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The "E-A-G-L-E-S Nest" Construction has begun!

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In dedication to our departed Soldier, a Warrior, a Gladiator, a true Spartan by the name of "Jeremiah Trotter", the construction of the EAGLES Nest has begun. Truly one of the very best Linebackers to ball in the City of Brotherly Love.




Like many others, I have been roaming these AVSforums for a few years. Admiring the great looking Home Theaters of those who allowed us to get a peak inside of their homes. So here is my chance to share and seek the wisdom and knowledge of the many Home Theater enthusiasts that roam these forums.

This will not be a Dedicated Home Theater. More like a General Home Theater and Media/Game Room. But I know the hardcore enthusiast hangs out here (and in the other forums also) and I wanted get some feedback from the you all. As I said before this will not be a Dedicated Theater but I would definitely like to have some sound isolation. Mainly avoid sound traveling to the 2nd and 3rd floor of the house. So I will not be doing and DD or GG in this construction. Maybe in the future. I am just getting my feet wet. Enough rambling.

Here is the scope of the project. I am remodeling a 19' x 32' x7' basement. One half of the room will be the Media Room which 10' x 19'. The other half will serve as a Game Room/Laundry Room/Home Office. I always see request for pictures so there will be a few pics to follow so you can see the layout.

The Equipment:
Display Source:

• Mitsubishi HD1000 or Optoma HD70 Front Projector and Samsung 50” 1080P Slim-Depth DLP HDTV
• 2 x 15” LCD Monitors in the Game Room mirroring whatever is playing in the Media Room

Source Component:
• Motorola HD Cable Box
• HTPC possibly w/ Dual Cable Card Tuner
• 2 - 3TB Windows Home Server
• Xbox 360 w/ HD DVD Addon
• Bravo D1 Upconverting DVD Player
• Xbox (original w/ XBMC)
• Playstation 2 (possibly PS3 in future for Blu Ray)

Audio Source:
• Onkyo TX-SR605 or Yamaha RX-V661
• Athena Audition Series (I own a 5.1 set of these already. 2 x AS-F1, 1 x AS-C1,
2 x AS-B1. I may add a pair of AS-R1 to the mix)

Here are some pics of what it looks like now and renderings of the finished project.

Floor Plan:



Back wall of Media Room:






Screen wall of Media Room



Screen up:


92" or wider Screen down:



Future location of Pool Table:








Well thats enough for the photos. I am open to suggestions on equipment and layout. Looking at the framing that was probably put up 20 to 30 years ago, should I take this down and put up 2 x 4s' framing around the basement or leave it as is? Most of the current framing is on every 16th. Any suggestions on sound isolation. I would like to keep the sound in the basement and not traveling throughout the house.

I am on a very tight budget of $5,000.00 for the construction portion. Most of the work I will do myself. I am having a HVAC guy run some duct work and some more returns in the Media Room. And an electrician to do some rewiring. I will handle most of the Low Voltage wiring. I already have runs of 2-Cat5e and 2-RG6 running through 6 rooms throughout the house. Everything will home run into a closet in the basement. I will run Conduit to the projector location and the Screen wall while everything is open.

In the future I would like to do some Home Automation throughout the house. Add things over time:
Whole house Audio: NuVo Concerto
Lighting: Zwave or Insteon
Security: Elk M1

Please chime in!

Curtis
post #2 of 32
Well, your pictures aren't showing up, so I won't ask any questions or comment until they are visible since they will probably tell me alot about the space. It sounds like it will be awesome though. I wish I had a basement that large.

I will say that you are going to have to find another name for your room....."The Nest" is already in my basement!!!! What part of Philly are you in....I'm in the South Street area.
post #3 of 32
Curtis, some of the free photo sites won't let you imbed images on other sites, unless you become a paying customer. You can post a link, but you can't imbed.

Bud
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Originally Posted by krooooog View Post

Well, your pictures aren't showing up, so I won't ask any questions or comment until they are visible since they will probably tell me alot about the space. It sounds like it will be awesome though. I wish I had a basement that large.

