Official Mitsubishi WD XX833 Owners Thread - Page 63

Yes, your EXAMPLE used replacement problems. BUT, your ORIGINAL statement talked about problems discussed in the A3000 thread (no mention of replacement). So, I figured your EXAMPLE was an EXAMPLE, just as mine was.

Fair enough, I should have been clearer. When I notice problem posts in threads, I usually only make not of serious problems.

Oh, and I'm finding Cnet reviews to be suspect at best. They pretty much poo-pooed the Panasonic DMP-BD30 Blu-Ray player (which I also own). If you check the Owner's thread, it is almost universally praised as the best player out there right now. Perfect? No. But head-and-shoulders above the competition right now.

So, for the Cnet review of the Mitsu TVs to basically condemn the TV is very suspect, and doesn't jive with the WD-73833 I have sitting in my living room right now. My EYES tell me that the picture is incredible, not mediocre at best.

Don't know why jsm takes everyone's opinion so personally

St...

You read a great deal into posts.

Jim

"...sound to me that they are similar..."

That is what my experience was in side by side. Both very similiar. Both quite excellent.

"...doesn't jive with the WD-73833 I have sitting in my living room right now. My EYES tell me that the picture is incredible, not mediocre at best."

My point as well. I guess we're deceiving ourselves. We are looking at a picture that in reality does not display primary colors correctly but our minds are tricking us into thinking the picture is incredible. I just hate it when that happens.

Jim

Hmm, a bit defensive eh?

Don't think there's any need for the name calling though.

I never said I trusted Cnet or that their review was necessarily correct. All I said was that it didn't sound unreasonable that the primary colors could be off. That's something that's very hard to detect without the right equipment. The "eye" might not necessarily detect it (depending upon how far off it is).

And yes, most TV's that have problems are set specific, but thanks for the heads up, Captain Obvious.

I also said I thought the Mits was a great TV and I'd probably be buying one (if you actually read any of my posts). I don't let others opinions necessarily sway me, nor do I personally attack them when they do.

I guess that's where were different. But then again, I also graduated high school, so perhaps we're very different.

You CAN'T get Dolby Digital from an L/R audio cable. Most DD will be carried out thru the S/PDIF, TosLink or HDMI interface. Plus you must have the program encoded with DD along with proper receiver to decode DD to get the multi-channel, ie 5.1, sound. If you don't have the receiver, then you will get most is donw-converted 2-channel stereo.

soy....

I understand all of that. The cable from the TV is coax digital cable not r/l audio. It passes DD for OTA broadcast just fine. Just doesn't get the DD signal on it when incoming is the HDMI port.

If I understand your set-up correctly - you're trying to get DD output from your cable box using HDMI AND toslink etc. From the Comcast box/thread I'm on it was brought up that with their boxes you can not get DD from HDMI AND any other outputs -you can use HDMI our OR something else but not both. Frustrating for those that want to split the sound but i think it does have to do with the HDCP stuff. I'm glad to have my HDTivo's

you can use HDMI our OR something else but not both.....

Same with the Cox box. What I was hoping was that if I got the DD to the TV via HDMI that the TV would then pass through the DD out its COAX to my stereo. Doesn't seem to do so. The Coax can pass DD, it passes it from its own internal TV tuner when OTA has DD on it. What would be nice is if it could pick up the DD off the HDMI input as well.

Why the cable box won't do "both and" instead of "either or" is indeed quite frustrating. Even the COX cable support person I talked to complained about it needing to be "and". That is why they had me email Scientific Atlanta.

You gotta know I am not the ONLY one who has called COX about it.

It does make me laugh though. When HDMI was first being implemented everyone complained that it didn't have the DD audio signal on it. It was JUST video. Now that it does have DD, folks like me are complaining that the DD signal is not on our other ports. My Sony DVD player puts the DD on the HDMI as well as the optical or coax out. So it can be done.

Jim

I'm looking for a service manual for these 833 TVs. Do you guys know where I can get one online? I got one for my 734 but I can't remember where I bought it and I can't get anything on Google except for older models.

I have one in pdf. PM me.

Hello,

I have a couple of questions regarding aspect ratio control for my set-up:
TV - Mitsubishi WD 65833
DVD - Oppo Dv-980H
CATV Box - SA 8300HD

(1) Has anyone tested (or does anyone have strong opinions) the best way to use the stretch/zoom modes. Should this be handled by the Mit or natively by the SA box and Oppo player?

