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post #211 of 3491
9/8/07 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by soyuppy View Post

Waiting long enough. Pulled the trigger on witching. So if I were to just stick with component, 480p for DVD, 720p or 1080i for the ViP722, will the signal be upconvert to 1080p via the component once inside the WD-65833? How does it fair? Anyone tried it?

Yes, I can consider using HDMI to each of the invidual connector, but that will be in due course, but right now, it'll just be component.

For the Mitsu 833 diamond, the tv will only give you 1080i. Upconversion to 1080P is for HDMI only. Check the specification.
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post #212 of 3491
9/8/07 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by George Omoregie View Post

For the Mitsu 833 diamond, the tv will only give you 1080i. Upconversion to 1080P is for HDMI only. Check the specification.
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maybe it doesn't accept 1080p through component, but it will upconvert to 1080p, because it converts everything to 1080p.
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post #213 of 3491
9/8/07 at 12:53pm
Three HR20s in route for install on the 22nd. All I can say is there are some very cool and understanding retention reps at directv these days.

Things are starting to look up. Furniture to be delivered tomorrow, but im crossing fingers due to tropical storm sitting off the coast.
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post #214 of 3491
9/8/07 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

maybe it doesn't accept 1080p through component, but it will upconvert to 1080p, because it converts everything to 1080p.

I do not have mine yet for this new model. Hopefully in two weeks, I will see if it will convert everything via component to 1080P.
I will be using HDMI (Directv) maybe the new HR21 Pro. I currently have the HR20-100 (Silver)

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post #215 of 3491
9/8/07 at 1:34pm
I notice some fan noise if i'm right by the set, but sitting back in the viewing area its not noticible. As far as the set recognizing components in various hookup scenarios I'll play around with mine some tonight - did not really notice an issue with mine (using an Emotiva MMC-1)
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post #216 of 3491
9/8/07 at 1:41pm
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Hi Upinsmoke. Nice to meet a neighbor with a similar addiction. I'm actually north of you by about 20 minutes in Chester Springs. West Chester is a great town, especially for restaurants compared to where we are in the sticks. Coyote Crossing has great food & even better margaritas!

I was going to take my receipt to Delaware & cancel the TV here so I could save the tax also, but it would mean one trip down to do the deal & another trip down to get the TV, so with gas in my father-in-laws' pickup truck, it would have ended up being a $100 difference & not worth the aggravation. Besides, the salesman did me a solid & I would not have felt right about it. I'm in sales myself, and I know how much it sucks when a deal falls through after I waste time with a customer.

I have Comcast, but I was looking into alternatives. We are paying about $150/month for internet & cable alone and Verizon is pushing FIOS in a major way. Is that what you have? Do you know anyone with Direct TV that is pleased with the service? They seem to offer alot for less or the same money that I am paying now.

BTW, did you get the set calibrated by them? (BB?)

Yea, I'm very fond of WC - went to college here , spent a few years in Newark and back for the last 7. They have the food fest next Sunday I believe in town (its great if you have not been to before).

I used to have directv (was a customer since around 99) but after some major issues with customer service and some reception issues I ended up dropping them for verizon when it was offered in this area. PQ IMHO I feel is better from verizon (less compression) and the price is cheaper also. If you need the NFL ticket your stuck with DTV. Internet access has been flawless through FIOS also. And you can typically get ahold of a FIOS support person within about 2 min (day or night) try that trick with DTV hehe.
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post #217 of 3491
9/8/07 at 2:39pm
I have been following this thread and have to say that I am very much leaning towards this TV. I have a few questions that I haven't seen answered:

1) Does the 120Hz eliminate RBE, or is it really for eliminating blur.

2) It seems as if they left off a PC connector. It would be nice to connect my laptop to it. Am I missing something with this? I even looked at Mits website. The RS232 connector wouldn't do this for me? What would the RS232 connector provide?

Thanks...
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post #218 of 3491
9/8/07 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by stevem123 View Post

I have been following this thread and have to say that I am very much leaning towards this TV. I have a few questions that I haven't seen answered:

1) Does the 120Hz eliminate RBE, or is it really for eliminating blur.

2) It seems as if they left off a PC connector. It would be nice to connect my laptop to it. Am I missing something with this? I even looked at Mits website. The RS232 connector wouldn't do this for me? What would the RS232 connector provide?

