Rock Band: The Next Great Franchise - Page 27

Originally Posted by Sundull

Is this guitar any good if I wanted to get a second guitar?

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Originally Posted by EA

Hello,

I know that many of you have been waiting for quite awhile, but we have good news.

All Canadian RMAs placed before January 9th, have shipped!

You should see that your RMAs have all been updated to Parts Shipped to reflect this. Depending on where in Canada you live, you should receive your replacement item within the next six days. If you have not received your new peripheral by January 16th, please contact customer support at www.support.ea.com. Be sure to create a new incident rather than updating your RMA incident to prevent any possible issues.

In appreciation of the patience of our Canadian customers who placed an RMA prior to January 9th, we are not requiring customers receiving this set of RMAs to return your faulty peripheral to us and we will also be removing your credit card hold within the next few days.

Thank you again for your patience as we build and improve our Canadian Rock Band warranty program. Please accept our apologies for the wait and any inconvenience.

EA Customer Support

Originally Posted by pdiss88

From my point of view, Rock Band's guitar parts (the only thing I'm really experienced at in the game) are WAY too easy. This game is obviously made for more casual gamers that play only in larger groups. A lot of people say this is better than Guitar Hero 3, but I'll take the challenge of GH3 over Rock Band any day.

Originally Posted by Kess

To me the challenge of GH3 is more hopeful button mashing than...fun. GH3 on hard/expert is near impossible for me. At least with Rock Band, even if there's a tough song, I always feel like it's do-able, or at least within reason.

Originally Posted by DaverJ

+1... I've been going through the guitar/hard/solo career and am at the last tier, with the 2 country rock songs left unbeaten: Flirtin' W/ Disaster and Green Grass & High Tides. The solo sections of these two songs pose a decent challenge to any Guitar Hero player. But the difference between these tough songs in RockBand and the Guitar Hero 3 tough songs (i.e. Slayer's Raining Blood) is a) the RockBand songs are fun to play and 2) the RockBand charts feel very connected to the music.

I guess the best compliment I can pay Harmonix is this: if I was in my car I would rather be listening to Slayer... but if I'm holding a guitar controller, I would rather be playing Molly Hatchet. And that's all because of the game's note charts.

Originally Posted by DaverJ

+1... I've been going through the guitar/hard/solo career and am at the last tier, with the 2 country rock songs left unbeaten: Flirtin' W/ Disaster and Green Grass & High Tides. The solo sections of these two songs pose a decent challenge to any Guitar Hero player.

Originally Posted by ferrisg

I'm just glad both games exist. RB is fun to play because it's easy and has lots of new songs, and GH is fun to play because it's more challenging.

Originally Posted by DaverJ

There's supposed to be something like FOUR Guitar Hero games slated for the next year or two, so I doubt the series is going anywhere. Yet as much as I love listening to metal, I've found great fun in playing things like Maps, Dani California, I Fought the Law, Roxanne, My Sharnona... even the country rock songs -- something that's driving the wife nuts at the moment! So maybe within these upcoming GH games we'll see some more variety in type of songs.

Originally Posted by pdiss88

From my point of view, Rock Band's guitar parts (the only thing I'm really experienced at in the game) are WAY too easy. This game is obviously made for more casual gamers that play only in larger groups. A lot of people say this is better than Guitar Hero 3, but I'll take the challenge of GH3 over Rock Band any day.

Originally Posted by mikeny

For the most part, I agree with your statement. That being said the last 2 songs in the RB Solo Guitar Tour (Hard) are challenging. Still for me they were challenging for an hour where the GH3 final tier has been challenging for a month.

I've said this before as well. This is why RB is so much easier on Guitar:

1. The ease of the Overdrive phrases as opposed to the intricate Star Power phrases in GH3.

2. The frequency of the Overdrive phrases as opposed to the few SP phrases in GH3.

3. The effect of the OD use as opposed to the the effect of SP use.

4. The tolerance of the crowd meter in RB as opposed to the tolerance of the rock meter in GH3.

IMO, the charts are not necessarily easier in RB but the cumulative effect of all of the above is what makes it so much easier.

2 things harder in RB:

1. Of course, hammer-ons are harder to master in RB but you could adjust and get used to it.

2. Timing windows are indeed tighter in RB.

As a result the above, I find that I play GH better after playing RB.

Originally Posted by Kess

Not everyone can handle the challenge like you. To me the challenge of GH3 is more hopeful button mashing than...fun. GH3 on hard/expert is near impossible for me.

Originally Posted by DaverJ

But the difference between these tough songs in RockBand and the Guitar Hero 3 tough songs (i.e. Slayer's Raining Blood) is a) the RockBand songs are fun to play and 2) the RockBand charts feel very connected to the music.

