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post #3391 of 5446
7/27/09 at 11:48pm
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Originally Posted by crt nuts View Post

By the way ...the 909 shot shows some convergence shortcomings. Left 1/3 shows red is off and right 1/3 shows blue is off there Benny. Still great screen shot all the same.

G'day CN,

I'm aware of some minor issues in the extreme left and right with regard to convergence anomolies, but I put it down to the fact that I am using way more phosphur than the engineers at Barco ever factured in. When I initially set it up at the recommended throw distance, I could achieve essentially perfect convergence across the board. I wasn't particularly happy with all the extra phosphur face I could see being available, so I decreased the horizontal porches of my signal and moved the projector about 9 inches closer. The upshot of that however is that the convergence circuitry struggles a little at the extremes. It's a compromise I'm willing to accept to gain maximum phosphur usage for my image though. I'm still learning how to tame this beast also

In my screen shots I have tried to portray the shadow detail I see in reality. This usually means a bit of noise appears in the picture, as the Nikon is getting a bit old in the tooth now as far as sensitivity in its sensor. I absolutely HATE not seeing all the detail in the blacks. CRT's excel in that regard when given a little gamma assistance.

Here's a piccie some might be familiar with.

Cheers,

Russ

disclaimer: screen shots are an exercise in amusement and don't necessarily bear any resemblance to reality.

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post #3392 of 5446
7/28/09 at 1:34pm
Nice! If you like that one you'll enjoy the cover of my website...




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post #3393 of 5446
7/28/09 at 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post

Those shots are really easy. They are close-up full color and focus shots.

Nothing about them really shows or reveals HD performance. There's no bandwidth of pastel color challenge.

I took that same one again, but for the first time with the FuryII 1.51 and brightness calibrated.


1080P into my CRT



In the three different shots, notice the color intensity. And also be aware that I do not have a RED C element. THE PS camera does over exaggerate the colors a bit from what's on the screen, but it's actually close to what you would see if wtaching that same image a on your PC monitor at a lower resolution.

Performance shots are always bandwidth challenging because they should reveal how well a projector resolves the bandwidth that it operates at. When the bandwidth is properly resolved, there should always be tons of finer detail in objects in the backgrounds - that's really what HD is all about.


I've stayed out of this thread as I basically think it's a pointless pissing contest more about cameras than projectors...

But Mike, are you KIDDING ME???

Your shots are blurry. They are ALL blurry. You go on about 1080p, when they look like compressed Xvids, let alone DVD.

The colours are way oversaturated.

Cliff's and Russ's images are nice eye candy, nothing more. But they at least are sharp.

I'm sorry Mike, but I just can't keep my mouth shut any longer.


If you guys want to compare bandwidth, post the 1:1 black white money shots - that's the only one that counts.
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post #3394 of 5446
7/29/09 at 3:37am
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Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

I've stayed out of this thread as I basically think it's a pointless pissing contest more about cameras than projectors...

But Mike, are you KIDDING ME???

Your shots are blurry. They are ALL blurry. You go on about 1080p, when they look like compressed Xvids, let alone DVD.

The colours are way oversaturated.

Cliff's and Russ's images are nice eye candy, nothing more. But they at least are sharp.

I'm sorry Mike, but I just can't keep my mouth shut any longer.

I appreciate what you're saying here, but in the future it would make more sense if you understood what's going on with these shots.

First,before you comment about colors being "over saturated" first understand that it maybe from a cheap PS camera, because THERE are NO COLOR ADJUSTMENTS on my setup!

And if you actually knew first hand of some of the shots, you'll know that most if not all of the nature HD shots have been color boosted.

So rather than comment based on not having a true reference, it's best to keep quiet.

Also, my shots may appear to NOT be sharp, and that may also be due to the PS camera, which does not do too well on focus, because of it's lens.

However, those who are aware of what I have been posting, without a doubt have been able to clearly see how well I'm resolving the bandwidth. There's a plenty of shots that have proven that, but for some reason, that same old low resolution color boosted shot keeps popping up..

