my burn-in/use and countless hours that the previous owner had. I still think they're good headphones, and work excellently for gaming... but not the best. I still use/and would rather use my HPX setup. You have to manually stretch the HPX (as the clamping for is way too high), but like the AD700, the headband is metal and will stretch. The bass impact is light years ahead on the HPX over the AD700. The mids are also meatier on the HPX. The highs, well... forget it, the AD700s are great... even shrill to some point. What I don't like is how everyone claims that they have this HUGE soundstage when it sounds like you've flipped on the "HALL" DSP effect on your receiver. I can hear pretty the same things, locate the same things and everything else on the HPX that I can on the AD700. Hence, the reason why I don't feel like I have to ever go back to the AD700 for anything (music or gaming). So, mine will be going up for sale on Head-Fi in the next day or so. If you want to take a quick look at what I've done to mine... click on the "SWZ on Facebook" in my signature and go into the 'photos'... it's the one labeled "Dark Knight" Project.
post #7869 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

I played with them again last night. Mine sound a little better than the stock ones. I've changed all the wiring and connections through out the entire headphone (stock wiring was tiny in the headset). I have at least 20hrs of my burn-in/use and countless hours that the previous owner had. I still think they're good headphones, and work excellently for gaming... but not the best. I still use/and would rather use my HPX setup. You have to manually stretch the HPX (as the clamping for is way too high), but like the AD700, the headband is metal and will stretch. The bass impact is light years ahead on the HPX over the AD700. The mids are also meatier on the HPX. The highs, well... forget it, the AD700s are great... even shrill to some point. What I don't like is how everyone claims that they have this HUGE soundstage when it sounds like you've flipped on the "HALL" DSP effect on your receiver. I can hear pretty the same things, locate the same things and everything else on the HPX that I can on the AD700. Hence, the reason why I don't feel like I have to ever go back to the AD700 for anything (music or gaming). So, mine will be going up for sale on Head-Fi in the next day or so. If you want to take a quick look at what I've done to mine... click on the "SWZ on Facebook" in my signature and go into the 'photos'... it's the one labeled "Dark Knight" Project.

I'll have to ask my brother to let me use his account later today, i don't use facebook.
post #7870 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Pink Millipede View Post

I'll have to ask my brother to let me use his account later today, i don't use facebook.

I don't believe you need facebook to look at the page. Well, here is the Head-Fi posting.

PJ,

This is the headphone stand I was talking about. I had it designed with a large base to hold my Little Dot I+ (when it gets here) and uDac (or future Dac). The stand holds up to 4 headphones and the pegs in the back are for coiled cables.

Yes, I know... my desk is a mess... but once the Little Dot gets here... I'm gonna re-model anyway.
post #7871 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

I don't believe you need facebook to look at the page. Well, here is the Head-Fi posting.

PJ,

This is the headphone stand I was talking about. I had it designed with a large base to hold my Little Dot I+ (when it gets here) and uDac (or future Dac). The stand holds up to 4 headphones and the pegs in the back are for coiled cables.

Yes, I know... my desk is a mess... but once the Little Dot gets here... I'm gonna re-model anyway.

Cool man, looks good! Nice design. Are you thinking about staining?
post #7872 of 10626
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Originally Posted by PJ_Rage View Post

Cool man, looks good! Nice design. Are you thinking about staining?

Maybe, but first I'll have to figure out how to 'mod' it... j/k...
post #7873 of 10626
wow you made them look 10000* better, i don't understand why they went with such an ugly color scheme
post #7874 of 10626
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Originally Posted by Pink Millipede View Post

wow you made them look 10000* better, i don't understand why they went with such an ugly color scheme

Thx!

Mailman likes me!

- almost ready to build the cable, all I need is a proper pinout and I'm good!
post #7875 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

Thx!

Mailman likes me!

- almost ready to build the cable, all I need is a proper pinout and I'm good!

Just sent the cable today.. Those Futurtech plugs are very big & heavy, thats why I like them.. Can't say they add to the SQ or not.. But they are very robust & look cool..
post #7876 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

Just sent the cable today.. Those Futurtech plugs are very big & heavy, thats why I like them.. Can't say they add to the SQ or not.. But they are very robust & look cool..

Yea, it's all metal except for the compression fitting (which I guess has to be plastic). If I tossed this at someone... they'd know it!
post #7877 of 10626
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Originally Posted by KBI View Post

Just sent the cable today.. Those Futurtech plugs are very big & heavy, thats why I like them.. Can't say they add to the SQ or not.. But they are very robust & look cool..

Yeah they are super heavy duty. The pictures can not convey how big and heavy it is. I've heard from a few people that there IS a difference in sound, but who really knows with these things.

