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post #1951 of 3491
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Originally Posted by simplegk View Post

I'm new to this thread and am looking at buying a 73833. I'm really interested in the split screen feature.

Has anyone mentioned whether it's possible to split the screen w/ two HDMI sources??

I believe that the manual says this is not possible. I'm guessing though that I can still get the 2nd source in HD, just not w/ the HDMI inputs.

Thanks.

It cannot display 2 digital sources.
That is becuase there is not a 2nd digital demodulator.

So as long as your 2nd input is an analog source (components or analog ANT) then you can use the split.
post #1952 of 3491
Even though Mitzy may go this route at some point i'm GLAD not to be a Sony fanboy in line for the 70" !! From engadgethd.com
"It's unconfirmed at the moment, but we're hearing that Sony is planning to discontinue sales of all rear-projection HDTVs, including its 3LCD and SXRD lines, after current inventories are exhausted to focus on the hot-selling Bravia LCD line. We've been tipped on it twice today and now This Week In Consumer Electronics is reporting that a Sony spokesperson has told them that "We are moving our resources more toward LCD TV, because that's what people really want." It looks like all backorders for the KDSZ70XBR5 are being canceled, as the unit will never be manufactured, and Sony's making a "no promises" effort to fill backorders for the KDF46E3000 and KDS60A3000. The move isn't exactly unprecedented or even all that surprising -- Toshiba, Philips and Hitachi have all stopped producing rear-projection sets, but Sony's SXRDs were still extremely popular and it's strange to see them get dropped just like that. Check the full leaked email we got after the break."
post #1953 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Rats - no luck on-line trying to find it. I found the 2 and 6 pack at Amazon (same part numbers). 2 pack @$30

Ahh, I see the 6-pack on Amazon for 69. That appears to be the same contents albeit totally different packaging.

With only a twenty dollar difference and needing to get it shipped still (buying it from Amazon instead); I will throw the offer out there that if you would like to purchase this from my Costco (if its possible) I would help you out getting it shipped to you as they have lots of them at 2 of our 3 Costcos.

trippn
post #1954 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Hipnotiq View Post

There is no need to stretch anything. If something is coming in 480i/p, then you should be set to narrow mode.
If it comes in 1080i/p then you should be set to standard.
Thats all the formatting you should ever need.

I'm a huge advocate of OAR - however I use the ZOOM feature (which stretches the image horizontally AND vertically) on my TiVo Series 3 if I'm watching, for example, "Nip/Tuck" or "Battlestar Galactica". Those programs are presented in 16:9 but the networks are only available in an SD broadcast. So if I only watch it in 4:3 narrow as you suggest then I have a 16:9 image surrounded on all sides with black. When I stretch it I'm not altering the aspect ratio at all - I'm just filling the screen.
post #1955 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

I don't think it's the 1080p as much as connecting two HDMI's to the TV. The only signals that are 1080p are Blu-Ray movies or HD-DVD movies (and only newer HDDVDs are coming out in 1080p). HD TV is only 1080i at best.

HD-DVDs have been encoded at 1080p since the format's launch in April 2006.
Are you referring to player output? In that case its more accurate to say only the higher end players support 1080p output since that's been around since the second generation machines - just not on the entry level models.
post #1956 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Yakko_68 View Post

HD-DVDs have been encoded at 1080p since the format's launch in April 2006.
Are you referring to player output? In that case its more accurate to say only the higher end players support 1080p output since that's been around since the second generation machines - just not on the entry level models.

I think he mean HD being broadcasted..
post #1957 of 3491
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Originally Posted by trippndaddy View Post

Ahh, I see the 6-pack on Amazon for 69. That appears to be the same contents albeit totally different packaging.

With only a twenty dollar difference and needing to get it shipped still (buying it from Amazon instead); I will throw the offer out there that if you would like to purchase this from my Costco (if its possible) I would help you out getting it shipped to you as they have lots of them at 2 of our 3 Costcos.

trippn

There are Costco's here so I'll see if I can get one here. The one you have (with the 3 colors) is more expensive than the one color available at Amazon so the one you have is 'better' if you want to change the colors/mood settings!
BUT i don't have a Costco membership (just Sam's) so I MAY take you up on that offer. I'll PM you.
post #1958 of 3491
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Originally Posted by richlo View Post

I think he mean HD being broadcasted..

Not according to this.

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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

(and only newer HDDVDs are coming out in 1080p).
post #1959 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

Not according to this.

Hmm - my bad (I guess) I thought HD-DVD's that first came out were out in 1080i and only recently are 1080p since the earlier players were only outputting 1080i.
post #1960 of 3491
Common misconception Wryker since, as you say, most of the early players only ouput 1080i. The discs themselves though, have always been 1080p
post #1961 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

Common misconception Wryker since, as you say, most of the early players only ouput 1080i. The discs themselves though, have always been 1080p

That's what I get for having my PS3 for a long time now and recently getting the A2 (only 1080i).
post #1962 of 3491
Have any of you with the fan noise had any luck with getting mits to acknowledge this problem? I'm not talking about the high pitched whine that the electrical tape will fix. This is the fan. It's seems like an easy fix - use the same fan that is in the ones not making noise - I emailed mits and never got a response. I have to turn the volume up to 14 before I don't hear it...
post #1963 of 3491
Hey guys, I am thinking of ordering a WD-65833 for my XMAS present vs the Sony KDS-60A3000. I have heard complaints from both, with the fan whinning being the biggest for the Mitsu. I have a bright room during the day and like the idea of the anti glare screen, does this actually work? And, anything good or bad that I should know before I pull the trigger ordering one?