The one pixel on test, well Mark.How many times do I need to post that?? And being the only one on these and other threads that has done so, and has done so at even 1920x1080P @ 72hz, why do you continue to challenge me to do so?

Do you want me to post it one more time, or would you feel better If i had someone to come over and report back to you how well things look in person. And let me assure you of this, there's no focus issues, even at 1080P 72hz.

So rather than continue (this not your first time) post this nonsense and send me PM's with the same base less comments.

Can my setup 100% resolve 1080P 60 or 72hz, absolutely! Do I need to FURTHER prove that to you or anybody else - no!

Also, and take this from someone who actually knows what fully resolved 1080P looks like. I've said this so many times in the past, when 1080P is fully resolved, there's a huge difference in the colors, the range and intensity of the colors is something much greater than what's there with the lower resolutions. You see, when you've experienced this, you don't always need the test pattern, the colors will also confirm how well it's being resolved.

And if I was that concerned with your constant criticism, I'd get a better camera. But i see no need for that, since there are so many others out there that appreciate the shots as they are. And truly understand what's going on with them, that I'd just rather continue to post themas they appear. And if it continue to cost you more grief than what you keep indicating, then you should contact AVS and let them know about your on going grief and how troubled you are about my shots not being as good or better than others. And maybe they're delete the thread or band me from posting my shots here...

But until that happens, I'll keep posting them as simple as I take them.No sharpening, touch-up, enhancements or better cameras.


Sorry they've been causing you so much grief..
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post #3395 of 5446
7/29/09 at 4:22am
Mike down load this free software and tweak your images to match your screen image if you desire.
http://download.live.com/photogallery
I used this to tweak your own image on previous page. All I did was to reduce saturation and increase sharpness.
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post #3396 of 5446
7/29/09 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post

I appreciate what you're saying here, but in the future it would make more sense if you understood what's going on with these shots.

First,before you comment about colors being "over saturated" first understand that it maybe from a cheap PS camera, because THERE are NO COLOR ADJUSTMENTS on my setup!

And if you actually knew first hand of some of the shots, you'll know that most if not all of the nature HD shots have been color boosted.

So rather than comment based on not having a true reference, it's best to keep quiet.

Also, my shots may appear to NOT be sharp, and that may also be due to the PS camera, which does not do too well on focus, because of it's lens.

However, those who are aware of what I have been posting, without a doubt have been able to clearly see how well I'm resolving the bandwidth. There's a plenty of shots that have proven that, but for some reason, that same old low resolution color boosted shot keeps popping up..

The one pixel on test, well Mark.How many times do I need to post that?? And being the only one on these and other threads that has done so, and has done so at even 1920x1080P @ 72hz, why do you continue to challenge me to do so?

Do you want me to post it one more time, or would you feel better If i had someone to come over and report back to you how well things look in person. And let me assure you of this, there's no focus issues, even at 1080P 72hz.

So rather than continue (this not your first time) post this nonsense and send me PM's with the same base less comments.

Can my setup 100% resolve 1080P 60 or 72hz, absolutely! Do I need to FURTHER prove that to you or anybody else - no!

Also, and take this from someone who actually knows what fully resolved 1080P looks like. I've said this so many times in the past, when 1080P is fully resolved, there's a huge difference in the colors, the range and intensity of the colors is something much greater than what's there with the lower resolutions. You see, when you've experienced this, you don't always need the test pattern, the colors will also confirm how well it's being resolved.

And if I was that concerned with your constant criticism, I'd get a better camera. But i see no need for that, since there are so many others out there that appreciate the shots as they are. And truly understand what's going on with them, that I'd just rather continue to post themas they appear. And if it continue to cost you more grief than what you keep indicating, then you should contact AVS and let them know about your on going grief and how troubled you are about my shots not being as good or better than others. And maybe they're delete the thread or band me from posting my shots here...

But until that happens, I'll keep posting them as simple as I take them.No sharpening, touch-up, enhancements or better cameras.


Sorry they've been causing you so much grief..


Mike

I own Baraka. I own it on VHS, DVD letterbox, DVD Anamorphic and now Bluray.

I've watched it hundreds of times.