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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

Yea, it's all metal except for the compression fitting (which I guess has to be plastic). If I tossed this at someone... they'd know it!

Assault with a deadly weapon!
post #7878 of 10626
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Originally Posted by PJ_Rage View Post

Yeah they are super heavy duty. The pictures can not convey how big and heavy it is. I've heard from a few people that there IS a difference in sound, but who really knows with these things.

Assault with a deadly weapon!

When I get my D2000 or 702... I'm going to put the Furutech connectors on mine too.
post #7879 of 10626
Just a quick buffing... and she's all complete...
post #7880 of 10626
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Originally Posted by PJ_Rage View Post

Yeah they are super heavy duty. The pictures can not convey how big and heavy it is. I've heard from a few people that there IS a difference in sound, but who really knows with these things.

Assault with a deadly weapon!

Two of my recabled DT48a has them.. They really are heavy. No exageration. Improved sound or not.. They are totally bad ass, & nice way to pimp out your cans a bit.
post #7881 of 10626
some of futurtech connectors are really expensive like their new 3 pin XLR 150.00 or 175.00.. I guess that is worthy if you want a terminator type headphone.. Just the best parts..
post #7882 of 10626
I ran out of headphones to mod.... maybe time to take a long look at the HPXs and rip them apart...
post #7883 of 10626
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post #7884 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

I ran out of headphones to mod.... maybe time to take a long look at the HPXs and rip them apart...

Make woodies for my DT48
post #7885 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SaJe View Post

I got my Astro A40 Audio System few days ago and I must say, I'm a little disappointed.

Sound connections:

TV -> Mixamp (left/right RCA)
Xbox360 -> Mixamp (coaxial)
PS3 -> Mixamp (toslink)

Both Xbox360 and PS3 is connected to my TV using HDMI.

The surround when Dolby Headphone is enabled on the Mixamp sounds weak compared to when Dolby Headphone is disabled. Music sounds way better in pure stereo mode also, but that was expected.

Only tested with a few blu-ray movies and some MP3's from my PS3 so far, but I'm really not impressed with what I hear.

Maybe I have gotten used to the real 5.1 surround sound from my old Sharkoon V2 headset or my Mixamp is defective.

I will test them some more with both games and movies and will return here later with my conclusion.

Hi. I just like to say that my Mixamp is not defective, nor is my setup wrong. It helped I turned the master volume up a little more. If the master volume is too low I'm having difficulty separating the front speakers when Dolby Headphone is enabled.

I have tested it with the THX audio test from a Star Wars DVD played from my Xbox360 and PS3. On both consoles I can clearly hear the difference in the surround sound when disabling and then enabling the Dolby Headphone mode on the Mixamp. I also tried listening with my eyes closed and I could pinpoint the supposed positions of all the speakers and I could hear the Sub-woofer when Dolby Headphone was enabled, but not when it was disabled.

The only game I have tried so far with the Astro set is Everybody's Golf: World Tour on my PS3 and the sound in that game is much more detailed with the Astro set than with my old Sharkoon V2 set. I now hear details on the golf course's surroundings I never noticed before with the Sharkoon. It was kind of strange at first, but now it's pure joy.
post #7886 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SID3W8Z View Post

Just a quick buffing... and she's all complete...


nice, i need to recable my alessandro's, but first i want to figure out a way to keep the cups from rotating 360*
post #7887 of 10626
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

nice, i need to recable my alessandro's, but first i want to figure out a way to keep the cups from rotating 360*

That's easy... put your head in-between them!
post #7888 of 10626
well over time they get all twisted, regardless
post #7889 of 10626
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Originally Posted by SaJe View Post

Hi. I just like to say that my Mixamp is not defective, nor is my setup wrong. It helped I turned the master volume up a little more. If the master volume is too low I'm having difficulty separating the front speakers when Dolby Headphone is enabled.

I have tested it with the THX audio test from a Star Wars DVD played from my Xbox360 and PS3. On both consoles I can clearly hear the difference in the surround sound when disabling and then enabling the Dolby Headphone mode on the Mixamp. I also tried listening with my eyes closed and I could pinpoint the supposed positions of all the speakers and I could hear the Sub-woofer when Dolby Headphone was enabled, but not when it was disabled.

The only game I have tried so far with the Astro set is Everybody's Golf: World Tour on my PS3 and the sound in that game is much more detailed with the Astro set than with my old Sharkoon V2 set. I now hear details on the golf course's surroundings I never noticed before with the Sharkoon. It was kind of strange at first, but now it's pure joy.

Sounds good.
post #7890 of 10626
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

well over time they get all twisted, regardless

There is always the rod shaft limiter mod, where you thread in a small thumb screw or grub screw to keep the shaft from slipping down the block. That should keep it at your preferred height as well as keep it from spinning (easily that is).
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