HD audio capable Hi end units - Page 2

I bet you can't, it seems to change everytime a question is asked.


Which is?




Then post them! Anthem dosn't, Mcintosh dosn't.

Same with the arcam AV9, I saw nothing on the site that said it has a 7 channel dedicated pre amp.

Of the ones I've reviewed recently: NHT Controller, Bryston SP2, Cary Cinema 11, Atoll PR5.1, etc. Wouldn't consider one without it.

Of the Macs, MX119, MX120, MX135 and MX136 have it. Of course, there's also Theta's Six Shooter.

Wrong! They do not, they have a built in 2ch pre amp from the C45 or C46.

The C45 is a multichannel preamp. Also, see this page: http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/mcprod/....%20compare.pdf
where it indicates that all four have an external 8 channel input. Now, if you want to further define/refine your definitions, you might find a way to exclude them.

I just checked out the NHT Controller, Bryston SP2 on their website and read nothing about 7 channel dedicated pre amps.

The denon AVR-4308CI has 8CH imputs! You obviously need to rethink what a dedicated pre amp is!

The AVR-587 has 8CH inputs.

Take the Mcintosh C200 as a 2ch pre amp and look at how much it costs, there is a reason this 2ch pre amp sounds so good. Now imagine what it would cost for a 8ch version of this for hometheater.

The outlaw990/7500. The 990 has 7 channels out plus 2 subs. The 7500 is dedicated for 5-200 watt channels at 8 ohms. Ill take my set up over the mac any day. Back to the post.

You need glasses.

This bluray_1080p guy knows it all.


I guess he should be Contributing Editor for Stereophile...

Hello Coldmachine,

I have a buddy that is using the Anthem D1 for his HT. And I considered the Anthem D2 for the Video Processing but since it does not do HDMI 1.3a for the Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS Lossless audio stuff from Bluray or HD-DVD I have since taken it out of consideration.

I am now considering the Denon 5308 to be used with my EAD Powermaster 2000 amplifier and possibly the new Denon Preamp/processor that is coming out. I think the seperate Denon Pre/pro has XLR outputs. I like the Denon stuff because of the HDMI 1.3, video switching and upconversion using the HQV Realty Pro, Audyssey Room Correction PRO, Being able to process the new HD Audio, and passthrough the SACD & DVD-Audio from my older player and music collection although I think these formats are obsolete.

Along with the other stuff like Satellite Radio, WIFI, etc...

Just my 2cents, BK

Link to it then! Maybe I do need glasses but I did not see it, and I think you are mixing up 8ch inputs with a dedicated 8ch pre amp.

Do you even know what a preamp is?

I guess not...

Are you mad SleeperSupra? I hope your car is better off then your hometheater.

Not mad, just noticed that almost all of your posts on this forum are confrontational. You must have a very depressing life to come on here trolling…

Oh he said it! I have helped more then argued, its just that a couple of threads ran long and most of my posts are in those threads.

Where is that {Ignore} button?

bluray_1080p is a true low-fi warrior.

All CDPs sound the same, right Blu Ray? Amps, Pre-Amps... they all sound the same! If you hear different, then you are dumb, and have placebo effect!

Speakers? Why buy Wilsons, Merlins or Kharmas when you can get Def Techs with built in subs for $500, they have way more bass!!! Right BluRay? What kind of idiot spends more than $500 on speakers???

Acoustics? Room treatments? What kind of fool would put up fiberglass in their room claiming such idiocy as "acoustic benefits" ???

People still play records? What!?!? 128kbit/sec MP3 sounds just as good, if not better! Right bluray_1080P

All - Abandon your quest for good sound and video. Instead, join forces with blu_ray, and start posting on high-end oriented threads about how mass market equipment sounds the same, if not better. Only then will you truly be an A/V Scientist

Why wouldn't you let your player do the processing? Have you read
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=789994 ?

EXACTLY!!!!

Glad to see someone else "gets it".

Read my post #10...

I believe the D2 will accept multichannel PCM over HDMI also.

MKtheater, the McIntosh pre/pros do have HDMI 1.1 but they are only video and will not send PCM audio via HDMI. I use to own the MX119 before the implementation of HDMI for Mac and was hoping the new MX120 was going to be able to handle multi channel audio via HDMI but it does not. Very disappointing.

This Bluray guy is very confrontational and reminds me of a gentlemen that use to post on the Mac site in audiokarma.org that was very rude especially concerning Mac gear and actually posted the same pics of the insides of Macs. He use to post in here and I believe he was banned but I have a feeling he is back with the new title of bluray_1080.

Yes Indeed.I vote they get rid of Kal ASAP and throw this expert in.

Kal,
What have your impressions been of the NHT Controller thus far? I have heard good things but havent read any "pro" reviews.

NOTE:BlueRay_1080p I am seriously starting to think that I have more knowledge in thie AV field than you,only difference is I claim to know nada and IREAD BEFORE POSTING

Yes we know already that you are a puts.But,thanks for taking the words out of my mouth !!!

That is not correct. I will quote Bob Pariseau from the Anthem D2 thread about that subject:

"Please note that the D2 and AVM-50 can ALREADY TODAY handle Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA as well as can be done within the limits of the D2/AVM50's 5.1 channel audio input path for HDMI PCM -- provided the decoder for the lossless packing format is in the player.

Players with TrueHD decoders exist today and people are enjoying TrueHD in all its glory right now withe D2 and AVM-50. If the studios go to a higher bandwidth PCM as input to their TrueHD encoding process, that will STILL work with the D2 and AVM-50

The upcoming Denon Blu-Ray player will apparently be the first player with a built-in DTS-HD MA decoder, and that TOO will work with the D2 and AVM-50 without requiring any change in them -- even if the studios go to higher bandwidth PCM.

Adding HDMI V1.3 and a lossless format decoder inside the D2 or AVM-50 would not make the audio any better than what can be done within the current D2/AVM50 design when using such players.
--Bob"