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Originally Posted by Gino AUS View Post

That may be the case, but you don't find Jack's hat a little too fluorescent?
http://www.plaatjesupload.nl/bekijk/...179769-580.jpg
I don't recall it looking like that when I watched this movie.

Cameras don't have enough dynamic range to capture an accurate image from most displays. You either have clipped shadow details or blown-out highlights. (as is the case here)
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JUST IN CASE YOU GUYS MISSED THIS:

William's 9500 Blend 12ft wide DVX Processor:



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G90 Stack:

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Wow, what a great stuff i got here lots of mine favorite, just keep up posting more.
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Originally Posted by andrewfee View Post

Cameras don't have enough dynamic range to capture an accurate image from most displays. You either have clipped shadow details or blown-out highlights. (as is the case here)

I know this, and it is his screenshots I am critiquing, not his setup.

You can try get around this with HDR images to some extent.
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There used to be a little corner here for us RPCRT folks, so I came back just to let the world at large know that there are lots of other wonderful CRT's alive and well and doing a fabulous job (just not quite as fabulous as the PJ's that "reside" here):





Hitachi 57F59A

Michael
post #2257 of 5447
Very nice shots, Michael. Esp. leaving them rather big, and still your crispness doesn't falter.



Mr Bob
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Very nice shots, Michael. Esp. leaving them rather big, and still your crispness doesn't falter.



Mr Bob


Thanks. And thanks again for the help up the very steep learning curve.
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

Thanks. And thanks again for the help up the very steep learning curve.

And thank YOU for the fabulous setup disc you sent. Will be fun to explore it -




Mr Bob
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Originally Posted by overclkr View Post

G90 Stack:


Dang..... that is a nice one. The color tone you captured is a top notch.

I think your camera is better than mineeeeeee.


Check out my latest Japanese pics --> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...733641&page=30
These are compressed HD's from Japanese broadcasts. Of course, playback using my HTPC.


Have fun you all.
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Check out my latest Japanese pics --> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...733641&page=30
These are compressed HD's from Japanese broadcasts. Of course, playback using my HTPC.


Have fun you all.

Nice shootin'. Must have taken you quite awhile, shooting all those. Did the manual mode require lots of changes, as you went along?


Mr Bob
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Nice shootin'. Must have taken you quite awhile, shooting all those. Did the manual mode require lots of changes, as you went along?


Mr Bob

Thanks Mr Bob. Yea I've put a lot of hours on these pics. I take about 10 pics of each shot and pick the best one. I use manual setting. I had to change light aperture (F-Stop #'s) and white balance constantly in order to capture the image as close as possible. All the rest of settings were programmed for taking this kind of shots so they are good.


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Some shots of Cool hand Luke.
Andres these are with your CLM My PJ is still not optically focused to its potential. I keep moving around so its never 100% lined up, also CPC magnets are off, lots of work to do. Plus took pics at angle so overall camera focus is off too.









Athanasios
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Adreas is me, right?

...Andres
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Originally Posted by antorsae View Post

Adreas is me, right?

...Andres

Yep I keep doing that to your name!!!!! Sorry Bro I am going to ship them out today, hopefull they will be there on monday or tuesday next week I burned the midnight oil on the second board this weekend, at least 16 hours of work dude ! Once again I had a bad Chip from Ti, not good so far seems like every third chip i tried was bad, this time it was the OPA4134(Burr Brown chip). Also I had an issue with a few caps that were bad. But i watched most of dark city last night with it, nice! If you dont have that disc get it even though it mostly dark black scenes the colors that "are" there are really really nice contrast to the darkness. Cool hand Luke is an ok transfer but not the best, washed out colors, not as good as Grand Prix transfer on HD DVD for an older movie.

The 22uf SMT tants I usd on your and keeping the Original ceramic 100hf caps works better I think than how mine was done, cant put my finger on it but I liked watching your boards more, easier on the eyes is how to best describe it. Ordering those now for mine !!! I think they are lower ESR than the ones i have on mine. I just hope there will be no start up problems when used with mikes boards. But I think my use of SMT's might lessen any start up issues. I had none.

I hope it makes a difference on your PJ's.

Athanasios
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Athanasios, can you describe what these mods to the CLM do for the picture?