Thanks...

Hi;
Do not worry about the pc input. One of the HDMI(s) could be used as a pc input. Last year model and for the past several years, it was either DVI or VGA with all kinds of dlp.
The RS232C is for you to connect it serially to a PC, which could also be used for communication with other RS232 enabled devices.
Remember the old modem connection which used to use serial port 1 IRQ 3, serial 2 IRQ4 and so forth.
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post #219 of 3491
9/8/07 at 8:29pm
got my 73833 a couple of days ago. Few things worth mentioning, out of box the geeometry was pretty unsightly, some pincushioning mostly. Fortunatly, using the new tools for manual geometry adjustments it is an easy and interesting fix.

Next, you will all be pleased to know, yet another 833 with no audible whining at all. It's actually very silent. My bulb had 0 hours on it when I checked at the dealer. The blue lights are great and very soft, not a distraction at all.

On the negative side, I def will have this set calibrated. Out of the box with end user settings, its a little soft and blurry for my personal tastes. I had a 65831 before this set, i dont remember that sert being this soft. Perhaps it is the nature of a 73" screen? On that note, the 65831 was a 100% sweet set and I will always remember it fondly. This 73833 has some big shoes to fill, it had a bit of a rough start, but once the geometry was fixed and the calibration done, it will be just as good as my 831........only huger!
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post #220 of 3491
9/9/07 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by thegentlegiant View Post

So, it does "work" per se, but I do not want to have the AV receiver turned on in order to watch the TV, & previously I did not with my older Sammy set as it passed the signal through whether the power on the AVR was on or off. Did I just set this up wrong, or do I have to run a separate hookup directly to the TV & bypass the AVR? I don't know if I need to change anything on the TV itself or the AVR, since I have not made any changes to the AVR & it worked fine before.

I'm not sure how you managed to get it worked before. if I understand this correctly, you are using you receiver as the central switch for all sources for both video and audio. So there's only one video going out from the receiver to the tv. In a sense you never have to select the input on the TV. Simply use your receiver to control what signal go to the TV and the sound will be handle by receiver as well. So the receiver will always to be on together with the TV and your source.

That's how I do i on my system.
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post #221 of 3491
9/9/07 at 2:19am
I have a 73833 on order; I went to look at TV'S yesterday and noticed a 65734 and 65833 sitting side by side with the same feed. I have to say that the 734 looked better to me; now I know this is a matter of opinion, and there could be a lot of factors involved. The picture on the 734 was brighter; I know brighter does not always mean better. Overall the picture just looked better to me. I am thinking and hoping that they just didn't have the 833 calibrated right.

So anyway I came on to AVS tonight to look up the 734 and found screen shots on this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post10910505; amazing!!!! My question is; do any of the current owners feel that their set has as good of a picture as the screen shots on the linked thread? The shots really look good and I can only hope that the 73833 can look as good.

I will post screen shots when I get my set on Tuesday.
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post #222 of 3491
9/9/07 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by George Omoregie View Post

For the Mitsu 833 diamond, the tv will only give you 1080i. Upconversion to 1080P is for HDMI only. Check the specification.
gto

What tells you that your signal is upconverted? With my DVD player set to 480P and playing on the 65833, hitting the Info Button on the Mits remote reveals 480P Standard. Have I missed a setting somewere?
Thanks in advance....

BTW: No loud fan or color wheel noise, set was made in AUG 07.
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post #223 of 3491
9/9/07 at 6:49am
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Originally posted by usmcss:
I have a 73833 on order; I went to look at TV'S yesterday and noticed a 65734 and 65833 sitting side by side with the same feed. I have to say that the 734 looked better to me; now I know this is a matter of opinion, and there could be a lot of factors involved. The picture on the 734 was brighter; I know brighter does not always mean better. Overall the picture just looked better to me. I am thinking and hoping that they just didn't have the 833 calibrated right.

I am debating between the 73833 and the XBR5 SXRD when it comes out. However, I was looking at the 73833 right next to the 73734 at my local high end dealer. I too thought the 734 looked better than the 833. It was a football game and the colors looked deeper and sharper. The salesman said I was "the second person to comment on that today". Maybe it was just a calibration issue, but this wasn't a BB that I was at.

