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post #1321 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Assayer View Post

You guys surely all realize that the poster of this cooked up 'rumor' is most likely crying tears of laughter at the sight off all these grown men arguing over two paragraphs of text that he strategically planted on a fan site.

It is possible that Warner could shift alliances today, but most likely you have all just played into the OP's hands.

Even worse, how often should we expect this spectacle to be repeated?
post #1322 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Assayer View Post

You guys surely all realize that the poster of this cooked up 'rumor' is most likely crying tears of laughter at the sight off all these grown men arguing over two paragraphs of text that he strategically planted on a fan site.

It is possible that Warner could shift alliances today, but most likely you have all just played into the OP's hands.

Hence the need for this Rumor Thread
post #1323 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

Let's be honest: he was obviously NOT banned for that one post. But you know that. He was banned based on his posts here. Now, whether or not you think that is justified is a valid question.

Hang on, what? Kosty was banned from Blu-ray.com because of what he has posted on another forum? That's insane. When are we going to see folks posting nasty things about AVS and its users on Blu-ray.com getting banned from AVS? That's right, never.
post #1324 of 1560
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Originally Posted by pteittinen View Post

Hang on, what? Kosty was banned from Blu-ray.com because of what he has posted on another forum? That's insane. When are we going to see folks posting nasty things about AVS and its users on Blu-ray.com getting banned from AVS? That's right, never.

I agree with an earlier poster. Blu-ray.com is a fan site. Plain and simple. AVS is not. There are plenty of BD and HD-DVD fans here on AVS, but a fan site it is not.

A wise man once said.. "Don't argue with fools. People from a distance can't tell who is who."

Or something like that.
post #1325 of 1560
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Originally Posted by pteittinen View Post

Hang on, what? Kosty was banned from Blu-ray.com because of what he has posted on another forum? That's insane. When are we going to see folks posting nasty things about AVS and its users on Blu-ray.com getting banned from AVS? That's right, never.

Our concern is what is posted here on AVS: we ask all members to Take the High Road in every post

Thank you
post #1326 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

This says a lot about you, doesn't it Lee?

Says he doesn't want WB going blue exclusive....neither do I
post #1327 of 1560
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Originally Posted by pteittinen View Post

Hang on, what? Kosty was banned from Blu-ray.com because of what he has posted on another forum? That's insane. When are we going to see folks posting nasty things about AVS and its users on Blu-ray.com getting banned from AVS? That's right, never.

Bluray.com is run by adults whom can only relate to children. Their membership is mostly 12-16 yr old gamers. You even mention another format and you are put to death. Quite sad to say the least. The site has a cult status IMO. Bluray.com Sucks!

EDIT...Sorry Mark I posted this after your post. But I still feel the same way. After reading over there and seeing so much hate for AVS it just sickens me.
post #1328 of 1560
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Originally Posted by roma_victor View Post

This was posted by a member called SA0CD at bluray.com today
(I have no idea how credible this is, just posting this FYI):

Hello,
I'm happy to announce that tomorrow 10AM PST Warner will issue a press release announcing they are going Blu-ray exclusive. I know many of you will not believe me and think this is simply a joke (which I dont blame you for) but I ask you one thing :
-Wait till tomorrow and see what happens. If the announcement doesn't come through, you can blame me all you want and ban me from the site.
Again I'm going to expect alot of doubful comments (or maybe some not nice ones ) coming but I'm fine with it. I'm some one you guys already know (and perhaps you have read my posts before ).
As for those folks willing to have a bit more faith in me, let me give you some insights for tomorrow's announcement :

-Tomorrow Warner will announce going Blu-ray exclusive. However they will honor their commitment to HD DVD (unlike Paramount to Blu-ray) and release all the titles that were promised this year. Starting 2008, Warner will release only in Blu-ray Disc format.
-Waner will release all the previously exclusive HD DVD titles on Blu-ray by end of Q2 2008.
-The first Blu-ray live title (including PiP) from warner will release early 2008.
-As for their joint promotion with Toshiba regarding bundling 300 with 3rd generation Blu-ray players, the offer will expire December 2007.
-New Line will also go Blu-ray exclusive starting 2008 (Hairspray hint anyone?)
-One big catalogue title will be released exclusive on Blu-ray by Q2 2008. I believe Peter Jackson has something to do with that title

Tomorrow 10AM Pacific Time. For those of you who will think I'm not telling the truth or being stupid, I respect that opinion. But coming tomorrow when Warner announces exclusivity, all of you have to send me a Blu-ray movie as a bonus .

btw

we would not ban anyone who posted a rumor here, as long as they try to comply in good faith with the rules of this thread
post #1329 of 1560
Well I guess we will see if this rumor is true or not today. Else, they person posting it should be banned.
post #1330 of 1560
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Originally Posted by hd nOOb View Post

So I did some digging from Sept 8th and found this.

