Screenshot War!!!!!!!! - Page 5

Damn, I really need to calibrate BOTH my 909 and my camera. The difference in shadow detail is striking. Unfortunately I have no way to tweak the gamma from the PS3...

Moome's upcoming external HDMI box will feature gamma adjustments. You should really consider that (or a C2 Pro, Radience or VP50 perhaps).

Kai

Wow indeed! But... I'm missing something in your and Clarence's screenshots, and that's sharpness. This very scene is very grainy, but I hardly see any grain in your shots (and Clarence's). I'd say that my screenshot comes much closer with regards to sharpness

Yours:



Mine:

Look at the whiteness of the horse. One is clipping and one is not. For that extra lumens of low end increase, the upper end suffers. This is the problem that I have with gamma fixing.

I've added mine to the two. The grain is there on my screen, as it is in Spot's screenshot. But it's not showing so well in the image I took (below). My camera does not always focus so well, so it's missing that grain a lot more than what's on the screen. I think the grain is pause related, and would depend on the player as to how it would show up.



Mine:

That is why I love using the Lumagens Gamma controls. It is 11 pt fix from 0 IRE to 100 IRE so you can lower or increase each point another thing is if you have really good calibration equipment and alot of time you can change the IRE you want to change. so say you like your 10 IRE but it is a bit crushed at 13. you can change you 10 IRE to 13 and then bump that. It will add lumens starting at 13 and leave 10-13 alone, at least in theory, i dont have a calibrator to test this but this is hwat my calibrator explained to me the last time he was here. so i dont use the Moomes gamma control, i tired it and got exactly what you showed here. Now that would be asweet hdmi card if it had that type of control over a given IRE but then Moome would most definatly need an OSD for the user to see what he or she is adjusting. Are there any She's on this forum? hmmmm

Athanasios

Wow those screen shots are amazing guys kudus all around but can you do this with your CRT??

http://haha.nu/creative/how-to-make-shadows-on-the-wall

I didn't buy my RS1 to watch movies, secretly this is my longing. Puts down the Jameson.... then puts down the Jameson... hey it's 5 o'clock somewhere..

When in the 11 point calibration mode which do you change that effects gamma, is it IRE? I do not see anything labeled gamma. Thanks!!

Looks like y'all are using tripods for your screenshots. They all look really crisp, and with the time it takes to allow the lens to stay open during the shot, if not they would be showing lots of sway. A tripod makes sure the cam stays absolutely stock stable for the whole set of seconds the shutter is open.

You can get an even better shot by using the timer, so that your hands don't affect the cam at all during the shot, which will happen 10 seconds after you have removed your hands from touching it any further.

Of course the bigger the lens, the more the light gathering capacity of your cam. One with a 10x or 12x zoom capacity will have a very wide lens and as such very high light gathering capacity, and its shutter will need to stay open a far shorter length of time than a cam with a tiny lens, which would have to stay open several seconds on many of the darker screenshots.

The 6 year old screenshot on the front cover of my website - more visible by clicking the thumbnail version, inside in the Screenshots section - was done with a 35mm film camera on tripod at 6' on my 65" Panny RPTV. It's not the best in the world for colorations for various reasons I won't go into here, but it showed the crispness very nicely.

The 35mm was a Canon Photura, and even with a wide lens and strong telephoto capacity, the shutter still stayed open for several seconds on that shot. A tripod was an absolute must, as was its 10 second timer.

Of course from looking at your screenshots here, you guys know all this already!


Mr Bob

The Lumens, at work so i cant look but i think it say's lumens or luma something like that.

Athanasios

I have no need to post screen shots, my projector isn't an extension of my already abnormally large penis..

Today I set up my Lumagen, my HD DVD, HDFury. I might even try to stack the second 9500 Ultra sitting on the floor.

Then you'll all be owned.... bitches!

(well except for Cliff, he already owns all of us.)

The fun thing is with a digital you can still do those shadow puppets during full fades to black. Really adds to the fun I think.

Art

Well it sure makes for fun times during the down times when the bulb burns out...



... ummmm wait a sec, no, that's not quite right..

I'll have plenty of bulbs on the shelf waiting... bulbs are like ink cartridges or tone cartridges to me, or bullets to Cliff. You don't buy the gun to shoot things and then bitch about how much the bullets cost.

Shadow puppets have a very high entrainment value when you so blitz you can't find the remote. I'm still trying to get that Michigan J frog shadow puppet down.. "Hello my baby, hello my honey...."

Ok, you're right. I don't recall seeing that peaking in the whites. Not sure, but it seems that Casino Royal is a bit hotter than most other movies. It's not one of my best. I just can't seem to get good detail from it.


here's a good one to show both dynamics and detail..

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