I hope they arrive there in time for my visit so I can see, if they are good I'll likely send mine over
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To me it seams the colors are deeper, richer. no resolving improvement but a viewing experiance that is easier on the eyes , I cant explain what the diffrence is because its so sublte, but I know i like it! KBK said the same thing, that lines are drawn where they are suppose to be which improves color, and he was running 1080p@ high scan rates with out any MP mods, so he must have liked a soft pic with the improved colors. I can see scanline at 1080p on my 8500 but they are not well defined but are still dicernable. I have only done some neck board upgrades as per my thread on curts, so its not a big improvement like MP mods but good enough for me.
So basicly deeper colors, Dark City looked great color wise, especially the scene when he goes to the hookers apartment, the beads, staind glass sconces, her skin tone...it just was awesome. A great movie for CRT.

I hope Andre is happy with them, I am only concered with the start up since there is a lot of added capacitance to that board, and With the extra capacitance mike used on his boards it might be too much for the LVPS, But I have added a bit more capacitance to the FCM and VNB's and I have not had one issue with start ups at all with my fully modded CLM's, as I said before I used SMT tants where KBK used radial dipped on mark haflich's board where mike had to remove a few to get it to start up. I added a few 1uf tants to the package incase Andre has to remove some to get it to start up but I think it should be fine.

Oh and KBK said it lowered the noise floor a few decibles onthe power rails, i have not tested this but ti seams to be the case.

EDIT: Ok I found the links and post by Ken (KBK) about the changes he made to the Marquee,

http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/s...369#post676369

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Originally Posted by KBK View Post

There are other things you can go after to eliminate noise in the PJ. If it has a central board that handles sweep duties,and any of the input or line amplifiers, then go after any electrolytics there. If the unit has electrostatic focus and/or electronically derived focus control circuits, they are CRITICAL to image quality. Go after those, if any electrolytics are involved. Specifically any line drawing or horizontal/vertical control circuitry. The dividers/ clocking circuitry are VITAL for line placement and control which DIRECTLY equates to focus and control. So, re-doing the VIM or control board in a marquee creates a VERY stable and film like image, as well as doing the rest of the boards. in the marquee chassis i have, the appearance of the image, after doing the rest of the PJ, as that the noise floor and stability of the image took a HUGE jump forward after the mods to this main control board. SO, the VIM board on the Marquee, and any equivalent on a Ampro chassis. For me, it was a 'appearance' of about a 3-5db change in the video S/N ratio. That's absolutely HUGE. But then again, I had done every single part in the PJ before that, the control module was the last thing I did, and seemed to be vital to the image quality,as Chris Stephens said it would be. Funny, for some reason, I left it for last.

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Ken Hotte

And this one that explains the CLM mod, i added the Mike Parker Mod, and some chip changes.

http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/s...647#post677647

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Originally Posted by KBK View Post

I have made the situation a bit murky. What I was speaking of was TWO different boards, but did not make that clear. I was speaking of the control board, which from looking from the back of a marquee chassis is on the left. It is the one with the diagnostic lights. Similar attacks should be mounted on the VIM, or input module, re the 15volt rails.

There is a entire run of circuitry on that board that runs at the 5 volt level. Lotsa logic circuitry. These chips need to have their .1uf ceramic caps removed, and swapped out with something like the following: Kemet brand, 47uf 6.3volt tantalum caps. The leads will have to be bent, and then cut, and then mounted on the solder pads. The cap is T350F476K006AS17301. There is also a run of OP-AMPS on this board as well. Some higher voltage rails are used. The buffer caps (two for each chip amp) of each rail should be swapped out to be Kemet brand 16 volt 22uf caps, or higher value. Maybe 33uf tantalum caps. They should be mounted in the same way. Same series of caps from Kemet, but 16 volt rated. Anything bigger and you raise the ghost of unreliability. Anything lower in value, and you lower the effectiveness of the modification.

I have suffered NO failures or odd behavior. This modification of the control board brings about a huge increase in the stability of the line drawing and drops the noise floor as a consequence, due to the fact that lines are being drawn in their proper spots, and therefore this equates to alignment, which is gun-to-gun alignment (overlay) which directly can be equated to maximum contrast range, or video S/N ratio. The effect this circuit has on damaging the rest of the PJ's dealing with the quality of power in the -/+ 15 volt rails is quite critical as well. When you run at 1920x1200 at 72hz like I do (simply a very high scanning number, well over a 2X multiple of the original DVD transfer, and nearly a perfect multiple of the original HD master the DVD transfer was created with), to get the BEST DVD overlay possible; these modifications, and the clairity they bring to the PJ are CRITICAL.