I will definitely look at them again at a later date. I also want to compare them to the XBR5, but if Sony continues to demand outrageous prices for incremental differences, I will probably go with Mitsubishi.
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post #224 of 3491
9/9/07 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by dodkalm81 View Post

yeah the link is here http://www.htguys.com/archive/2007/April20.html

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I actually tried the settings located at this link and didn't like them at all. I ended up doing a reset to factory defaults which looks a lot better to me. I will have to do some tweeking on my own to see what looks good to me. I like the bright picture out of the box and the settings above made it look darker and less sharp to me.
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post #225 of 3491
9/9/07 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by LowellG View Post

I am debating between the 73833 and the XBR5 SXRD when it comes out. However, I was looking at the 73833 right next to the 73734 at my local high end dealer. I too thought the 734 looked better than the 833. It was a football game and the colors looked deeper and sharper. The salesman said I was "the second person to comment on that today". Maybe it was just a calibration issue, but this wasn't a BB that I was at.

I will definitely look at them again at a later date. I also want to compare them to the XBR5, but if Sony continues to demand outrageous prices for incremental differences, I will probably go with Mitsubishi.


I was looking at a Football game as well Lowell; Michigan State.

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I actually tried the settings located at this link and didn't like them at all. I ended up doing a reset to factory defaults which looks a lot better to me. I will have to do some tweeking on my own to see what looks good to me. I like the bright picture out of the box and the settings above made it look darker and less sharp to me.
Today 08:49 AM

The salesman told me they toned the 73833 down; so maybe it would have looked better out of the box; I sure hope so.
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post #226 of 3491
9/9/07 at 8:05am
It would be great to hear from some owners and see what they say about whether the 833 can compare to the screen shots of 734. I can say that although the 734 was brighter, the 833 colors were more natural. And brighter physiologically makes some of us think better, which is not always true.

I think we will all be very happy with this set once it's in our homes.
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post #227 of 3491
9/9/07 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by usmcss View Post

It would be great to hear from some owners and see what they say about whether the 833 can compare to the screen shots of 734. I can say that although the 734 was brighter, the 833 colors were more natural. And brighter physiologically makes some of us think better, which is not always true.

I think we will all be very happy with this set once it's in our homes.

When setup right, the PQ looks great on both (734, 833)But for 120Hz on 833,they have same features for video setup, i have both, had them side-by-side for 5 days, and after tweak the settings ,it hard to tell the different beween the two, as far as PQ!
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post #228 of 3491
9/9/07 at 9:31am
I have the 65833 a denon 4308ci receiver and Directv hr20-700. I have horrible lip synch problems with showtime. The HBO feed seems to be working fine. I have the denon set up so lip sync is on. I watched the video on HDMI web site about lip sync. It says that there is a way to have the tv let your receiver know the delay factor. I have been unable to find this setting in the mits menu. I would love some help with this if anyone has solved or is working on this problem
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post #229 of 3491
9/9/07 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by tlbowerts View Post

When setup right, the PQ looks great on both (734, 833)But for 120Hz on 833,they have same features for video setup, i have both, had them side-by-side for 5 days, and after tweak the settings ,it hard to tell the different beween the two, as far as PQ!

could you tell if the 120hz makes any difference with any material?
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post #230 of 3491
9/9/07 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by stevem123 View Post

I have been following this thread and have to say that I am very much leaning towards this TV. I have a few questions that I haven't seen answered:

1) Does the 120Hz eliminate RBE, or is it really for eliminating blur.

2) It seems as if they left off a PC connector. It would be nice to connect my laptop to it. Am I missing something with this? I even looked at Mits website. The RS232 connector wouldn't do this for me? What would the RS232 connector provide?

Thanks...

Stevem123: I had this same issue. My last set had a DVI connection, so I just used a normal DVI-DVI cable to connect it to my TV. For this new set I had to get a DVI-HDMI cable. I purchased this one, which seems well-made. Monoprice has been great so far.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

Also, re: the RS232 connection. I've seen this on a lot of TVs, but I'm still unclear about what functionality it can provide me. Can someone explain it more fully?

I've got the PC with the serial connection available. Just don't know what I'd do wit hit.