Yea...rdjam said we would get some more info in a month..so I hope to read about that soon.
post #1331 of 1560
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Originally Posted by webphilosopher View Post

It really makes no sense for Warner to announce this early that they intend to be BD exclusive "starting 2008," yet maintain that they will "honor their commitment to HD DVD" and release all 2007 announced titles for HD DVD. Once they make the announcement, releasing on HD DVD would be pointless. Everyone knows how important Warner is for the outcome of this format "war." Even if they intend to become Blu-ray exclusive, it would make economic sense to "lead on" HD DVD owners at least until the end of the holiday season and then make the announcement, as many have suspected they had intended to do in the other direction -- namely, to give Blu-ray owners hope so that they would buy lots of Warner discs this holiday season. If they announce now, the only sensible route would be a clean break from the abandoned format. This isn't like Paramount's announcement: Nobody thought that would end the format war. Paramount could have kept making Blu-ray discs for a while, and they would not be selling a doomed format to supporters who knew it was doomed.

Let me put it more succinctly: Even if this supposed switch to BD is factual, what would it profit Warner to make this announcement at this time, yet not really act upon it until 2008? The only thing that might make sense is a leak that would force Warner to make an announcement earlier than it had planned.

The writer says, "I'm some one you guys already know (and perhaps you have read my posts before)." This is someone who is writing under a new username, either because he has been banned or because he has become unbelievable. He is changing handles because he wants to be taken seriously for a change, and people have laughed at his predictions in the past. He is someone who has fallen out of favor with both HD DVD and BD supporters, and he needs to get their approval again. If it should, by some miracle, happen at the appointed time, he would reveal his true and former identity and be redeemed rather than reviled.

Whatever the merits of the post content, this is the safest way for this very immature poster to get attention from others. He is crying out for recognition. He writes: "If the announcement doesn't come through, you can blame me all you want and ban me from the site." Okay, so he is willing to let his brand new username be banned from the site if he is wrong; but he will announce his old username if he happens to be right. This is a win/win tactic from a poster who is tired of being called a loser.

The poster tries to hide behind a new username and yet keeps talking about himself. He can't reveal himself, not because he would get into trouble over some non-disclosure agreement, but because he is afraid of being laughed at. This is clearly an adult with teenage emotions.

Why would an offer with Toshiba expire December 2007? Which part of December? The beginning? The end? The announcement will be at 10 A.M., but Toshiba's contract with Warner can't be pinned down to a part of December? And how can the offer expire until the last player with one in the box is sold? Will Warner ask Toshiba to rip the discs out of the boxes of the third generation players that are sold after such and such time?

Why would he want everyone to send him a Blu-ray movie as a bonus? He probably doesn't own any Blu-ray movies, maybe doesn't even have a Blu-ray player, can't afford either the player or the movies. If he were well-stocked, this statement would never even appear in his attention-getting attempt.

I apologize if this rambles a bit. It is late, and I am a bit tired. I am usually better at parsing texts like this. But I really do feel that this is someone on emotional life-support who needs a big "prophecy" to come true in order to be redeemed in the eyes of others who have made him a laughingstock or so he thinks.

It is very likely that he really believes that this is going to happen, that he talked to two "insiders" (low level employees) who said this was going to happen, and he bought it himself (again). Or maybe he was fed this misinformation simply because his "sources" knew it would make him go over the top.

Certainly, anything can happen these days, if enough money changes hands. The content of the post may well turn out to be true. It would be a sheer accident, and any such announcement won't be made tomorrow. But I don't think it will be because the poster is reliable. The whole tone of the post smacks of juvenile behavior, like that of the kid who wants any attention -- even bad attention -- he can get from his classmates or teachers.

Anyway, just my idle speculations about this strange post.

Where IS BeatBoy?
post #1332 of 1560
So, Peter Jackson and New Line are going to release Lord of the Rings on Blu-ray only in the second quarter of 2008?

And I have a ring that will make me an anonymous poster when I put it on.

I can't believe I'm up early in the morning posting to this thread. Either this has high entertainment value or I am at the low ebb of my miserable boring existence.

By the way, kudos to AVS for being a place where people of all different points of view can chat and laugh together.
post #1333 of 1560
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Originally Posted by SamwisetheBrave View Post

Where IS BeatBoy?

