Screenshot War!!!!!!!! - Page 106

Looking good nashou66!

That movie looks great! It's also a really good movie.

Ok, I'll see if it's local!

Try to find a copy of the Narnia movies also mike lots of eye candy in those.

its a great movie for showing white details and Dark details.

Plus a great transfer.


Athanasios

Just don't buy 'em for the scripts...

The Fall

I'll take more later, I still have too much light in the HT.

Great screenshots Mike. You've really improved your camera skills

WTG Mike. I had a hard time taking screenshots from The Fall, they just didn't turn out. It's a very vivid and colorful movie that really shows off a well setup crt pj.

Thanks Mike. I too have really enjoyed our conversations as of late... we should have started years ago.

Just so others know, I have discovered weak areas in almost every DVI/HDMI to RGB converter I have tested with high frequency. I will be posting a full write up on this in the future so stay tuned for that. In fact, the only board I have found so far that does not have an issue is John's Sony DVI-IFB version 2. All other boards and boxes I have tested are less than perfect. I will hopefully be developing a mod for the Moome boards and Mike is already getting a good start on the HDF2 to improve response.

By August I will have full disclosure on my web page with links from AVS and Curt's site.

craigr

Thanks Tom!

craigr

What - Dude name is Tom??

You mean after all this time I've been struggling with pronouncing his name (Athanasios), and he's also known as Tom..

Athanasios, Is it cool from now on to also refer to you as Tom?

I've worked for Athanasios twice, and when I worked for him the first time he said to call him Tom...

craigr

see what I mean about knuckleheads!

Kevin, just because you have the ability to talk and post stuff in this forum does not mean that you have to! (...just for the hell of talking/posting!)

You see most of us here are quite content with our CRTs and do not wish to "upgrade"!

on the other hand you seem to have some issues with your disposable digital box...not to mention a lack of solid understanding of terms and concepts that have to do with PQ and Videos!

Go back to your "digital" on section and find folks that are on the same level as you! (when it comes to all this!)

...then ravel in how blissful the world of digital is! ("A la" matrix: ignorance is bliss!)

word of advice...stop talking/posting it is embarrassing!

Remember what I said about some digital folks not being able to consciously admit that they have been had? (So they try and scoop as low as they can to put down our CRTs!)

News flash: we do not care and are happy with our "beasts" on the other hand you are the one unable to come to terms with all this and "yapping" none sense here!


You have your digital and we do not care!!!

...SO GO AWAY!

I move to:
Ignore such "people" from this point on in this thread!
...nless they have something constructive to say! (...which I doubt judging from what I have seen of this Kevin character!)

I think that most of us have been more than accommodating and it is getting to the point that it is ridiculous!

Martin

Did you mean downgrade (at least in some ways it is)??
Kevin is trying to search for self identity with his new toy. That is all.

yes CaspianM I should have said downgrading! (...it is in a lot of ways!)

unacceptable to me and I am sure to a lot of us here!

I agree Kevin just needs to "grow" poor kid is having an identity crisis of sort!

Martin

Please do not put us all Digital owners on the same boat.
I honestly dont think either technology is perfect...to me either way you are trading pros and cons.

Louis, I agree...there are trade offs in both techs!

I actually did not wish for it to sound as it did,

...not all digital owners are as this guy is!!! (In Kevin's case I think it is just him! what an annoying individual!!!)

"Higher brain function deficiency" could be a bitch for anyone!!! despite the tech!


I was just getting tired of the pointless chatter coming from this dude!

Like I said before: "Just because someone can talk and post somewhere does not mean that they are bound by a "higher call" to do it every chance that they get!" (...and yes that includes me!!! so I m gonna stop talking/posting about it! We should just ignore him from this point forward..I know that I am!...at least I will have been trying hard to do it and will try harder from here on!)


