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post #151 of 3509
Pulled the trigger. Nuff Said.
post #152 of 3509
I have had my 65833 for two weeks and the color wheel is still making its noise; you can hear it throughout my house. I also noticed a popping noise when using my 360 via HDMI, but I have a Onkyo 905 on order, so I am not too concerned about that. I am going to call Mit and see what this "easy fix" is for the high pitched noise. I do not feel that I am exaggerating or over reacting about the noise.
post #153 of 3509
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Originally Posted by jprazak View Post

I have had my 65833 for two weeks and the color wheel is still making its noise; you can hear it throughout my house. I also noticed a popping noise when using my 360 via HDMI, but I have a Onkyo 905 on order, so I am not too concerned about that. I am going to call Mit and see what this "easy fix" is for the high pitched noise. I do not feel that I am exaggerating or over reacting about the noise.

If the noise is that bad to you , and it has not went away in 2 weeks , i'd return it for another, and yes ,some have has a loud noise to them, looks like you got one of the bad one's,yes they say it can be fix in home, but if you can take it back for another,i sure would
post #154 of 3509
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Originally Posted by jprazak View Post

I have had my 65833 for two weeks and the color wheel is still making its noise; you can hear it throughout my house. I also noticed a popping noise when using my 360 via HDMI, but I have a Onkyo 905 on order, so I am not too concerned about that. I am going to call Mit and see what this "easy fix" is for the high pitched noise. I do not feel that I am exaggerating or over reacting about the noise.

Let me know what Mits says. I am in the same boat, I can't take the noise anymore. I really don't want to return it if Mits can come out and fix it.

Bryan
post #155 of 3509
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Originally Posted by jcsjeff View Post

Thanks for the reply Ron
I have 3 hdmi inputs and 1 out on the receiver. 4 hdmi inputs on the tv. I won't need an optical out on the Playstation for the best audio?
Thanks, Jeff

Please don't listen to that person that told you not to use the AVR. It's called an AVR for a reason - it provides your surround sound whereas the TV is NOT. Use the HDMI from devices to the AVR 805 and one out to the TV as your speakers and SS is connected to your AVR not the TV of course. You just bought an HDMI 1.3a AVR that's new to the market for goodness sake let it be in charge of your HT SS and use it's HDMI - it's the primary reason for waiting and buying that AVR it will send the signal through and natively display it on the TV.

HDMI carries both sound and video. If you have more than three devices then choose which one doesn't need surround sound. If you need confirmation visit the AVR threads but if you connect to the TV how in the world do you plan to have surround sound? You bought the 805 to be in control the TV is not an AVR and is incapable of doing anything but simulating SS. If you run into a situation where your cable box lacks HDMI then you do DVI to HDMI and run a digital coax or optical from the STB to the AVR to keep the sound digital to the AVR.
post #156 of 3509
Well, started to calibrate the TV with AVIA, but I haven't run DVE yet which I plan on doing so I'm not going to post my current settings. I took a few pictures of the tv with the stand and a few shots from tonights Cubs game/Discovery and my 360. First, the shots of the tv in action do not do it justice. They are slightly blurred as I was in a rush and was holding my camera with my elbows propping it up on the couch. A tripod would've produced significantly better results (shutter speed at about 1/13 of a second - so really slow and I'm sure the camera moved slightly while the shutter was open). The set also seems kinda dark in a few of the shots, but that is because the scenes were darker and the shots slightly underexposed (would've kept the shutter open longer but the pics would've been super blurry).

Few quick notes: I am 6' even to give you an idea of the size of the set (TV stand is Mits MB-65GB which fits perfectly). The tv is not bowed like it looks on the Cubs picture, just the lens and the angle of the camera (look at the picture with me in it - the ceiling is not that messed up, it is perfectly level - I just zoomed in a bunch to avoid having to crop the image). And the shot of the Lord of the Rings is a standard DVD, not upconverted. This looked good from a distance, but at about 8' back you can clearly see the lack of detail. Hopefully this helps a little bit.

TV stand closeup
TV on stand
Me next to tv
Cubs game
Discovery
360 dashboard
PGR3
LotR: Two Towers DVD - 480p
post #157 of 3509
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Originally Posted by KC Bond View Post

am in the process of evaluating this model versus the soon to be released XBR5. Thanks for all of your opinions and congratulations to the new owners of this set.