Thanks!
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post #231 of 3491
9/9/07 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by usmcss View Post

So anyway I came on to AVS tonight to look up the 734 and found screen shots on this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post10910505; amazing!!!! My question is; do any of the current owners feel that their set has as good of a picture as the screen shots on the linked thread?


i have my 73833 hooked up to my ps3 via hdmi and my blu ray titles of course blow those shots out of the water. my sd movies i have watched look better imo. the blu ray titles i own all look better than that hddvd shot of jack black. as far as the universal logo, id say comperable pq.
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post #232 of 3491
9/9/07 at 2:03pm
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my sd movies i have watched look better imo.

Eh, trying to use uploaded camera shots of a TV screen to compare to the PQ that you see on your TV with your own eyes is about useless.

The 734 and the 833 both have amazing PQ. I doubt in real-world use there's any material difference at all in PQ.
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post #233 of 3491
9/9/07 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by JimSr View Post

What tells you that your signal is upconverted? With my DVD player set to 480P and playing on the 65833, hitting the Info Button on the Mits remote reveals 480P Standard. Have I missed a setting somewere?
Thanks in advance....

BTW: No loud fan or color wheel noise, set was made in AUG 07.


Well the 52525 converts everything to 720p its native display. The native display for the xx833 is 1080p. I am pretty sure every tv converts the inputed signal to its native display.
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post #234 of 3491
9/9/07 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

could you tell if the 120hz makes any difference with any material?

It makes a difference with gaming!
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post #235 of 3491
9/9/07 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by TAF View Post

I have the 65833 a denon 4308ci receiver and Directv hr20-700. I have horrible lip synch problems with showtime. The HBO feed seems to be working fine. I have the denon set up so lip sync is on. I watched the video on HDMI web site about lip sync. It says that there is a way to have the tv let your receiver know the delay factor. I have been unable to find this setting in the mits menu. I would love some help with this if anyone has solved or is working on this problem
thanks

I believe I have the same problem with showtime and it has never, ever existed on other channels. In fact, it only occurs every once in a while on showtime.

I dont know if there is a cure, although I am sure that if there is it has been posted somewhere on this site.
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post #236 of 3491
9/10/07 at 12:10am
looking @ the 73". I've only had 2 Mits sets in 20yrs so figured I stick with em...

anyone try the 2 antenna inputs? Night time tv shows about to start. does one or both have qam or can accept ota-hd? That way I can do cable to one and ota to the other.

Also does anyone have a pdf of the manual?
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post #237 of 3491
9/10/07 at 6:34am
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looking @ the 73". I've only had 2 Mits sets in 20yrs so figured I stick with em...

anyone try the 2 antenna inputs? Night time tv shows about to start. does one or both have qam or can accept ota-hd? That way I can do cable to one and ota to the other.

Also does anyone have a pdf of the manual?

I asked Mitsubishi CS for a manual before deciding to order the 73833. It took
a "level 2" rep, but they finally did email one to me. I am sure it will eventually
appear on their website. Meanwhile, I'll be happy to email the pdf file to you
if you can accept a 7.2MB attachment.

As to the antenna inputs -- yes, this is what they are there for.

-- Ron
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post #238 of 3491
9/10/07 at 6:38am
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Originally Posted by Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

could you tell if the 120hz makes any difference with any material?

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It makes a difference with gaming!

Also, 24fps movies should appear much smoother.

-- Ron
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post #239 of 3491
9/10/07 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by tlbowerts View Post

When setup right, the PQ looks great on both (734, 833)But for 120Hz on 833,they have same features for video setup, i have both, had them side-by-side for 5 days, and after tweak the settings ,it hard to tell the different beween the two, as far as PQ!

Very glad to hear that tlbowerts; thank you for the reply!
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post #240 of 3491
9/10/07 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by akrias View Post

i have my 73833 hooked up to my ps3 via hdmi and my blu ray titles of course blow those shots out of the water. my sd movies i have watched look better imo. the blu ray titles i own all look better than that hddvd shot of jack black. as far as the universal logo, id say comperable pq.

Great to hear; I never even thought to see if there was a difference in PQ between Blue Ray and HD-DVD. I currently have an XBOX 360 Elite and plan on purchasing the HD player for it. If it looks as good as the screen shots I linked too then I will be happy.

Thanks for the reply.
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