Comparision between the SXRD and DLP Mitsu?

Is the fan whinning really that bad?

I currently have a 6 year old first release HD ready Mitsu 4:3 RPT.

Thanks in advance
post #1964 of 3491
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rod456 View Post

Hey guys, I am thinking of ordering a WD-65833 for my XMAS present vs the Sony KDS-60A3000. I have heard complaints from both, with the fan whinning being the biggest for the Mitsu. I have a bright room during the day and like the idea of the anti glare screen, does this actually work? And, anything good or bad that I should know before I pull the trigger ordering one?

Comparision between the SXRD and DLP Mitsu?

Is the fan whinning really that bad?

I currently have a 6 year old first release HD ready Mitsu 4:3 RPT.

Thanks in advance

I don't hear a loud whinning noise on mine and I use the pause button all the time on the satellite receiver. I guess more people are more aware of the noise or theirs is just louder. I also had a 62525 prior to this one which had fan noise so I might be used to it. Sorry can't compare with SXRD since I've never seen one. I always stick with Mits (first one bought in 1980 is still working).
post #1965 of 3491
Thanks for your reply.

I do have one more question. I will be sitting approx. 14' from the front of the screen, do you think 65" is big enough our would 73" better (obviously it would) and worth the extra $1,000?

Rod
post #1966 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Rod456 View Post

Thanks for your reply.

I do have one more question. I will be sitting approx. 14' from the front of the screen, do you think 65" is big enough our would 73" better (obviously it would) and worth the extra $1,000?

Rod

At that distance the 73 is the one you should get. At @9-10ft 1080p is noticeable.
post #1967 of 3491
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Originally Posted by Rod456 View Post

Thanks for your reply.

I do have one more question. I will be sitting approx. 14' from the front of the screen, do you think 65" is big enough our would 73" better (obviously it would) and worth the extra $1,000?

Rod

I sit aprox 13' from the 65833 and it's fine. BUT, if "The Finance Committee" will approve the extra $$$ for 73", why not!? 73" would be grand!
post #1968 of 3491
Does anyone know if there is a way to tell if the television is getting a 24 fps signal from a HDM player? I have my Blu Ray and HD DVD players going through my receiver (Onkyo 705) to the TV. I was just reading in the HD DVD forum about some 24 fps signals needing to be "forced" in order to get to the display and wanted to verify that my 65833 was getting it. I do notice a visual difference, but would like some verification. Thanks.
post #1969 of 3491
On my PS3 i switched it from 'auto' to 'on' and immediately the movie i was playing 'flickered' and voila - it was in 24fps but it only occurred when i switched it to 'on'. my HDDVD A-2 player is set at max resolution which is 1080i (i don't think my model supports 24fps) and i, too, have them running through my reciever (denon 2808).
post #1970 of 3491
Did your tv verify that you were getting the 24 fps signal though? When I press the info button on my tv all i see is the normal 1080p:standard message. Nothing about 24 fps. I do have it set at 120 Hz too.
post #1971 of 3491
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Originally Posted by dhuynh11 View Post

Did your tv verify that you were getting the 24 fps signal though? When I press the info button on my tv all i see is the normal 1080p:standard message. Nothing about 24 fps. I do have it set at 120 Hz too.

Good point - I just 'know' that by having the PS3 set to 'on' that it's 'on' and i have my HDDVD set to the highest resolution it'll allow. Next time i check i could always hit the 'info' on the HDDVD to see what it's broadcasting and do the same on my PS3. That will show what it's outputting.
post #1972 of 3491
Let me know what you find. I know my blu ray player (Sammy BD-P1400) has the 24p turned on and the picture looks more clear, but I can't seem to verify on the tv about a 24p signal. Anyone else know?
post #1973 of 3491
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Originally Posted by dhuynh11 View Post

Let me know what you find. I know my blu ray player (Sammy BD-P1400) has the 24p turned on and the picture looks more clear, but I can't seem to verify on the tv about a 24p signal. Anyone else know?

One way is to take a DVD with material that is shot on video (like a "Best of SNL" disc) and force it to play at 1080p/24. It should have that bizarre, missing framed, "vapor trail" look to it. Unfortunately my Tosh HD-A35 - even though its supposed to detect source material and adjust playback accordingly - plays everything at 24fps when the feature is on - on some DVDs (usually TV show collections) this even negatively affects menu interaction.
post #1974 of 3491
Hhmmm... after living with a Mitsi 65833 for ~ a month, I finally got around to commenting on C-nets review.

First, we upgraded our DT service to HD with a new satillite and a HR20 receiver/recorder... when we received the 65833 in November. Then, after we got everything hooked-up, the picture was over-powering, too bright... but boy did it... "POP" !!!