Not to derail this owners thread too bad, but I'm in the same situation. I was pretty much set on the 70" XBR5 (I want 70" or greater), but the weight of that set has really put a damper on things as it limits my stand options (even DIY). So, I've recently started researching the 73833. I've read several comments here that many 833 owners prefer it over the Sony 3000's, but I'm wondering how it will compare to the XBR5. I realize the XBR5 isn't even out yet, but does anyone else have any thoughts on these 2 TVs? Price differences don't matter, I just want the best I can get in this range as I'll probably own it for a long time (have owned my current 43" Sony for 7 years).
post #158 of 3509
Does the 833 accept 1080p over component?
post #159 of 3509
Nope, no component conversion, however it has a excellent scaler to convert a 720p or 1080i signal to 1080p.

I have been told you cant see the difference if you are a normal person. Take it for what its worth.

I got a 73833 (in process) and a big bertha (8-10 weeks probally)on the way
post #160 of 3509
Is there a place on the TV for allowing pass-through or Upconverion. I have cleaned up most of the graininess but i think it should be better.
I have the Comcast Scientific altantic 8300 HD-DVR
I have the new Denon 3800CI

Would would be the best settings coming from the Cable box and for the Receiver since I have the HDMI cables going through it?
post #161 of 3509
Congrats applebonker, that set looks great! I can't wait to get mine. That is the 65" right? Using both AVIA and DVE to calibrate? I've only ever used AVIA alone, does using DVE as well really help?
post #162 of 3509
Anyone noticed any geometry issues with these sets? Im getting one Wednesday from BB.. Swapping out from Sammys (been through 3 of them) that have given me nothing but problems.
post #163 of 3509
Im getting the 65in BTW.
post #164 of 3509
Questions;
What version do the 2007 models (731, 732, 831 etc.) of TV Guide OnScreen have?

A couple of eariler posts mentioned the slow response time of the menu. Press a button, wait for the response. I'm not just refering to channel changes either. Any comments here?
post #165 of 3509
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Originally Posted by westa6969 View Post

Please don't listen to that person that told you not to use the AVR. It's called an AVR for a reason - it provides your surround sound whereas the TV is NOT. Use the HDMI from devices to the AVR 805 and one out to the TV as your speakers and SS is connected to your AVR not the TV of course. You just bought an HDMI 1.3a AVR that's new to the market for goodness sake let it be in charge of your HT SS and use it's HDMI - it's the primary reason for waiting and buying that AVR it will send the signal through and natively display it on the TV.

HDMI carries both sound and video. If you have more than three devices then choose which one doesn't need surround sound. If you need confirmation visit the AVR threads but if you connect to the TV how in the world do you plan to have surround sound? You bought the 805 to be in control the TV is not an AVR and is incapable of doing anything but simulating SS. If you run into a situation where your cable box lacks HDMI then you do DVI to HDMI and run a digital coax or optical from the STB to the AVR to keep the sound digital to the AVR.

I am refering to the video, not the SS. The Onkyo does not do a very good job with the converting the video signals. That was my point so any video that can be a direct as possible from source to the tv is best. Sound is a whole different story. The Onkyo is not a bad AVR especially considering the price but AVRs are limited in what they can do especially in this price range. If you want better video conversion, upscaling, etc. You need to get a top of the line Denon, Pioneer Elite, Sony ES receiver. Audio companies are a little behind on the hdmi 1.3 compared to the video side of things. You also need to take the new dolby format into consideration real soon which makes future proffing a bit difficult. Not all hdmi 1.3 devices support it right now. I hope this clarifies things.
post #166 of 3509
I have examined two 65833 and two 73833 for geometry issues. Three had slight issues that were correctable by going into the service menu. The one 73" I saw at BB had really bad geometry that was easily as bad as some Samsungs. I don't know if the range of geometry corrections could have "fixed" that one, but I think the majority of 833's will be correctable to near perfect geometry. My current 65833 has no bowing and I am going to upgrade it to a 73833 next week.
post #167 of 3509
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Originally Posted by STRiDOR View Post

Congrats applebonker, that set looks great! I can't wait to get mine. That is the 65" right? Using both AVIA and DVE to calibrate? I've only ever used AVIA alone, does using DVE as well really help?