Martin

I totally understand your point. I actually have been thinking on getting a CRT several times but haven't got the chance just yet.
I am sure I will enjoy one as well as I enjoy my digital just in a different way. Heck, I enjoy South Park in my LG Vu!
When you want to have a good time, provided that the technological issues are not extremely annoying, you can pretty much ignore the technology and "live" the film.
Regards :-)

I have seen Luis' digital screen shots and he has his system calibrated as good as you can get. Kevin needs a lot of work to get his up to par with the rest of the shots here. His are too washed out or after he tried to calibrate they are too dark. he needs to read Kals calibration for dummies to realize what his PJ can do.

And yes Mike, i go by Tom here in buffalo but my Real name is Athanasios. I found that As i got older I have embraced my ethnicity and have also made all my leagal signatures Athansios. That is why on the forums I use Athanaisos as I got used to signing my name that way on documents. In the Greek language we also have many nick names for the "proper name" So for Athanasios you can also use Thanasi,Saki, Thanasaki, Nashou(old village nick name) and Nassos. Its very confusing but to me its just natural. Growing up my parents and family called me Thanasaki, which is more for younger kids as it mean literally "little Thanasi" In Greece most called me Thanasi which I prefer.... especially from the Women there it just sounds sexy in their voice.


Athanasios(Tom)

HD-350 Uncalibrated Seeing is believing....

The Best CRT shot on here i could find..

yes Kevin "seeing is certainly believing"!

just look at the white horse in the middle...(...not to mention the tree stumps!) look at its hair!

What do you see in the shot above? how about the one bellow that is the CRT one?!

Now look at the black horses...now the brown horse! Can you differentiate them in the digital pic?
Let's not even talk about the soldiers faces...(...because after all if a horse is being "smudged/blurred" then what are the chances that a soldiers face ...which is much smaller ....would not be!)

When it comes down to it it is these subtle diffrences that make up a so called "better" picture!

Now it could be that my eyes are just "tuned" to a CRT display! (...but I doubt that...because my brain isn't!)

BTW: The grass isn't even green on the pic above the CRT one...its brown!
I am not gonna even get into the cropping that is happening with the horseman on the right! another example of how "magnificent" digital is when it comes to making decisions for you! (I am sure that it could be "remedied" with an outboard video processor...but why bother since digital has a 50 dollar scaler/VP chip in it!)

Now these are just a few examples...I am sure that others could find a dozen more "irregularities"!

Martin

I don't get what you're showing here Kevin... is it how unengaging your projector is? That shot looks so washed out and blacks are too elevated and even crushed. Look at the horses hair, or the green in the foreground and compare to the CRT shot. Heck, I can't even tell there's a brown horse in your shot and there is one there in the CRT shot (7th horse from the left)

EDIT - You beat me to it Martin

...that is two opinions...in case someone was counting. (...take note Kevin3K)
Gino, I am sure you can comment on the next "engaging/seeing is believing" pic before me from our new source of "amusement" from this dude!

Martin

"Seeing is believing...."

Yes, that is truly amazing.. how did you do that....it looks like it's snowing in that scene?

Just to add that horse shot is from a calibrated triple stack unlike my uncalibrated lower end JVC so if anyone wants to post a single CRT shot for a better comparison be my guest talking is easy lets see the proof....I am still calibrating the JVC but had to post after reading all the BS....

yes Kevin...keep on calibrating!

...the bs will disappear on its own once you pour your work into that shot.

VERY IMPORTANT:

DO NOT FORGET to sprinkle some "magic dust" into the inlet opening of that digital of yours...all will be well and calibrated after that!

Good luck

Martin

THe major issue with his image is black crush/shadow detail, and white clip.
He needs to use a higher gamma curve and tweak the low end gamma.
Kevin use a calibrating disk and calibrate the low end after setting up a higher gamma curve. If rs350 is similar to rs2 use gamma 2.5 and then elevate the 5% point by about 6 clicks.
Also make sure your dcam is not blowing the high lights/crushing the low end and use a lower iso to reduce noise.

Thanks thats what i am aiming for gamma 2.6 maybe a bit high so will try 2.5 etc etc...