I will say that you are going to have to find another name for your room....."The Nest" is already in my basement!!!! What part of Philly are you in....I'm in the South Street area.

Sorry about the pics not showing up but they should be fixed now. Thanks for info Bud. I had a feeling there was a reason most people were using Photobucket and not Flickr.

Kroooog, glad to see another Philadelphian on the forum. I live in South Philly so we are probably not to far from each other.
post #5 of 32
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Some more pics and renderings:

The Laundry area







Demolition started 3 hours later - Down with the Wood Paneling:













post #6 of 32
Here comes the best advice your ever gonna get... from a fellow NFL lover (Eagles the most, but I love the entire NFL, and watching all of them on the Sunday Ticket on a 110" screen is true bliss)....

Get the screen up, and the projector (best deals are now with everyone pushing out 07s for the new 08s) setup a basic surround sound and enjoy "The Most Wonderful Time.....of the Year"....and when it's over in Feb, and it's cold wintertime around here in Philly with nothing going on on Sundays....start your construction !

This year, NFC runs through Philly....it will be a shame to have the Birds playoff run and for you not to see it in 110" high def with friends and family...

Told you it was the best advice....enjoy the season, and remember who told you.
post #7 of 32
"Audio Source:
• Onkyo TX-SR605 or Yamaha RX-V661
• Athena Audition Series (I own a 5.1 set of these already. 2 x AS-F1, 1 x AS-C1,
2 x AS-B1. I may add a pair of AS-R1 to the mix)"

I would slightly upgrade the receiver to an Onkyo 705 or higher, particularly if you plan to go with 7.1 (now or in the future).

I believe the 705 and higher Onkyos can expand a 5.1 multi-channel PCM soundtrack (i.e, HD DVD and/or Blu-ray sources) to 7.1 -- while the 605 can not.

You'll be better off anyway, with a slightly higher end receiver -- since that is really the nerve center for your system.
post #8 of 32
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Originally Posted by caesar1 View Post

I would slightly upgrade the receiver to an Onkyo 705 or higher, particularly if you plan to go with 7.1 (now or in the future).

I believe the 705 and higher Onkyos can expand a 5.1 multi-channel PCM soundtrack (i.e, HD DVD and/or Blu-ray sources) to 7.1 -- while the 605 can not.

You'll be better off anyway, with a slightly higher end receiver -- since that is really the nerve center for your system.

By the way, I'll be watching the Eagles in HD on this 114 inch beauty (theater was ready in March, so I've been waiting 6 months for football season to start):


Caesar1:

I have to see how I can squeeze the Onkyo 705 into the tight budget. The extra umphhh and features would be welcomed. What kind of Surround Speakers you have on the wall in you Theater? They look like Athena AS-R1's. Your setup looks great. I would love to see some more pics.

Plasma George:

Great advice!! This is probably the WORST time of the year to start some construction project, Especially with Football season 2 weeks away. But the demolition has begun and the process is in motion. I always wonder how many people from this area was trolling around these forums.

I really need some suggestions whether or not to tear down the existing Framing or leave as is. There are pics of the existing framing posted at the beginning of the thread.
post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by curtis104 View Post

Caesar1:

I have to see how I can squeeze the Onkyo 705 into the tight budget. The extra umphhh and features would be welcomed. What kind of Surround Speakers you have on the wall in you Theater? They look like Athena AS-R1's. Your setup looks great. I would love to see some more pics.

Those side surrounds are Paradigm Studio ADP 590's.
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Originally Posted by curtis104 View Post

Plasma George:

Great advice!! This is probably the WORST time of the year to start some construction project, Especially with Football season 2 weeks away. But the demolition has begun and the process is in motion. I always wonder how many people from this area was trolling around these forums.

I really need some suggestions whether or not to tear down the existing Framing or leave as is. There are pics of the existing framing posted at the beginning of the thread.