Yes, it's the 65". Like I said, the pictures do not show how great the tv looks (be prepared for much better than one you see in my pics). If anyone else has the 65833 and a harmony 880 remote, did you get the inputs to work correctly? Mine wouldn't work with the 65833 codes, but when I used the 73833 codes it worked fine (stange because they should be the same seeing as the use the same remote). I have never used DVE before either, but I figure I might as well see how good I can get this thing to look.

Also, the geometry on my set isn't perfect. Haven't gone in to the menu to correct it yet, but it's not too far off either. No where near as bad as some of the Sammy's I've seen.
post #168 of 3509
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Originally Posted by applebonker View Post

Yes, it's the 65". Like I said, the pictures do not show how great the tv looks (be prepared for much better than one you see in my pics). If anyone else has the 65833 and a harmony 880 remote, did you get the inputs to work correctly? Mine wouldn't work with the 65833 codes, but when I used the 73833 codes it worked fine (stange because they should be the same seeing as the use the same remote). I have never used DVE before either, but I figure I might as well see how good I can get this thing to look.

Also, the geometry on my set isn't perfect. Haven't gone in to the menu to correct it yet, but it's not too far off either. No where near as bad as some of the Sammy's I've seen.

Ihave the 65833 and harmony 880, i had to used the codes from 73833 also, My geometry was a little off also ,after going in to menu and playing around, it's about perfect now!
post #169 of 3509
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Originally Posted by tlbowerts View Post

Ihave the 65833 and harmony 880, i had to used the codes from 73833 also, My geometry was a little off also ,after going in to menu and playing around, it's about perfect now!

My 65833 will be showing up at BB either today or tomorrow, what is this whole geometry issue, and what should I look for. And also if there is an issue how do you fix it
post #170 of 3509
dont tell me the geometry is off. Whole reason why i steered clear of the LED sammy's. They are just too thin.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program - ....73833 is in route hopefully this afternoon
post #171 of 3509
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tlbowerts View Post

... My geometry was a little off also ,after going in to menu and playing around, it's about perfect now!

Where in the menu is the ability to change the geometry?
post #172 of 3509
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Originally Posted by jonnybalto View Post

I would go with a Bell'o cradenza. They have very good HT furniture mostly sold at high end stores, not at the big box stores. Here is a link for a stand you can use for the WD 65833. I got it for $299 at the store I deal with.
http://www.bello.com/index.php?parti...02&categ_id=39

I ended up going with the Bello suggested by johnnybalto for my 73833
(http://www.bello.com/index.php?parti...d_id=202&tab=1)
Thanks again for everyone's input!
post #173 of 3509
Yeah.. I did notice a little bowing on the 73833 I saw at BB... but its NOTHING compared to my Sammy.
post #174 of 3509
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Originally Posted by upinsmoke View Post

KOP huh? Your not all the far from me, I'm in West Chester, but went to DE to get the set. Not quite as good of a deal for me, but with the tax difference (and having a truck to pickup) it works for me.

If you dont mind me asking are you using Comcast or Verizon for a signal? We have Verizon and so far have been very pleased with their service (and price).

Hi Upinsmoke. Nice to meet a neighbor with a similar addiction. I'm actually north of you by about 20 minutes in Chester Springs. West Chester is a great town, especially for restaurants compared to where we are in the sticks. Coyote Crossing has great food & even better margaritas!

I was going to take my receipt to Delaware & cancel the TV here so I could save the tax also, but it would mean one trip down to do the deal & another trip down to get the TV, so with gas in my father-in-laws' pickup truck, it would have ended up being a $100 difference & not worth the aggravation. Besides, the salesman did me a solid & I would not have felt right about it. I'm in sales myself, and I know how much it sucks when a deal falls through after I waste time with a customer.

I have Comcast, but I was looking into alternatives. We are paying about $150/month for internet & cable alone and Verizon is pushing FIOS in a major way. Is that what you have? Do you know anyone with Direct TV that is pleased with the service? They seem to offer alot for less or the same money that I am paying now.

