Official Toshiba Cinema Series REGZA -LX177 Thread, PART II with updated first post - Page 17

My room is not perfectly silent but I muted the TV and put my ear to the TV. Circled all the way around and could not hear anything. With my old rear projection Mits DLP it was obvious but still not an isssue for me. I can't even locate the fan, it isn't identified in the manual. Must not have a filter that needs cleaning.

Thanks Petrovy. Well, I was hoping to use it for the HD picture. Since Directv is coming out with more HD channels, I figured, why not save myself some stress and not worry about SD and just keep the Tosh and get the HD fine tuned (i.e. no green). But, from the people who have tried it, it has not worked (on this set, although I know it has worked well on others).

If Tosh will step up to the plate and fix this problem, or give me a good tv, then I will get some kind of calibrating disk (as far as HD, I am leaning toward the PS3, but hell, might get an HD DVD too) to help fine tune the pic. But let me ask people in this thread. I know it is still up in the air, but has anyone kept up to date with the format war? Is it looking like both formats will survive, or is there starting to be a front runner? I know Robert told me some big names have recently signed up with HD, but I think BD was the leader prior to that. I hate to waste money and purchase one format, only to have it obsolete in short order.

As I reported earlier I have had sound problems with HDMI. In my case it is a compatibility issue with the Comcast Moto DCH3416 box. Turning the TV off (in Power Save Mode, yes the slow way) restores the sound. In my case the sound got distorted when switching on an On Demand movie.

The local Toshiba rep came out on Saturday and verified it is a compatibilty issue. Today thay told me they were ordering a software update to go from version 53 to 55, the latest. They also said if this does not fix it there would be nothing they could do...

Note they were not interested in the firmware version but the software version which displays above it.

that's ridiculous. But thanks for letting me know, I'll stop wasting my time searching for one then....

Page 108 in the Owner's Manual states the fan stopped when the yellow led blinks.

Well folks looks like my unit will be here Friday, I also asked them what their policy is on DOA's. He said they give you 48 hrs to return the TV if anything is wrong with it meaning if the screen is cracked etc...

I also got a little bit of some inside info on our TV's, it seems Toshiba silently recalled the LX series from their distirbuters. Now he also told me that's why they couldn't get thier hands on the units during the recall. So for those of you with early build dates you might want to call your distributor to confirm it. Or better yet call Tosh and find out. I doubt they or any other distributor will tell their cutomers after a sale was done on the early adopters.

I also found out universal has a B&M so if anybody that lives near them, they let you buy direct. So far I have no complaints about their service they said two weeks and it was spot on, they give you 48hrs to return damaged goods, actually you don't do anything they send the Yellow truck to pick it up. Got a cheap 2 yr in house warranty from them so it's all good so far. I'll post some screen shots on Friday of some blu ray movies.

Regards, nimo/smurfer

FYI,

Sears Canada has a great deal on the 57LX177 at 3999$ CDN!!! (the 52LX177 is 4299$!!!) I'm pretty sure it's a typo but I tried the online order and it works...
I cancelled my order as It's too big for me... but reading their pricing policy says that if they don't accept that error they will cancel the order and/or credit your money so nothing to lose...

http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B000V...odeid=16358351

Take care,

Price error or not, they are not going to be able to give these things away.

yeah but at that price one could bring it back if it pushes green and when you return it without a proper receipt they say you get the lowest price the TV is selling for in the last 90 (or is it 30?) days...
So if you are lucky by the time that time you would get the full real price back (~6k$!!) and could buy yourself another TV..

But then again, I doubt they would miss such a big mistake... I wish I had the space as i would definitely try...

But at it stands now I had pretty much enough of all those LCD problems so I'm shopping for the Samsung 5084... And for once, everybody is happy in that thread.. sad state of affair.

take care,

If this is true, then this is just the type of info we need. Unfortunately, I got a later build date for my 2nd set, and it is still a mess.

I have been waiting for about a week and a half for the set (52lx177). If the recall is true and the green push is gone then that wait will be worth it. Does anyone know when the fixed set will be released? Nimo?

We will see. My second set is an August build date and still has the problems, so maybe the recall was for something else.

quiet in here tonight

So I hope no one minds my asking:
How do I find any info from CEDIA about Tosh's future LCD plans?
Thanks.

And now, back too the green push...

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/09/06...snb-lcd-lineu/

Interesting information. How reliable is your source? Maybe Robert can chime in on this one.

yeah, this is interesting info... Toshiba recall... i know a couple of people who are in the same boat as myself, ordered a 52LX177 weeks ago and are still waiting...

anyway, is there anybody out there that is really happy with there 52LX177 ? please, somebody tell me that i made the right decision

i know, user forums tend to be used to talk about issues a product is having, i guess if your a happy camper, no need to check out this tread, i guess.

thanks,
LinoD.

PS: i spent weeks comparing the 52LX177 to almost everything out there and man, the tv's i saw were just amazing... fingers crossed.

I know it has a fan, it's just very quiet - to the point it is hard to find.

My 57LX is fantastic except I have 1 Pixel stuck on green toward the center of the set. It is noticable to me in any scene that is dark in that area. I tried Jscreen fix software and the pressure method but it's still there. The manual says it is not covered by warrenty but I bought it at ABT so I might call and ask them for a replacement. Any thoughts on what to do?