Fixing this at the chips involved, stops them from polluting the rest of the parts that use these rails, and gives them greater stability as well. So, the effect is doubled, in a way. Of course, those voltage rails would be corrected as well, (all other boards and circuitry) right at the parts involved, on their specific boards in question.

Video S/N ratio is what it's all about. Achieving that is what brings you closer to film. The PJ only has so much light output that it can dish out in a linear fashion. Dropping the noise floor has the same effect as increasing the overall output capacity of the PJ,whilst bringing every aspect of that Video S/N range and signal capacity to a more linear and perfectly represented level. This brings about tremendous stabiltiy to the image, and makes the experience considerably more 3-d like, and film like.

If you can't increase the output of the PJ, drop the noise floor, and linearize the behavoir of every gradation of a signal inbetween those two points. MASSIVE improvement in image quality is fully assured. A greater RANGE of signals can then be properly presented. Subjective analysis of content (DVD, HD, etc) can then take place. For instance, films like Dark City, look fantastic. You get the Video S/N ratio right where you need it, at the bottom of the range. (besides everything above that!)

Basically, HD mastering suites wish they had the image qualites that I have to suffer through enjoying. I don't care if they are using a G90, Barco Cimemax, or whatever, they ain't getting the image I am, period.

I did this and more to a ECP 4100 chassis, in an extreme way, about 1.5-2 years ago now. The ECP ROCKED. It TRASHED am mint condtion NEC GP-5000 in image fidelity. And the GP-5000 is a 9" tubed Liquid Coupled unit, with HD-10 lenses.

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Ken Hotte


Athanasios
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Athanasios, Thanks! I didn't know you completed the two boards, I thought that you finished one of them.

So next week is going to be a hell of a week: Gino and I calibrating the two heavily modded Marquees, now with modded CLMs too (I really hope they arrive in time!).

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Originally Posted by antorsae View Post

Athanasios, Thanks! I didn't know you completed the two boards, I thought that you finished one of them.

So next week is going to be a hell of a week: Gino and I calibrating the two heavily modded Marquees, now with modded CLMs too (I really hope they arrive in time!).


Yepp! when I found out Gino was coming and you wanted one board, I figured i should get my arse in gear and start the other one!! I did not test it as long as the first one but I am very confident it will be fine. I have gotten very skilled in doing this mod now (3 boards under my belt) and have started my own second board so I can start my blend. Wish I was htere to help you two ! I would have brought the TV-One units too!

Athanasios
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The Doors - Blue Ray





















Cliff
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The Doors - Blue Ray



Cliff

OMG...




Mr Bob
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OMG...



Mr Bob

Yes, we're getting old(er) (though I know that's not what you meant).
Just got a 2008 CES DTS-HD disc. Here's a hard-working lad from the Pixies:

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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

Yes, we're getting old(er) (though I know that's not what you meant).
Just got a 2008 CES DTS-HD disc. Here's a hard-working lad from the Pixies:


NICE, Michael! Esp. the depth of that edge of his face against the black background. You know how bad that transition would look if your optics were not sizzling clean, like they obviously are?


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Kill Bill Volume One First Round - Blue Ray:



















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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

Yes, we're getting old(er) (though I know that's not what you meant).
Just got a 2008 CES DTS-HD disc. Here's a hard-working lad from the Pixies:


Ahhhh good ole Frank Black ! Teenager of the year ! great album!!!

Athanasios
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Kill Bill Volume One First Round - Blue Ray:

Wow. Excellent shots as always Cliffy! These 2 discs are on their way to me right now... can't wait to watch them!

Kal
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Wow. Excellent shots as always Cliffy! These 2 discs are on their way to me right now... can't wait to watch them!

Kal

Thanks Kal.

I think you'll be very impressed.

Cliff
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Kill Bill Vol 2

















Cliff
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Nice!
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Nice!

Yeah, esp. the texture of Carradine's face. Those Schneider optics on his cam are comin' thru -

Mr Bob
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