BTW, did you get the set calibrated by them? (BB?)
post #175 of 3509
Enter the Service Menu at your own risk.


- Press "menu"
- While on the menu screen press 2 4 5 7 wait 2 seconds then press 0
- You'll see 5 menu selections at the top of the screen
- Arrow down to "MANUAL KEYSTONE GEOMETRY ALIGNMENT" and press the "enter" button
- You will come to a black screen with overscan lines around the perimeter and two vertical lines at the 4:3 bar location
- Seeing this screen, you'll probably want to adjust the perimeter also which is the first part of these instructions. If not, read on through to the end which will get you to the 4:3 bar adjustment.
- There are adjustment points along the perimeter ("+" marks)
- The first point you're at when you arrive to the screen is the upper left corner
- Adjust that point (if needed) by pressing the up/down/left/right arrow keys in the direction you need that point to move to straighten any irregularities there. You won't see any of the lines move at this point, just the "+" pointer.
- You access the "+" points in a clockwise direction from the starting point by pressing "fast forward" (to the right of "play") on the remote to move to the next adjustment point. Adjust the pointer at the next point if needed in the same manner (up,down,left right) then on to the next point.
- "Fast Rewind" will move you backwards, point to point, headed back to the starting point.
- Since you don't see the results of your adjustments onscreen, you'll have to press "enter" which will return you to the Geometry menu screen, then "enter" again to get you back to the adjustment screen. Then you'll see the results. You'll be going back and forth like this quite a few times. NOTE: If you make an adjustment on a point and press "enter", that adjustment won't take. Make sure before you "enter" out to the menu, that you fast forward or rewind to the next point first.

- To adjust the two 4:3 vertical bars, "fast forward" all the way around to the starting point. Once there, you'll be in the 4:3 bar adjustment mode. The next "fast forward" press will make both 4:3 lines move. Just keep pressing "fast forward / rewind" until you get the bars straight as possible. Press "enter" to get back to the menu screen. If you are finished, press "exit".
post #176 of 3509
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Originally Posted by nc88keyz View Post

dont tell me the geometry is off. Whole reason why i steered clear of the LED sammy's. They are just too thin.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program - ....73833 is in route hopefully this afternoon

Hey nc88keyz, good luck on your new 73833, let us know how you like it !
About geometry, it was off less than 1/8, like close to1/16 (wife could not even see it)i just wanted perfect!!!
post #177 of 3509
ill be looking closely. Im sure it wont bother me that much. Looking forward to it. Nicest tv to date. Ive always wanted a diamond im my living room.

Probally wont be here until Tuesday, Wednesday. Furniture coming Sunday...Directv upgrades scheduled TBD. Im still on HD Tivos. I got a lot of wires to sort through soon enough. Also a hint of tropical storm brewing off coast of NC so work might be getting interesting soon as well.
post #178 of 3509
NC88 what stand did you decide to go with?
post #179 of 3509
http://www.everythingfurniture.com/a...-entcen-2.html

No it wasnt that price. Yes it was under half of that price. Yes it was under 2K. Yes I had to pay tax unfortunately

Yes, I measured very very well and it will fit the 73833. If not I have my saw charged up! haha

No seriously, I got the specs pdf and measured the internal area for the tv. and the height was a concern to due to the mid shelf. It sits 24" but in the pictures you can see that the speakers on the sample DLP elevate the set much more. Our mits dont do that to that extent. One of the reasons I went with the Mits...Very little base on them.

Do you know how hard it is to find this color furniture. Not the easiest. Its been a mess though. The warehouse shipped the walnut first...and its sitting in my hall area. ...awaiting the swaparoo on sunday. For the trouble i negotiated a 73734 at cost, but passed for the diamond instead. (If only they could have been a diamond dealer). Unfortunately not though.

I think that mid console is available seperately too around 450 or so if you shop. Its available in three colors i think.

The furniture is part of the Encore Home Theater Line - APA Marketing. They are speced in the USA and mfg in China to specs. Small outfit but they make some nice stuff with decent margins
post #180 of 3509
Congrats on the TV and stand I think I'm gonna hold out a bit longer. Hoping for the Laser early next year. I could wish right =)
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