I'm now looking at the Chief on my 24" colour calibrated CRT monitor. This monitor truly has no problem with bandwidth at 1080p.

The Chiefs eyemask does not glow Red. It is red, but it does not glow.


I do not understand how you can say your oversaturated images, with an absence of detail, tell us that you have a high bandwidth system.

How do these shots tell you that you're bandwidth is extraordinary? Just tells me the colours are too high, either in the displayed image or the camera. The red is blooming out where it does not belong.

I don't mind if you post Screenshots, but I do mind if you try and make them out to be something that they are not.

And for others in this post, I really, really mind when others get accused of cheating. I'm seen the 909 and it really is that sharp - it looks as sharp at 1.5 screenwidths as my 24" CRT monitor does (although currently the colours are a bit too pastel). Both Cliff's and Russ's shot of the Chief are close to how that appears, although my colours are actually in between. (It will be redder on the NEC projector as the Sony phosphurs are a bit shy of the correct primaries).
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post #3397 of 5446
7/29/09 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

Mike

I own Baraka. I own it on VHS, DVD letterbox, DVD Anamorphic and now Bluray.

I've watched it hundreds of times.

I'm now looking at the Chief on my 24" colour calibrated CRT monitor. This monitor truly has no problem with bandwidth at 1080p.

The Chiefs eyemask does not glow Red. It is red, but it does not glow.


I do not understand how you can say your oversaturated images, with an absence of detail, tell us that you have a high bandwidth system.

How do these shots tell you that you're bandwidth is extraordinary? Just tells me the colours are too high, either in the displayed image or the camera. The red is blooming out where it does not belong.

I don't mind if you post Screenshots, but I do mind if you try and make them out to be something that they are not.

And for others in this post, I really, really mind when others get accused of cheating. I'm seen the 909 and it really is that sharp - it looks as sharp at 1.5 screenwidths as my 24" CRT monitor does (although currently the colours are a bit too pastel). Both Cliff's and Russ's shot of the Chief are close to how that appears, although my colours are actually in between. (It will be redder on the NEC projector as the Sony phosphurs are a bit shy of the correct primaries).

You insist on using that shot of the Chief as a reference to HIGH bandwidth, when it's really a very low bandwidth image. And in no way could it or would it represent HIGH performance in any way..

So since you're really clueless as to what you're talking about, I suggest you go back to being quiet.

There's plenty of high bandwidth shots posted. Thepeople who really understands them, know which ones they are... here's a clue, they are NEVER close-up shots..


Concerning the Barco 909. I service and maintain a very large number of them. I have been doing so for the past 6 years. I have four of them in my shop.


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I don't mind if you post Screenshots, but I do mind if you try and make them out to be something that they are not.

Well, since I'm the only person that has actually posted that test pattern that you yourself says would be THE ruler for bandwidth, then that within itself should shut you up, but no, it's just not enough is it..
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post #3398 of 5446
7/29/09 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

Mike down load this free software and tweak your images to match your screen image if you desire.
http://download.live.com/photogallery
I used this to tweak your own image on previous page. All I did was to reduce saturation and increase sharpness.


Thanks dude..

I'll try and download this to my laptop. I'm out of town this week, but will look at trying this out tonight.

I'll post back...
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post #3399 of 5446
7/29/09 at 8:29pm
My first attempt:


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post #3400 of 5446
7/29/09 at 8:39pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by HT_Fan View Post

Cliff,

Why in the world did you include this 'SHOT'? It was one that Phoebe Cates apparently couldn't take!!!

What a classic movie...

Bet he wishes that thing was aiming somewhere else.

Cliffy
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post #3401 of 5446
7/30/09 at 6:52pm
I played with the following shots using the tweaking software.


previous 1080P from my 9500LC Ultra redone with photo software








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post #3402 of 5446
7/30/09 at 9:16pm
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Originally Posted by Mark_A_W View Post

I've stayed out of this thread as I basically think it's a pointless pissing contest more about cameras than projectors...

But Mike, are you KIDDING ME???

Your shots are blurry. They are ALL blurry. You go on about 1080p, when they look like compressed Xvids, let alone DVD.