Originally Posted by pdiss88

I'm going to have to agree with you about Raining Blood being a chore to play in GH3. On expert, it's mostly a bunch of nonsense and hammer-ons you have to get lucky with. However, I do feel connected to the music in GH3 for the most part. Besides the songs with incomprehensible solos on the later tiers that you can only possibly master by doing dry runs and playing a lot, the songs have rhythms that you can actually enjoy and parts where you almost feel like your muscle memory takes over (Barracuda, Holiday in Cambodia, Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll, etc.). That being said, GH3 and RB have A LOT of the same songs. Does anyone know if the mappings are any different than GH3 on RB's versions of the songs? I know for a fact that GH3 didn't really pay too much attention to some parts of the mapping, as they made some parts harder or very unnecessary (A certain part of the chorus in Even Flow, the beginning of Holiday in Cambodia, etc.).

Originally Posted by pdiss88

That's fair enough, as nearly all my friends except that ones that can play on hard/expert consistently prefer RB over GH3. However, people who have played since GH1 and have pretty much mastered the game (and by mastered I just mean can beat all three on expert with any star level) are bored on most of the songs on RB. The game is a great multiplayer experience, but those who are looking for intensely hard solos and badass hammer-ons, myself included, were kind of disappointed. Overall, It's a game that I would have a blast playing multiplayer with 3 friends (the drums are a whole new challenge for me), but for a wholesome 1-player experience and online competition, I'd have to go with GH3.

Originally Posted by lespaul91

For a great 1-player experience and something more challenging why not try to learn to play an actual guitar? To learn to play even the simplest songs in either of these games on an actual guitar is probably bringing up the challenge level by a factor of 100.

Originally Posted by logicalnoise

my response:
1. Not all OD are that easy and since the idea is to string OD rather than just acheive it it balances out the highend of the leaderboards.



2. since RB centers on co-op the amount of OD phrases is to balance the lack of control other instruments have over OD.



3. What effect? it's the same as GH only you can chain OD phrases and that it can save your bandmates.



4. If I miss 1 bar of the GGAHT solo I fail. If I miss one bar of the raining blood intro I fail. I've never seen a difference. Both meters just take into account the number of notes missed and the total notes in the song.



We all agree that RB leans towards the casual side but it's obvious from the two hardest tracks on the disk and the Metallica pack that the difficulty curve can get extremely high. If Through the fire and through teh flames was on RB it'd be harder than the GH version.

Originally Posted by lespaul91

For a great 1-player experience and something more challenging why not try to learn to play an actual guitar? To learn to play even the simplest songs in either of these games on an actual guitar is probably bringing up the challenge level by a factor of 100.

Originally Posted by pdiss88

Already done that. I can play pretty much every song up to tier 3 (can't do Lay Down or anything of similar difficulty) but it's just a pastime. This isn't the issue at hand, as GH3 and RB are games and guitar is an instrument.

Originally Posted by sgolko

I apologize in advance for asking questions that I am sure has already been answered several times, but I tried a quick search and a quick browse through this thread and found nothing. I don't have time right now to read the entire 12 pages to find the answers

1) Can someone confirm that that the RB guitar does not work for GH3, and the GH3 guitar does not work for RB? I have heard that activision had a patch that would let it, but has not released it yet. Speculation on if it IS ever going to happen? IE can i buy RB now and expect that sometime in the future that guitar will work for GH3? (i'm on PS3 BTW).

2) How easily and tidily does the drum set pack away? I would like to have this game, but am not going to play it every day, and do not want a drum set sitting in the middle of the limited living room space. I also do not want to spend 30 minutes assembling the drums every time I want to play.

Thanks for your help in advance, and sorry again for asking questions that have already been asked.

Originally Posted by sgolko

I apologize in advance for asking questions that I am sure has already been answered several times, but I tried a quick search and a quick browse through this thread and found nothing. I don't have time right now to read the entire 12 pages to find the answers

1) Can someone confirm that that the RB guitar does not work for GH3, and the GH3 guitar does not work for RB? I have heard that activision had a patch that would let it, but has not released it yet. Speculation on if it IS ever going to happen? IE can i buy RB now and expect that sometime in the future that guitar will work for GH3? (i'm on PS3 BTW).

2) How easily and tidily does the drum set pack away? I would like to have this game, but am not going to play it every day, and do not want a drum set sitting in the middle of the limited living room space. I also do not want to spend 30 minutes assembling the drums every time I want to play.

Thanks for your help in advance, and sorry again for asking questions that have already been asked.