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post #1441 of 1560
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Originally Posted by 2Channel View Post

Are you sure it's not Universal going Blu for CES 200X? That's what I've been hearing for over a year.

My money is on Sony Pictures. Format neutral by CES 200X!

2Channel, you are slipping! What do you mean Sony Pictures going format neutral? Didn't you mean to say they will be going HD-DVD exclusive!?!?
post #1442 of 1560
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Originally Posted by stevenmh View Post

Why would WB be leaning blu when blu-exclusive studios are barely leaning blu? Saw an ad yesterday for one of the classic Disney animations, don't remember which one, being released in October. No mention of BR, just DVD. And then there's Fox. And I won't bring up hardware/profile issues.

My opinion is that WB is going to do the same thing Paramount did... take the path of least resistance to bring their HDM to the non-PS3 owning masses.

I dont know what would lead you to believe that blu-exclusive studios are barely leaning blu, especially considering the comments made by Iger and Murdoch.

The ad you are referring to is the Jungle Book, which is not getting a bluray release at this time. There is no mention of a bluray release, because they are not releasing one! Is this really what leads you to believe Disney is unhappy with bluray?

Its my opinion that Nickerson left WB because he was upset that WB rejected Toshiba's HD-DVD exclusive offer. Thats my opinion that I have my reasons to believe. Could I be wrong? Definitely, Im speculating.
post #1443 of 1560
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Originally Posted by kevivoe View Post

You have it completely backwards. Warner was set to announce HD DVD exclusivity late August after Paramount/Dreamworks. They were to cite the same reasons and frustrations with profile 1.1 and 2.0. BDA begged for more time and Warner gave them Q4. I don't expect Q4 solves any existing blu issues that Warner/Paramount/Dreamworks have raised.

Jan. 2008 we will see the Warner decision. I admit my info. is 2nd hand from reps. of the studio. They may not even know the true intentions of the top brass but who knows. Your opinion is not worth as much as the studios own underlings in my opinion.

blu has Q4 to make a profile advancement and competitive pricing on players otherwise it is DEFCON 4.

We will see and if you are right I will happily admit it if you are. Either way, its all irrelevant. Right now at this moment WB is format neutral. What tommorrow will bring is anyones guess.
post #1444 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Winn View Post

I have to say that the response to the Warner rumor has surprised me in a very positive way. Blu-ray.com members have been reserved in their response. Most likely, this is because of the way they have been jerked around by some posters in the past. HD DVD fans have been accepting of this rumor, hoping it to be untrue, but not mocking people believing it nor crying payoff or foul. Most likely, this is a result of the shock of the Paramount deal and the subsequent loss of the "wait 'til the EU looks at BD payoffs to studios!" rallying cry.

Congrats to both sides for a rational and hopeful response.


My favorite post of last evening from 6:30-ish last night. I admire the class and benefit of the doubt it extended to all, no matter how inaccurate/premature it proved to be.
post #1445 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

The insiders I have talked to said something different, but we will see and if you are right I will happily admit it if you are. Either way, its all irrelevant. Right now at this moment WB is format neutral. What tommorrow will bring is anyones guess.

Oh, do tell!
post #1446 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

The insiders I have talked to said something different, but we will see and if you are right I will happily admit it if you are. Either way, its all irrelevant. Right now at this moment WB is format neutral. What tommorrow will bring is anyones guess.

I said my info is 2nd hand. If you have direct contact with a studio insider, that trumps my info.

No matter. WB skates neutral until Jan. 2008 decision and they may decide to stay neutral at that time again.
post #1447 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Robert Spalding View Post

Oh, do tell!

I corrected my above post. Im just basing my opinion on conversations I have had with other bluray supporters. Its just an opinion and I do NOT have any insider information to back up what I am saying. Just an opinion. Thats all :-)
post #1448 of 1560
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Originally Posted by kevivoe View Post

I said my info is 2nd hand. If you have direct contact with a studio insider, that trumps my info.

No matter. WB skates neutral until Jan. 2008 decision and they may decide to stay neutral at that time again.

This we agree on. I corrected my previous post. I do NOT have insider information. Sorry if my previous post made it sound like I did.
post #1449 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

I dont know what would lead you to believe that blu-exclusive studios are barely leaning blu, especially considering the comments made by Iger and Murdoch.

The ad you are referring to is the Jungle Book, which is not getting a bluray release at this time. There is no mention of a bluray release, because they are not releasing one! Is this really what leads you to believe Disney is unhappy with bluray?

Its my opinion that Nickerson left WB because he was upset that WB rejected Toshiba's HD-DVD exclusive offer. Thats my opinion that I have my reasons to believe. Could I be wrong? Definitely, Im speculating.

(1) Considering past history of BDA press releases and announcements, any Iger and Murdoch comments are meaningless to me. The war will ultimately be won or lost on retail shelves, not thru smokescreens and chest thumping.