Living under an assumed name in the home theater witness protection program.
post #1334 of 1560
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Originally Posted by SamwisetheBrave View Post

Where IS BeatBoy?

It was not me who wrote this rumor. In-fact the Mods at Blu-ray.com mention it was an IP address from a Library in Canada. I have a suspicion of who I think it is, but I truly do not know.

If WB did go Blu-ray Exclusive this early it would be about 100 days earlier then I think they are planning on doing, but who knows, we will findout soon enough.

~Josh
post #1335 of 1560
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Originally Posted by webphilosopher View Post

Rob, I really like that animation.

I think that when this format war is made into a movie -- after Amir writes the book -- it will be first-rate entertainment. One really needs a sense of humor about this stuff. These threads are more fun than monkeys on a banana boat.


When the movie comes out which format will it be on? Ok I couldn't resist
post #1336 of 1560
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Originally Posted by dmcfan View Post

When the movie comes out which format will it be on? Ok I couldn't resist

35mm film.
post #1337 of 1560
Well - we are approaching 10 pages (300 posts) on a hoax/rumor. And as has been stated before - the sheer entertainment value of this has been a highlight in a very boring week for HDM.
post #1338 of 1560
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Originally Posted by beatboy77 View Post

It was not me who wrote this rumor. In-fact the Mods at Blu-ray.com mention it was an IP address from a Library in Canada. I have a suspicion of who I think it is, but I truly do not know.

If WB did go Blu-ray Exclusive this early it would be about 100 days earlier then I think they are planning on doing, but who knows, we will findout soon enough.

~Josh

Good to hear from you. I agree. If Warner were to do this, it wouldn't be today. That would be terrible timing, from an economic standpoint. They would announce a decision at this time only if they were compelled to do so because of a leak from their ranks. I don't think this post is such a leak.

The same is true if they are considering a move to HD DVD exclusively. It would be dumb to do it today. Let the holiday season roll on and the $$$ from disc sales for both sides come to Warner.
post #1339 of 1560
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Originally Posted by nfinity View Post

Well if you are waiting for me to cry or something if Warner goes BD exclusive, it certainly won't happen. It would be certainly proof that corporations have managed to completely kill consumer choice by simply tallying up on the side of the one that rips the consumers. It's their prerogative though. If they can find financial reasoning behind it, where Sony promises them long term subsidizing on the BD50gb discs and huge huge payoff then sure they can go that way.

But I don't think so. I still think they are more inclined to go HD DVD exlusive for so many reasons. They get money from licensing, get money from HD DVD camp + cheaper production where they can actually make more money per disc. Unless Sony gave them covered costs for everything in the next 3 years for example, I would be very surprised if they went Blu-Ray especially after latest reports of seriously declining PS3 sales, increase in X360 consumers (something like 3:1 one over PS3) and much bigger potential for these folks to go with $149 or $129 HD DVD add-on this season.

Paramount's decision was logical and explained. Warner going Blu-Ray exclusive would be completely illogical.

Warner going Blu would definitely make unrecoverable damage to HD DVD camp and would definitely sentence consumers to corporate mafia as it would be proof that today we really don't have any choice, we can be forced over a better and cheaper product through corporate setups.

HD DVD winning is more proof that there's still choice with consumers. A case where a finalized and full featured product with identical quality for 99% of consumers, 2-3 times cheaper then competition and backwards compatible would be replaced with expensive, niche driven, incomplete product where the plan is to get people to buy players now that they can't use to access features on discs tomorrow, so they end up rebuying equipment again just to access certain things.

But again, I don't think Warner will go Blu-Ray exclusive. With 1/3 of their title being HD DVD exclusive it wouldn't really make any sense.

Oh, please. Talk about someone not dealing in reality.
post #1340 of 1560
Perhaps this rumour was started to try and curtail HD-DVD software sales. I don't really follow DVDEmpire.. but if I look today...


46.53% / 53.47% in HD-DVD's favor.

I know its the end of week stats that matter... but it is Thursday... when is this stat final for the week?
post #1341 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Well - we are approaching 10 pages (300 posts) on a hoax/rumor. And as has been stated before - the sheer entertainment value of this has been a highlight in a very boring week for HDM.

Exactly. Even if this is a science forum, we are still here to have a good time. And this rumor or hoax has provoked lots of comity and comedy.
post #1342 of 1560
So, how many dollars would it take for Warner to shift its allegiance from HD DVD to Blu-ray? Half a billion to a billion, more or less?

How much would it take to give up ties to HD DVD in general and Toshiba in particular?