"Keep it simple stupid"....put the drywall right on those framing pieces already there....lower cost, and faster. You'd probably stuff with insulation for sound and thermal, maybe a vaporbarrier up against the concrete wall.
You're gonna here advice from guys with $5,000 theaters, and those with $50,000 theaters...it's a tough call who to listen to.
I read a post on here before I got started that was belittling all the $$$ spend in acoustic treatment and the like....and he said just build it ! So I did....and my room rocks, it's my favorite in the house, and I can't get enough praise from people blown away by look and feel and sound of the room.
PS---I have a new Onkyo TSXR504...also have an older 502 for the Plasma setup....both are 75watts rated and both are more power than I ever need, even during "Showoff time".
Monoprice has a 4x1 HMDI switcher for $50....Monoprice is GOLD for all cables, any length !...you're welcome.
ALSO...I'd try to get all those wires in the ceiling joist bays, or behind the vertical supports so you can preserve every bit of that 7' ceiling !
and although it's harder, get a couple friends and drywall with the ceiling.....more beautiful, professional, and you'll get more height from the ceiling.
post #11 of 32
Go Birds. My carpet is coming on Sept.13th so I hope to have my theater ready for most of the season.

-T.Wells
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Well I plan to spend the weekend rewiring. Hopefully I will get the recessed ligts in. I purchased 6 x 6" Halo IC Airtight cans from HD. I am thinking of putting 3 - 4" cans in a 12 x 12 soffit running along the back wall and the screen wall. Can anyone suggest a motorized screen, anywhere from 92" on up (given the size of the room)?
post #13 of 32
Curtis,
What program are you using to do your renderings?
post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by krooooog View Post

Curtis,
What program are you using to do your renderings?

I used Sketchup. You can get it free now from Google. I just started using it about 2 months ago but purchased it a year or two ago. I got inspired when I seen some of the renderings that Raptor was posting on the forum. Just recently got around to trying it out. Not hard to learn. also there is a Video podcast that does tutorial on using sketchup
post #15 of 32
Ahh, a fellow Birds fan.

There are a few Eagles fans here, and some Eagles message board members too. I'm sure, with a title like that, they will start to find your thread.

I took a bit of a hiatus from my room because I started my own business and there were no more funds. Now I found out my wife is pregnant and so I'm now trying to get back to finishing the basement before the Honey-Do list starts to increase in size for the new baby.

Good luck with it all and be ready to dedicate weekends and nights in order to get it done by Playoffs. You think it's plenty of time, but it never is!
post #16 of 32
That room looks great! One of the tidiest ones I've seen. Is now a bad time to mention I'm a Cowboys fan?

If you didn't kill me when I showed up with my jersey, I'd love to watch games in there.

Richard
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Originally Posted by AVSRichard View Post

That room looks great! One of the tidiest ones I've seen. Is now a bad time to mention I'm a Cowboys fan?

If you didn't kill me when I showed up with my jersey, I'd love to watch games in there.

Richard

Thanks for the compliment but showing up with a Cowboys jersey would definitely not be a good idea. You heard what happen to Santa well take that and multiply by ten. LOL
post #18 of 32
Curtis -

I've kind of lost track of whihc pics are yours....is your room still down to the studs? Form the pics it look like that wood is pretty wet. Ot is it "aged?" If it's wet, you may run into warping as it dries. ALso, are the pieces attached to the concrete pressure treated? You may run into some problems there once it's covered up. Have you considered using Integrity Gasket? About $100's worth ought to do your whole room.

GO Eagles! Football season gets pretty interesting aorund here at MY house (Northern VA). I watch all the Eagles I can, my wife's a Packer fan ("SEE, honey? In HD 100" screen Brett's not so cute!" It'll be a VERY interesting Week 1 at my house), most everyone else is a Redskins fan and then there is a large Ravens base)

Good luck,
Tom (originally from South Jersey)
post #19 of 32
Curtis,
This thread is YOUR construction thread and will show a timeline of your construction, and people are confused on the 1st page. You've got your pictures, your computer images, and there are also pictures of Caesar's home Theater, this is confusing AVSers....AVSRichard is commenting about Ceasar's Theater, Tlogan thinks he know what's yours.

What you need to do is PM Mr. Caesar, and kindly ask him to delete his pictures....he needs to add a link in his Signature and refer people to click there to view his stuff.
post #20 of 32
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Originally Posted by Plasma George View Post

Curtis,

What you need to do is PM Mr. Caesar, and kindly ask him to delete his pictures....he needs to add a link in his Signature and refer people to click there to view his stuff.