(2) The lack of a BD release is precisely my point. Why isn't it being released day and date on BD? This seems like a perfect opportunity to show support for the format. I've been listening to the studio support argument and "content is king" mantra from the blu side since before the formats launched. Where are the movies? Why spend $500 on a BR player to watch BR studios release on DVD only?

(3) I'm speculating as well. Your speculation is as valid as mine, and mine is as likely to turn out wrong as yours. I've got nothing personal here, just putting my thoughts out there since we're talking rumors.
post #1450 of 1560
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Originally Posted by edgebsl View Post

Thank you!
Suspensions will do just fine.

Just for the record I wasnt really really bent over this....it was...kinda funny.

I was only requesting avs should take action against the culprits since there was activity from those invloved on the board and using it's PM system to talk about the details of it. I would have been offended if they didnt do anything about it.
People trust avs as a source of information and condoning that behaviour would stike against their intergrity.

In Lee's defense....he claims he wasnt in on it from the beg. let in on it a few hrs later.
So he didnt start it. At least that's what he claims.

And people cant blame AVS for the actions of a few.

Are you saying that Lee Stewart was suspended from AVS?
post #1451 of 1560
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Originally Posted by edgebsl View Post

Thank you!
Suspensions will do just fine.

Just for the record I wasnt really really bent over this....it was...kinda funny.

I was only requesting avs should take action against the culprits since there was activity from those invloved on the board and using it's PM system to talk about the details of it. I would have been offended if they didnt do anything about it.
People trust avs as a source of information and condoning that behaviour would stike against their intergrity.

In Lee's defense....he claims he wasnt in on it from the beg. let in on it a few hrs later.
So he didnt start it. At least that's what he claims.

And people cant blame AVS for the actions of a few.

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I was only requesting avs should take action against the culprits

And just who are these "culprits"? A rumor is posted at blu-ray.com and you come over HERE demanding that heads should roll? Lee CLEARLY stated that he got the information from someone and he posted letting everyone know that it was a hoax.

If you want to go demanding suspensions I suggest you try the other site.
post #1452 of 1560
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Originally Posted by stevenmh View Post

(1) Considering past history of BDA press releases and announcements, any Iger and Murdoch comments are meaningless to me. The war will ultimately be won or lost on retail shelves, not thru smokescreens and chest thumping.

(2) The lack of a BD release is precisely my point. Why isn't it being released day and date on BD? This seems like a perfect opportunity to show support for the format. I've been listening to the studio support argument and "content is king" mantra from the blu side since before the formats launched. Where are the movies? Why spend $500 on a BR player to watch BR studios release on DVD only?

(3) I'm speculating as well. Your speculation is as valid as mine, and mine is as likely to turn out wrong as yours. I've got nothing personal here, just putting my thoughts out there since we're talking rumors.

Good points, my friend.

You are absolutely right in that retail shelfs will determine this format war. I think we agree that is the way IT SHOULD BE. However, I have yet to see or read anything other than posts on this board that suggests that the bluray supporting studios are unhappy with the BDA. Public comments by Iger and Murdoch are evidence that they have no problem supporting bluray and I have not seen any evidence contrary to that.

As for your second point, I dont have an answer for you as to why Disney is not releasing the Jungle Book on bluray. For DVD and VHS, they were always pretty slow to bring out catalog titles (Afterall, how long did it take to bring the Lion King to dvd?) But I find the fact that day-and-date movies, such as PotC 3, Ratatouille and Cars are all coming to bluray is good enough for me to say that Disney is supporting bluray. Not to mention the tour they are doing around the country.

Your third point, I think speculation is GOOD, as long as it is clear that it IS speculation. I had an opinion and I shared it. I have no beef with you whatsoever and will always enjoy speculation with people who are reasonable.

I admit, I am not always reasonable, but for the most part I try to be. :-)
post #1453 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Ezra View Post

And just who are these "culprits"? A rumor is posted at blu-ray.com and you come over HERE demanding that heads should roll? Lee CLEARLY stated that he got the information from someone and he posted letting everyone know that it was a hoax.

If you want to go demanding suspensions I suggest you try the other site.

Ya, 12-14 hours after the fact he got the news about the hoax he lets on to everyone else. Not forthcoming at all. He gleefully laughed and laughed, and laughed over the whole thing along with others here.
post #1454 of 1560
I feel for the owners of this site. They don't need or deserve to be tainted by this kind of nonsense. The reckless actions of one person have unfairly reflected on AVS, and by extension, every member who posts regularly. That sucks.
post #1455 of 1560
Quote "Are you saying that Lee Stewart was suspended from AVS?"

He hasn't posted since before noon which is not his usual. I heard this isn't his first suspension either, which is understandable.

-Brian
post #1456 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Brian Hampton View Post

Quote "Are you saying that Lee Stewart was suspended from AVS?"

He hasn't posted since before noon which is not his usual. I heard this isn't his first suspension either, which is understandable.

-Brian

With Lee's history, if 10 minutes goes by without him posting something is wrong!
post #1457 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

2Channel, you are slipping! What do you mean Sony Pictures going format neutral? Didn't you mean to say they will be going HD-DVD exclusive!?!?