Heck, we can all be bought. Give me a million dollars, and I might buy a PS3. Anything less than that, and I will wait for the Cyberhome Blu-ray special.
post #1343 of 1560
"... from a Library in Canada."

Bwahahaha!

The guy is certainly having fun watching this overblown reaction (With just one post at a fan site, how easy).

He said 10AM because it's probably the time when he drinks his Starbucks and logs on to the internet.
post #1344 of 1560
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Originally Posted by webphilosopher View Post

So, how many dollars would it take for Warner to shift its allegiance from HD DVD to Blu-ray? Half a billion to a billion, more or less?

How much would it take to give up ties to HD DVD in general and Toshiba in particular?

Heck, we can all be bought. Give me a million dollars, and I might buy a PS3. Anything less than that, and I will wait for the Cyberhome Blu-ray special.

If the BDA gave you a million dollars, you might buy a PS3. Talk about fanboyism.

Anywho, I heard that Sony gave Warner a 50% stake of the company to go exclusive.
post #1345 of 1560

Sorry, but links from a different forum other than bluray.com do not convince me. Show me the bluray.com links.
post #1346 of 1560
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Originally Posted by sssick View Post

If the BDA gave you a million dollars, you might buy a PS3. Talk about fanboyism.

Anywho, I heard that Sony gave Warner a 50% stake of the company to go exclusive.

Actually, I wouldn't buy an Xbox either. I am equally disinterested in all game consoles. The last time I played a game, it was the early PC shareware arcade version of Duke Nukem, with that little hyperactive dude hopping from level to level. With the first-person shooter games (the later Duke Nukem, Doom, and the like), I lost interest altogether and have never looked back.

Maybe Sony gave Warner Columbia as an incentive to go Blu-ray?
post #1347 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

Well - we are approaching 10 pages (300 posts) on a hoax/rumor. And as has been stated before - the sheer entertainment value of this has been a highlight in a very boring week for HDM.

I just posted this in "that thread" over @ "that other" forum...


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This thread is off the scale.

The unintentional comedy scale that is.

It deserves an 11.

post #1348 of 1560
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Originally Posted by nfinity View Post

Well if you are waiting for me to cry or something if Warner goes BD exclusive, it certainly won't happen. It would be certainly proof that corporations have managed to completely kill consumer choice by simply tallying up on the side of the one that rips the consumers. It's their prerogative though. If they can find financial reasoning behind it, where Sony promises them long term subsidizing on the BD50gb discs and huge huge payoff then sure they can go that way.

But I don't think so. I still think they are more inclined to go HD DVD exclusive for so many reasons. They get money from licensing, get money from HD DVD camp + cheaper production where they can actually make more money per disc. Unless Sony gave them covered costs for everything in the next 3 years for example, I would be very surprised if they went Blu-Ray especially after latest reports of seriously declining PS3 sales, increase in X360 consumers (something like 3:1 one over PS3) and much bigger potential for these folks to go with $149 or $129 HD DVD add-on this season.

Paramount's decision was logical and explained. Warner going Blu-Ray exclusive would be completely illogical.

Warner going Blu would definitely make unrecoverable damage to HD DVD camp and would definitely sentence consumers to corporate mafia as it would be proof that today we really don't have any choice, we can be forced over a better and cheaper product through corporate setups.

HD DVD winning is more proof that there's still choice with consumers. A case where a finalized and full featured product with identical quality for 99% of consumers, 2-3 times cheaper then competition and backwards compatible would be replaced with expensive, niche driven, incomplete product where the plan is to get people to buy players now that they can't use to access features on discs tomorrow, so they end up rebuying equipment again just to access certain things.

But again, I don't think Warner will go Blu-Ray exclusive. With 1/3 of their title being HD DVD exclusive it wouldn't really make any sense.

I don't think that would happen either, but that would really suck eggs if that was the Warner announcement, timed to be released at Digital Life NYC and the leaker just assumed it was Blu-ray , but instead it was really going to be HD DVD.

Oops did I just start another rumor?

To be clear, I have heard nothing that there is going be any announcement besides what was on the Blu-ray com fan site.

tick tock tick tock.....

We'll know soon enough
post #1349 of 1560
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Originally Posted by mikemorel View Post

I just posted this in "that thread" over @ "that other" forum...

How come my speaker didn't come with a little heart like that on it?
post #1350 of 1560
I'll bet at 10 AM PST that guy is going to post a link to that Rick Rolled video, LOL.

If anything, his tag pokes fun of Sony's almost failed format SACD; i.e., SA0CD = super-audio-zero-CD.
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