Done. Except for the one where his quote includes a pic.
post #21 of 32
WOW...that was fast, nicely done.
Why don't you put that nice room in your sig !

EDIT---I see you already did.....nice room, I remember seeing your colors, and stealing the excellent red/black combo !
post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

Curtis -

I've kind of lost track of whihc pics are yours....is your room still down to the studs? Form the pics it look like that wood is pretty wet. Ot is it "aged?" If it's wet, you may run into warping as it dries. ALso, are the pieces attached to the concrete pressure treated? You may run into some problems there once it's covered up. Have you considered using Integrity Gasket? About $100's worth ought to do your whole room.

The room is still down to studs. I am doing work whenever I can. Working two jobs right now so I don't have much time but I get in there when I can. The wood is not wet but probably have been up there for a good 20-30 years. My GF bought the house 10 years ago and I think the house is 40 years old (someone wrote a date on the wall Feb. 1966). The basement has not many problems with water that I know of and stays pretty dry. I am going to try and go with the existing framing.
Update:
I picked up 30 sheets of 5/8" 4 x 8 drywall this weekend from HD. I have managed to put up the recessed lighting but have not wired them. I plan to spend the weekend running Low Voltage wiring. I am considering putting a soffit on one wall so I can use 2" PVC for conduit instead of the 3/4" flex Conduit I purchased from HD this weekend.
I have an electrician coming to rewire a few things on Friday. After taking down the horrific Wood Paneling we found 2 big cracks in the wall that ran from the ceiling to the floor which may have come from the house settling/shifting. So I have a Masonry guy who is going to work on that next week. Then on Sept. 15th I have a HVAC guy coming to run some duct work along the wall where the stools and table are. He will be installing to 2 hits in the Media Room and the same in the Game Room. After that it will be left up to me to finish the rest with some help of course.
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by Plasma George View Post

.nice room, I remember seeing your colors, and stealing the excellent red/black combo !

I have already planned on going with the same color scheme. Burgundy is one of my favorite colors. I can't wait to get to point where I am painting. Wowwwww!
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Here is a pic of the soffit I am planning to build to run Low Voltage wire through. It will home run into the closet opposite of the Washer and Dryer. Currently I have a pair of Cat5e and RG6 ran to 6 different rooms throughout the house. I am adding 5 more runs of RG6 to each room and wiring for Projector and Speakers for the Media Room.



Also some pics of the duct work that is going to be added:



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post #25 of 32
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I don't have much time but I get in there when I can.

Mine is taking forever! LIFE seems to keep getting in the way. By "wet" I meant new from the factory that hasn't been compeletey kiln dried. So, it appears to be "aged." You're probably OK there then. It IS good news that basement is dry.

Good luck!
Tom
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Here is what I like my screen wall to look like:



This pic was taken from bb_bones thread:

My Apartment LCD/Projector Setup

Man I would have love a SWEET setup like that in college. I am Green with Envy. Very clean setup. I love that A/V cabinet but can not convince myself it is worth the money. I believe it is made by BDI.
post #27 of 32
Excellent - another Eagles fan! You have given me inspiration to resurrect my construction thread. Maybe you'll see something you like. I have off this week - I'll try and bring it back soon. Alot of progress and getting ready finally to put in that sound treatment order with BPape.

Depending on your degree of Eagles sickness the tip to wait may be quite prescient. You dont have much time left before the start of regular season. Now, if you get the same disease many have gotten from this site you may discover that your new room is taking alot longer than you expected to finish up.
post #28 of 32
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Here is an update. This has been almost exactly 1 year in the making. Kind of tough demoing and remodeling a basement while working 2 full time jobs. About 1 month from completion. I have to carpet the media room and finish up the tiling on the other half. Not including new furniture.















































post #29 of 32
How did I not see this thread yet.
Will be watching closely.
post #30 of 32
E-A-G-L-E-S......

Nice set up, now its time for me to get started on mine!
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