I went thru the owners menu for both the tv & receiver and was able to get a reasonable picture. Next, I started reviewing various forums for additional information. This AVS forum was my best source of information, and it seems I was lucky to miss Mit's Beta models,I have nothing to whine about and NO fan noises so far.

After working my way thru the THX calibration info, I went to the DVE disk. Next, I again reviewed the calibration settings listed on this forum (thanks guys), and made additional adjustments.

I currently prefer adjusting the set (fine tuning screen settings) when changing from Sports to DVD movies. Still debating... but right now I prefer a brighter image for sports.

Yesterday, I stopped by our local Best Buy and went into their Magnolia display room. Once again, I found that I prefered the Mit's 65833 picture vs. a 58 inch panny plasma that was right along side. Now that I'm a bit more knowledgable, I saw differences between the two screens that I hadn't noticed before. Still, the 65833 IMO... had the better presentation, sharper detail and yes, the picture POPS on sports channels compared to the plasma.

Still I wonder if either the Panasonic 58" plasma tvor the Mitsu 65833 were calibrated to 6500K standard. I'm beginning to doubt if one can truly compare HDTV's in a store.

Now back to the C-net review...

Is it possible that C-net reviewed a "LEMON" ?

They seemed to dislike the 65833 entirely but...

I have found nothing that would lead me to the same conclusions C-net came to... after their review.
post #1975 of 3491
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Originally Posted by trumperZ06 View Post


Now back to the C-net review...

Is it possible that C-net reviewed a "LEMON" ?

They seemed to dislike the 65833 entirely but...

I have found nothing that would lead me to the same conclusions C-net came to... after their review.

Having my 65833 for about two months now, I would agree with you. I certainly can find fault with the TV, but in no way is my set as "bad" as the one CNET reviewed. I'm always impressed with the picture it delivers and I have three other sets (flat panels) to compare it to. None can deliver the size/quality of the big Mits. My complaints are with the slow reaction to inputs. It was quite a challenge to get my Harmony to work well with this set. (lots of delay settings) Still it's a great set and I'm happy with it.
Enjoy yours!
post #1976 of 3491
Yep... the Mit's a little slooow on changing imputs.

Other than that... I'm a Happy Camper

who's gonna Enjoy the Bowl Games.

I've programed the DT remote for:

DT HR20 receiver/recorder
65833 TV
Denon AV receiver
Sony DVD player

So far... all's well.

Merry Christmas to ALL !!!
post #1977 of 3491
I had a 65833, now have a 73833. I had a group of friends over a few days ago watching the 65" and they were here again yesterday watching the new 73". Interestingly, none of them noticed that it was a different TV with a larger screen.
post #1978 of 3491
Opus,

CONGRATS... Bigger is Better in most situations.

Do you see any difference in picture quality or alignment with Mit's 833 series...

between the 65 vs 73 inch models ?

I'm wondering if the larger screen size amplifies any issues.

IMO... professional reviewers, such as C-net should be comparing models of the same size.
post #1979 of 3491
There was a conversation a few days ago regarding the impact of the 120 hz setting. Well, I stopped by a BB today and they has a Samsung LCD set for 120hz connected to a Blue Ray outputting 1080p24, playing the Brothers Grimm. It was stunning - everyone there had their jaws on the floor. Those folks that say they have their TV and player set up for 120hz/p24 and don't see much of a difference either have it set up incorrectly or their TV doesn't do 120hz correctly, because when it's all clicking, it will floor you. It wasn't so much that that there was no jitter in the pans (though the panning and action shots were butter smooth), it was that no matter how the camera moved, the scene was razor sharp. It was amazing. Now there will be some folks that won't like it - it's a little unnerving - the movie looks a lot like video, but the action shots and camera pans are so sharp and crystal clear that you'd swear you were looking out a window instead of watching a TV. If it can make LCD look this good, imagine what it does on a plasma, DLP, SXRD, or D-ILA...
post #1980 of 3491
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Originally Posted by MikeyW View Post

There was a conversation a few days ago regarding the impact of the 120 hz setting. Well, I stopped by a BB today and they has a Samsung LCD set for 120hz connected to a Blue Ray outputting 1080p24, playing the Brothers Grimm. It was stunning - everyone there had their jaws on the floor. Those folks that say they have their TV and player set up for 120hz/p24 and don't see much of a difference either have it set up incorrectly or their TV doesn't do 120hz correctly, because when it's all clicking, it will floor you. It wasn't so much that that there was no jitter in the pans (though the panning and action shots were butter smooth), it was that no matter how the camera moved, the scene was razor sharp. It was amazing. Now there will be some folks that won't like it - it's a little unnerving - the movie looks a lot like video, but the action shots and camera pans are so sharp and crystal clear that you'd swear you were looking out a window instead of watching a TV. If it can make LCD look this good, imagine what it does on a plasma, DLP, SXRD, or D-ILA...

That would be the frame interpolation at work making the picture look gimmicky and artificial. It's not something I would use much other than for certain kinds of programming. Definitely not for movies except maybe for the computer animation kind. Wasn't there some DVD software that could do the same thing on your computer?
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