I would sure call them for a replacement. What exactly does the manual say re bad pixels? Some sales guy at Sears told me LCD's were returnable only if 25% of the pixels were bad LOL. Guess I won't be buying a LCD from Sears.

That doesn't sound good, especially a later build, but remember these company's don't bother with testing their products. There are no more testing labs, well there are it's called being the consumer "beta tester guinea pig" I went through three 46" Sharps and received two dirty used TV's from Sharp. In the end I just returned it at Costco I tried to go the Sharp way and they dropped the ball big time.


Funny, I didn't mean it to sound so confidental it's just one of the guys at universal, his name is John ext:15. I've been in contact with him a few times and this guy seems to know his position and how they attribute their products and he seems to have good info on how they obtain name brand products.


I feel your paranoia, let me give you a short summary of my lcd history. Five years ago I bought a 26' Sammy at Circuit city. That's when I was introduced to 1360x768 resolutions. I went from 26 to 37" LNT series back in 02 during that time I had serious clouding and flashlighting along with ghosting.

03 Samsung announces a new line of LTN's they ship me their new line TV in place of the older model. I'm excited!! TV gets here I plug it in and now I get clay faces along with image retention with terrible ghosting. Not to mention their new design is pretty ugly it was halfmoon shaped that wrapped around the LCD with two side speakers.

Anyway that series design got canned in 6 months and they went back to flat looking TV's with Dnie off switches listening to some public response. In the end I got a refund from them.

Decide to go 2nd tier, tried Olevia, Sceptre, all ended up in refunding.

Decided to spend the big bucks and go with Sony ended up getting refund, serious clouding with really bad mura.

Went back to Samsung for the 4061f was the best TV I've had as far as PQ but it started the flashlighting and had a solid pillar on the right side still have to decide on this one... The pillaring is not that bad I'm living with it.

Decided to go with Tosh even though I bought their cheap 27" Theaterview series and even had an eariler CRT that lasted about three yrs prior to the Theaterview, I bought at BB a while ago. This CRT suffers from a yellow spot on the right side and a bluish green spot on the left side. It looks like crap but I never did anything about it because it's not that important to me.

Decided to try Tosh again for their LX series, What the hell I've been every where else in the LCD planet might as well try out the latest technology, I like the hardware specs and if Im "Martian" free I'll feel like a winner, but I will always be the guinea pig...


So the moral of the story is there is no LCD heaven... everything in one way or another has it's flaws. We live in an imperfect world with imperfect technology. Welcome to the world of in home beta testing!!


Regards, nimo/smurfer

It wouldn't hurt to call and ask your salesperson. I bought from ABT and they pride themselves on great customer service and follow-through. I had a DOA (wouldn't power on) 52LX and within 7 days - Midwest to LA - I had a new unit. It was a really smooth process. ABT salesperson >> ABT tech >> New Unit shipped/with Old Unit Pick-up.

Any one know the access code for the diag menu on the 42lx177? diag menu not the service menu.

I didn't mean to interupt your guys little mutiny so if you can get me that number i will be on my way and you guys can go back to wasting your time. Not to add salt but i have a june build and i get no green push. sorry guys i guess it is the luck of the irish

This statement is 100% incorrect. Their has not been any dealer or distributor recall whatsoever. Nimo, not doubting you one bit as I am sure you are reporting what you heard. But their is no truth to your statement.

-Robert

Xbox 360 hockey arrived yesterday the colors look great and vibrant for my 360 as well (which is 90% of the reason I purchased a LCD set) I was told by my tech that there are no fans. I also notice that after I game the hum seems to go away so its somehow related to the backlighting

Robert I was hoping you would chime in, thank you very much for your reply.

I have an August build of the 52LX177 and I'm loving it. There are a few minor issues.

The issues I have so far (need to find time to call up and complain):
a) Cannot turn on FilmStabilization w/o ClearFrame

b) ClearFrame in some cases will blur/grey out a block of fine lines. This is noticable as other fine lines around the block (square) will remain defined. One of the MPEG-2 test patterns show this behavior.

c) Close Captioning will turn itself back on, if after turning it off, you hit Info, then exit.

d) I couldn't get ThincNet to connect w/ my FreeBSD/Samba server. It could be that I'm running Samba as a PDC which they don't handle properly. I have a PS3, so the need for this isn't as great, as the PS3 also has media slots too.

Oh, and on the whole debate about too smooth movement, I read the link to the guy talking about why 24fps is just a limit and not a choice, and I think that it may be that Good Night and Good Luck was filmed w/ a digital camera or something. They talk about the "soap" look, and the other films that I've watched I haven't noticed the too smooth since.

Though now that I think about it, I'm not sure that I had ClearFrame on when I watched Crank, as I may have turned on Game mode. I wish there was a standard that the PS3 could tell the TV that I'm displaying realtime info, so keep processing to a minimal.

I have been waiting nearly two weeks for a set 52lx177. Is this a long time? Are other distributors having similar waiting times as well? I need to get the set into my house before the buyer’s remorse starts to kick in.

To be precise the manual on page 6 says:

"The LCD panel contained in this TV is manufactured using an
extremely high level of precision technology; however, there
may be an occasional pixel (dot of light) that does not operate
properly (does not light, remains constantly lit, etc.). This is a
structural property of LCD technology, is not a sign of
malfunction, and is not covered under your warranty. Such
pixels are not visible when the picture is viewed from a normal
viewing distance."