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post #1411 of 1560
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

What? I guess you mean HD DVD fans whose world would end if BD beats HD DVD?

I think you'd be surprised, many so called HD DVD 'fanboys' have already expressed that they will happily go BD.... once player prices go down and profile numbers go up.

Yep.
post #1412 of 1560
...there is nothing about this situation that leads me to believe that it's happening, nor that it would be either a good or bad thing for HDM in general if it did. I'm surprised about having a specific time (10am PST), just as I'm surprised at knee-jerk denials about the very possibility. I think Amir's response last night, actually, is the most cogent - it's contrary to everything we've heard, but is simply not impossible. The same could be said if Disney suddenly went neutral, of course, or any other major shake up after the Paramount deal.

I gotta say, the balls on the OP at BR.com are huge as he keeps coming back with more and more info, easily refuteable if it doesn't come to pass. This is far more sophisticated than the usual "there will be a MAJOR shift at CES!" crap that we're used to. If it's a lie, it's a lie better told than most. If it has a hint of truth to it, it's an embarassing leak from Warner.

Wether it makes logical or business sense from outside the decision making process is irrelevant - what's at issue here is for once a person has dropped a rumour bombshell with a very rapid endtime for verification (several hours and counting) and specific details that can easily be refuted or acknowledged. Calling friends at the studio won't verify it, as many at Paramount weren't aware of the sea change. Nor, unfortunately, can weight be put on Lee's PM's, as they easily could be from someone else unrelated to the announcement (the fact that someone was -going- to hoax need not mean that this is a hoax).

It -could- have gone on for weeks, instead we'll know in a few hours and counting whether or not this so-called announcement is true or not. I'm pleased to see that many are both keeping an open mind about the possibility of the scenario, but wisely toning down enthusiasm or distress in the very real case that this is just calling wolf.

At the least, take this as yet another example of what actually gets all the traffic in this format "war" - people far, far more interested in the conflict between sides than they are in the content being generated in total.

Yet again, I recommend you go watch a flick, pulll out some popcorn (a la RobT's and others' animated gif), and enjoy this silly show, whichever way that the truth works out for you...

ps. Hi Mark!
post #1413 of 1560
I'm a member here and I agree if people from this site start mass hysteria on another site which then spreads to the rest of the internet, We have a obligation to discourage this kind of behavior from members here as well as members from other sites coming here and doing the same thing, I think a permanent ip ban is in order for whoever this is.
Derek
post #1414 of 1560
Well put, I believe if this is a hoax then it will just promote more and more going back and forth.
post #1415 of 1560
Blame Canada.
post #1416 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Urza View Post

LOL

There is another one, it has me in the top 10.

BTbuck got pissed cause I got him banned. He did it to himself, so I got nominated by him and Krinkle.

I'll fight ya.
post #1417 of 1560
While not a major poster, and not a poster to Bluray.com at all, I think this is actually quite funny, and it has made the last two hours less boring than normal.

I wish the fact that it is a hoax was not let out so that the thread could grow and grow.

Now, when am I getting my update to make my PS3 1.1 ready?
post #1418 of 1560
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Originally Posted by valleybacker View Post

Beatboy, are you seriously lecturing someone on spreading false rumors?

Beat me to it.

I agree that it was a stupid prank and I believe the perpetrator needs to get offline and get some emotional help.

But of all the people to be calling a foul on this...
post #1419 of 1560
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Originally Posted by ryoohki View Post

Well it's if a joke, than AVS have gone in a new low, and i'am sorry but people here are more and more patetic as time goes..

What's AVS have got to do with it? AVS didn't make the post on Blu-ray.com. I bet the OP shops at Wal-Mart and Target, too. I guess it's a new low for them as well, by your reckoning.
post #1420 of 1560
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Originally Posted by beatboy77 View Post

Lee,

If this truly is a prank, which I personally think it is, and you know the identity of the person behind it you have the obligation of "outting" this person as this type of prank hurts both Blu-ray and HD-DVD or HDM in general.