My under cover sources are telling me they're going neutral, not exclusive HD DVD. Apparently Sony Pictures switched from white toilet paper to blue in mid 2006. Just recently they have started ordering both red and blue toilet paper. I can see no other way to interpret this clear message but format neutrality.
post #1458 of 1560
MattGuyOR: My post in the other thread wasn't directed at all HD-DVD posters, I am one. It was directed at the few who keep on posting false crap in the Blu-Ray forum on here and now even on Blu-Ray.com....
post #1459 of 1560
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Originally Posted by 2Channel View Post

My under cover sources are telling me they're going neutral, not exclusive HD DVD. Apparently Sony Pictures switched from white toilet paper to blue in mid 2006. Just recently they have started ordering both red and blue toilet paper. I can see no other way to interpret this clear message but format neutrality.

I am going to respectfully ask the mods to delete your post since you failed to provide a link!
post #1460 of 1560
I love how everyone has "sources" and then states this info as fact. Instead of sitcoms, I just read these forums now.
post #1461 of 1560
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Originally Posted by sssick View Post

I love how everyone has "sources" and then states this info as fact. Instead of sitcoms, I just read these forums now.

Very good point, but I still miss the sitcoms! Get rid of reality TV and bring back sitcoms...... Next thing we will be talking about is how Reality TV looks in HD....
post #1462 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Garman View Post

Very good point, but I still miss the sitcoms! Get rid of reality TV and bring back sitcoms...... Next thing we will be talking about is how Reality TV looks in HD....

Please, God, no.
post #1463 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

My opinion is that WB is actually leaning blu and that Steve Nickerson's departure was due to WB rejecting Toshiba's offer to go HD-DVD exclusive. I have talked to some other people who also share that opinion. Now that Nickerson is gone, its all about software sales for Q4. Despite what rdjam and some others think, I feel confident that WB is leaning blu, but will let the holidays decide for sure.

Executives don't leave companies because they don't like a decision. It's likely given his position, he would be the one to make that final decision anyways. The reason he is given that position is because the board of directors trust his decision making skills will make them money. They don't go against that.

Steve left because he wanted a new/better/higher paying/more fulfilling job with another studio. That's it. That's all. Has absolutely nothing to do with a 0.6% market share business.

The new person will likely be the calling the shots now... so let's just hope she's in favor of _____________ format.
post #1464 of 1560
How can anybody expect Warners to go blu when even blu-ray studios don't release to their own format and two studios dropped blu-ray after only a year or so.. It's rediclious to say the least.
post #1465 of 1560
Oh, I suspect Lee will be back in a bit.
I would be surprised if he was actually banned considering the bullsh!t that other members propagate.

I'm sure at least one other fanboy got a suspension.
Seems he had an "identity crisis" or something like that.
post #1466 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

The ad you are referring to is the Jungle Book, which is not getting a bluray release at this time. There is no mention of a bluray release, because they are not releasing one! Is this really what leads you to believe Disney is unhappy with bluray?

My question to this statement would be:

Everyone has to have a copy of "The Jungle Book" by now, right?

So, wouldn't this be a perfect time to go with the "NEW" HD version?

Seems to me like it would be.
post #1467 of 1560
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Originally Posted by trgraphics View Post

How can anybody expect Warners to go blu when even blu-ray studios don't release to their own format and two studios dropped blu-ray after only a year or so.. It's rediclious to say the least.

Bluray represents the majority of HDM sales. Until HD-DVD is consistently able to outsell bluray there is nothing ridiculous about it. There are 5 studios who have all done very well for themselves over the years who think bluray is the way to go.
post #1468 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

Bluray represents the majority of HDM sales at the present time. Until HD-DVD is consistently able to outsell bluray there is nothing ridiculous about it. There are 5 studios who have all done very well for themselves over the years who thought bluray was the way to go.

Times, they are-a-changin'.


little different quote,(i changed the bold) but close.
post #1469 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

2Channel, you are slipping! What do you mean Sony Pictures going format neutral? Didn't you mean to say they will be going HD-DVD exclusive!?!?

Rob,

You are way off the mark. Sony is going HD VMD exclusive. I know this for sure since I saw both Sony and HD VMD mentioned on the same web page somewhere. I will find the link as soon as I put out the fire in my laptop. Do you suppose there is something wrong with the battery?
post #1470 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

Bluray represents the majority of HDM sales. Until HD-DVD is consistently able to outsell bluray there is nothing ridiculous about it. There are 5 studios who have all done very well for themselves over the years who think bluray is the way to go.

Well, it's a common misconception that businesses only look at sales. They also look at things like manufacturing cost, yields, margins, and trends. Blu-Ray's lead has been decreasing--not increasing. Furthermore, the Blu-Ray profile debacle is likely to lead to consumer confusion in the future--potentially angering some consumers if advanced interactive features are added to future titles. Unfortunately for Blu-Ray fans, things aren't actually looking very good for Blu-Ray at the moment--regardless of sales numbers.
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