(2) Can you set-up the Mit to apply specific stretch/zoom modes depending on the incoming signal (ie. Stretch Plus for standard def program material and Standard for High Def program material)

Thanks for the help.

1 - I have the 73833. I'm not a fan of it's stretch-mode. If your SA box has a 'full' mode (like my old moto box did) it does a much better/natural stretch of the pic.

2 - When selecting the stretch mode when changing channels from SD to HD it reverts to its 'normal' mode.

gab.....

I prefer the MIT tv stretch to my cable box. I have Scientific Atlanta box. Both look about the same though.

Are you talking about something like Sony's auto stretch? Where the TV senses the signal and automatically zooms the screen? If so, I can't find anything on the MIT that does this. One of the features about the Sony that was in its plus column what I was trying to decide on my purchase. It would be nice if the MIT had an auto setting for this.

Jim

I guess I don't understand why you would need a stretch mode for the DVD player. Maybe older DVD's that are 4:3? Based on what I know about the OPPO's, if I had the need to stretch a signal from it, I'd use it to do so. They are tremendous units. Wouldn't mind having a 981 myself.

Thanks Jim. I didn't realize the Sony had an "auto" sense feature. That is what I meant and I can't figure out how to do it with the Mit either (probably can't be done). Regarding the Oppo, my question was for older 4:3 DVDs. Thanks again for your thoughts.

I bet MIT can do auto sensing and zoom the picture. I will guess its a firmware/software thing. When sense "x" do "y". Cause it does "know" what signal is coming it, it displays that in the info field.

How do we get to MIT firmware dudes?

Am I the only one with 'pink' shadows on this TV? Especially on white clothing and sometimes on faces or white hair.

Tried turing magenta to 0 in perfect color, which helps but produces other undesirable artifacts.

I have noticed this on low or high color temp, and natural, brilliant, and bright. No setting I change seems to have an effect on this issue.

1) Never use stretch mode....ever
2) Modes are memorized based on input type.

There is no need to stretch anything. If something is coming in 480i/p, then you should be set to narrow mode.
If it comes in 1080i/p then you should be set to standard.
Thats all the formatting you should ever need.

I want to thank you all for the great insite to the WD XX833. I purchased the brand new WD 57833 yesterday at Fry's for a killer price!!!

My set-up now consists of

MITS WD57833
ONKYO SR605
MOTOROLA DCH3200 (CABLE BOX)
HK DVD22

I'm holding out for a Blu-Ray player. They had a samsung for 399 with 5 free movies at RC-WILLEY, but I need to take this one step at a time, so my wife doesn't makes me take everything back!!

I used that monster cable calibration wizard DVD and it really help with getting the black level set right.

Thanks again. I'll post some pictures soon!!

I disagree - I dont' want bars on the top, bottom, & sides of an 480 signal and my comcast box did a stellar job of 'stretching' the picture without distorting it (like my Toshiba 62HM196 does but it's called "full") but i find the Mitzy 73833 I have does a poor job of stretching.

enjoy your pan and scan DVDs

Currently I have my DCH3200 hooked up via HDMI to my ONKYO then back out to my TV

I had my DVD player hooked up via component to the receiver than back out via HDMI to the TV. The picture was shaking so I went direct on my DVD player, with the Audio running through my receiver. It looks 100% percent better.

Am I better off running my cable box directly to my TV and then run the audio through my receiver??


In regards to watching the DVD in 480i narrow, I too can not stand see that many black bars. I'm running at 480i standard. What's the difference between 480i standard and 480i standard plus??

I was able to get the bulb hours with this combo

up up, down down, left right, left right, hold down A, hold down B, select, start

JK-haha

Yes and chanting out

GO SPIDEY GO!!!

You would rather watch people with their heads cut off or short and fat?
Like I read on another post in the HDDVD forums: "Stop watching the black bars and start watching the movies".
lol

Stretched formats grew from CRT burn in. There is absolutely no need to watch a stretched picture on a LCD/DLP/LCOS.

It's OAR or nothing for me. Can't stand even the slightest distortion.

I'm not pro when it comes to taking photos, but here are a couple of the new HDTV.