If I were you I would be pissed as this potential prank certainly has cost HD-DVD sales over the past 24 hours and has planted a seed in the minds of many fence sitters regarding WB's future plans. I am sure you will do the right thing.

~Josh

Careful with throwing rocks when you're the one in the glass house.

You made more than enough things up as this ventured along.

Besides, reading the Blu-Ray thread on this was rather amusing, how suddenly even the idea of a "bribe" by Sony was "okay" as it was "for the cause".

It also shows the absurdity of it all.
post #1421 of 1560
before you guys start blaming AVS for this please note:

-this is a rumor thread

-I have no knowledge of who started it or whether it is true: we have no way to trace it here

It's just a rumor that was not even started here

Relax folks: just have a bit of fun
post #1422 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Brian Hampton View Post

You're not planning a ban of Mr. Stewart? He planned and coordinated this per his own confession here. p.s. Anyone Agree??

No. Where did Lee post he planned and coordinated the hoax? I've seen no such admission.
post #1423 of 1560
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

before you guys start blaming AVS for this please note:

-this is a rumor thread

-I have no knowledge of who started it or whether it is true: we have no way to trace it here

It's just a rumor that was not even started here

Relax folks: just have a bit of fun


You should see the reaction over at blu-ray.com... they are trying to crucify all of AVS for the actions of one person. Some are being rational, many more are not. I especially like the constant whining over there about how one-sided AVS is when in fact it's the most evenly moderated forum in this whole format mess. Hats off to the mods for putting up with all this crap and still being professional.

They are really unbelievable over there... they still want to talk about boiling combo discs.
post #1424 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Brian Hampton View Post

He discussed the timing with the hoax-er or so he says,.. I would call that planning.

Either way,.. ban him or me for life. Please.

-Brian

Geesh what for? how about aiming that vitriol at the person who actually did it.
post #1425 of 1560
I knew stuff like this was going to happen as soon as they started allowing internet access in mental institutions.

Hopefully the little hoax will backfire on the few who are involved in it. Doesn't do either side any good in the long run.
post #1426 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Grubert View Post

Blame Canada.

"It's not even a real country anyway."
post #1427 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Brian Hampton View Post

He discussed the timing with the hoax-er or so he says,.. I would call that planning.

Read his posts again. He discussed the hoax with the "perp" after the fact. The OP acted alone, and told Lee after his post on Blu-ray.com. Put away your lynching tools, please.
post #1428 of 1560
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Originally Posted by edgebsl View Post

Doesnt that make him an accomplice?

I do believe you have the interwebs confused with a court of law.
post #1429 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Fergy View Post

Well, I for one, said I'd believe it when I saw it so I am not the gullible one you are speaking of. However, it does not surprise me one bit that it was an AVS HD-DVD fanboy who started it.

The only thing that's going to lay this to rest is 3 more hours. Whomever wrote may or may not be the wiener who wrote this.

I don't care who did it, or from what side of the yawning HD divide they hail, it's a bout as funny and useful as a virus.
post #1430 of 1560
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Originally Posted by edgebsl View Post


Sorry

I'm posting this on the blu-ray.com forum as well.

I'm going to tell my dad!
post #1431 of 1560
many posts deleted, suspensions issued
post #1432 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Urza View Post

LOL

There is another one, it has me in the top 10.

BTbuck got pissed cause I got him banned.
He did it to himself, so I got nominated by him and Krinkle.

I did?
post #1433 of 1560
My opinion is that WB is actually leaning blu and that Steve Nickerson's departure was due to WB rejecting Toshiba's offer to go HD-DVD exclusive. I have talked to some other people who also share that opinion. Now that Nickerson is gone, its all about software sales for Q4. Despite what rdjam and some others think, I feel confident that WB is leaning blu, but will let the holidays decide for sure.
post #1434 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

My opinion is that WB is actually leaning blu and that Steve Nickerson's departure was due to WB rejecting Toshiba's offer to go HD-DVD exclusive. I have talked to some other people who also share that opinion. Now that Nickerson is gone, its all about software sales for Q4. Despite what rdjam and some others think, I feel confident that WB is leaning blu, but will let the holidays decide for sure.

