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post #1 of 8
8/22/07 at 4:59pm
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If perhaps all the junk going down at the moment is due to some sort of neutrality contracts that Paramount and Warner made with BDA at the beginning of the format war. Perhaps subsidized Blu-ray replication, monetary payoffs, who knows.

All I know is that the change from HD-DVD to Neutral was so sudden, everyone expected money changed hands. Now perhaps those contracts are expiring, Blu-ray replication is not longer being subsidized for the two neutral studios, and Paramount and Warner are not renewing their neutrality agreements.

It all just seems to close together to be anything else than contracts expiring.
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post #2 of 8
8/22/07 at 5:12pm
Blu-ray 50 replication is not financially viable along with Sony being just about the only source for producing BD50's. Do you think GM is gonna want to rely on using Toyota assembly plants?
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post #3 of 8
8/22/07 at 5:39pm
But, But, But...I thought VC-1 was so amazing you could easily encode to a 25gb single-layer Blu-Ray without lose of quality. Oh wait! 30 gb is the exact threshold that VC-1 becomes perceptually lossless. I forgot.
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post #4 of 8
8/22/07 at 5:54pm
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But, But, But...I thought VC-1 was so amazing you could easily encode to a 25gb single-layer Blu-Ray without lose of quality. Oh wait! 30 gb is the exact threshold that VC-1 becomes perceptually lossless. I forgot.

Since when is 50Gb not required and needed? I guess the Paramount bomb changed the game.
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post #5 of 8
8/22/07 at 5:56pm
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But, But, But...I thought VC-1 was so amazing you could easily encode to a 25gb single-layer Blu-Ray without lose of quality. Oh wait! 30 gb is the exact threshold that VC-1 becomes perceptually lossless. I forgot.

No one said that but you.
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post #6 of 8
8/22/07 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by skawhomp View Post

If perhaps all the junk going down at the moment is due to some sort of neutrality contracts that Paramount and Warner made with BDA at the beginning of the format war. Perhaps subsidized Blu-ray replication, monetary payoffs, who knows.

All I know is that the change from HD-DVD to Neutral was so sudden, everyone expected money changed hands. Now perhaps those contracts are expiring, Blu-ray replication is not longer being subsidized for the two neutral studios, and Paramount and Warner are not renewing their neutrality agreements.

It all just seems to close together to be anything else than contracts expiring.

I've thought the same thing. One day this whole format "war" will make a great movie!
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post #7 of 8
8/22/07 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by javayoda View Post

But, But, But...I thought VC-1 was so amazing you could easily encode to a 25gb single-layer Blu-Ray without lose of quality. Oh wait! 30 gb is the exact threshold that VC-1 becomes perceptually lossless. I forgot.

Considering the cost to make a 30gb disc is still cheaper than a single layer BD25. Makes sense to go hddvd, you get an extra 5 for less and current dvd lines can be upgrade to handle more capacity and produce both regular and hd dvd.

From a scaling point of view, the economics behind bluray aren't viable with the current market conditions.
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post #8 of 8
8/22/07 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty View Post

No one said that but you.

So 25 gb is more than sufficient for encoding with the wonderous VC-1 codec?

So what's Paramount's beef? Oh that's right - somebody gave them $150 million.
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