Are you sure it's not Universal going Blu for CES 200X? That's what I've been hearing for over a year.

My money is on Sony Pictures. Format neutral by CES 200X!
post #1435 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

My opinion is that WB is actually leaning blu

Why would WB be leaning blu when blu-exclusive studios are barely leaning blu? Saw an ad yesterday for one of the classic Disney animations, don't remember which one, being released in October. No mention of BR, just DVD. And then there's Fox. And I won't bring up hardware/profile issues.

My opinion is that WB is going to do the same thing Paramount did... take the path of least resistance to bring their HDM to the non-PS3 owning masses.
post #1436 of 1560
We'll just have to see.
post #1437 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

My opinion is that WB is actually leaning blu and that Steve Nickerson's departure was due to WB rejecting Toshiba's offer to go HD-DVD exclusive. I have talked to some other people who also share that opinion. Now that Nickerson is gone, its all about software sales for Q4. Despite what rdjam and some others think, I feel confident that WB is leaning blu, but will let the holidays decide for sure.

Count me in with "some others," I think they could easily be fed-up with amorphous BD specs, the costs and complications of producing BD, and think that HD DVD player prices will lead to speedier adoption of HD media. They also hold patents in HD DVD.

The only reason I see them going BD isn't because they rejected Toshiba's offer so much as got a Sony offer they couldn't refuse, or the Holidays producing a huge amount of BD standalone sales. How that's going to go down with $499.00 - 1.0 players is beyond me.
post #1438 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

My opinion is that WB is actually leaning blu and that Steve Nickerson's departure was due to WB rejecting Toshiba's offer to go HD-DVD exclusive. I have talked to some other people who also share that opinion. Now that Nickerson is gone, its all about software sales for Q4. Despite what rdjam and some others think, I feel confident that WB is leaning blu, but will let the holidays decide for sure.

This was reported last week about Nickerson at his new job though:

Source
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At the time of his departure from WHV, company executives said Nickerson’s leaving for a new opportunity would not signal a change in the company’s commitment to both Blu-ray and HD DVD high-definition formats. WHV is the only major studio still following a dual-format strategy.

In fact, Nickerson said he would like to use both formats at Summit if it’s cost-effective for a company of Summit’s size.
post #1439 of 1560
Thank you!
Suspensions will do just fine.

Just for the record I wasnt really really bent over this....it was...kinda funny.

I was only requesting avs should take action against the culprits since there was activity from those invloved on the board and using it's PM system to talk about the details of it. I would have been offended if they didnt do anything about it.
People trust avs as a source of information and condoning that behaviour would stike against their intergrity.

In Lee's defense....he claims he wasnt in on it from the beg. let in on it a few hrs later.
So he didnt start it. At least that's what he claims.

And people cant blame AVS for the actions of a few.
post #1440 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

My opinion is that WB is actually leaning blu and that Steve Nickerson's departure was due to WB rejecting Toshiba's offer to go HD-DVD exclusive. I have talked to some other people who also share that opinion. Now that Nickerson is gone, its all about software sales for Q4. Despite what rdjam and some others think, I feel confident that WB is leaning blu, but will let the holidays decide for sure.

You have it completely backwards. Warner was set to announce HD DVD exclusivity late August after Paramount/Dreamworks. They were to cite the same reasons and frustrations with profile 1.1 and 2.0. BDA begged for more time and Warner gave them Q4. I don't expect Q4 solves any existing blu issues that Warner/Paramount/Dreamworks have raised.

Jan. 2008 we will see the Warner decision. I admit my info. is 2nd hand from reps. of the studio. They may not even know the true intentions of the top brass but who knows. Your opinion is not worth as much as the studios own underlings in my opinion.

blu has Q4 to make a profile advancement and competitive pricing on players otherwise it is DEFCON 4.
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