The colours are way oversaturated.

Cliff's and Russ's images are nice eye candy, nothing more. But they at least are sharp.

I'm sorry Mike, but I just can't keep my mouth shut any longer.


If you guys want to compare bandwidth, post the 1:1 black white money shots - that's the only one that counts.

If this is how you get into the thread, why don't you just continue to stay out. That wasn't a question.

I understand having an opinion on what you see, but basically coming in and pissing in someone's kool-aid, and for no reason, smacks of little man syndrome, or little something syndrome. You really felt a burning desire to come and trash someone's screenshots? Pictures of a picture? Really?

Wow.
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post #3403 of 5446
7/31/09 at 9:43am
Mark, his last shots are not blurry. And if he is posting jpeg images, then yes, those are compressed by nature of the image format. If he is showing anything from a dvd, BD, HD-Dvd, then those also are compressed because they would be mpeg or h.264 format. If you don't want compressed data, use a laserdisc or a vhs.

Most folks on here can't afford a blad with a 20mp back on it. We mere mortals are relegated to using consumer or pro-sumer devices for our pictures which hopefully will give some idea of what our setup looks like. It's in no way a "pissing contest" about cameras. This thread is meant to be in fun as has been stated in various places on here.

So, have a coke and a smile and just enjoy the thread.
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post #3404 of 5446
7/31/09 at 10:44am
You guys kill me... honestly dude, do you believe half of what you are saying (namesake). I personally don't give a rats ass about whose shot looks like this or that because I FIRST remember that my eyes are different to any one elses, SECOND, I have most likey a different monitor than most everyone else, THIRD this is a copy of a copy and FOURTH , in a rolling sequence of shots ( how movies are made) , I would most likely not be watching for shadows or glows or any one particular thing.

Then I may as well just break out the photo album.

By the way. I would like very much to know what the standard is for correct colours and who came up with that standard. As far as I've seen (my eyes), looking just oudoors on a bright sunny day, blues and greens and reds look nothing like the picturs of pictures showing on my TFT display.

I guess my TFT needs calibrating as well, but what the heck, my eyes are enjoying the view...
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post #3405 of 5446
7/31/09 at 3:31pm
Making a big deal out of nothing!!
Screen shots are fun and one way to show your set up. In fact that is the only way on the web. Bad or good that is just the way it is.
Look at this thread.. has gotten one of the highest # of hits so leave it alone for those who enjoy it.
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post #3406 of 5446
7/31/09 at 9:02pm
A few changes here. We're now using a Moome HDMI card that has been modified by me..


Blu Ray - Modified Moome HDMI Marquee card - CRT @ 1080P






















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post #3407 of 5446
7/31/09 at 10:22pm
Wow, i think these last shots are the best yet!

I remember when you first posted the M8500 shots a couple years ago, i would say "geez, i wish i could get my 1292 to look as good as that 8500...."

Honestly, lately i'd been thinking that the 8500 screenshots were better for some reason. I seemed to remember that they had more depth, more 3-D. But as I looked back on some shots, they just aren't on the same level. And while I really do still appreciate those 8500 shots, I now find myself saying "geez, i wish i could get my G90 to look as good as that 9500...."


BTW, are you saying that not only will you offer mods for my G90, you can now modify my Moome card as well?
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post #3408 of 5446
8/1/09 at 3:48am
Now Mike these are 1000 time better than any of the other shots you have been doing, and it looks like you did not even need to use the post processing program. If you keep posting shots like this no criticisms will be heard, only praise. Now share the mod with us all and we'll leave you alone

Athanasios
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post #3409 of 5446
8/1/09 at 3:50am
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Originally Posted by kypha View Post

BTW, are you saying that not only will you offer mods for my G90, you can now modify my Moome card as well?

I no longer offer mods, I prefer to just make it happen.

But both should be available sometime soon..
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post #3410 of 5446
8/1/09 at 4:56am
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Originally Posted by nashou66 View Post

If you keep posting shots like this no criticisms will be heard, only praise.

Athanasios

You mean I'll no longer be seeing comparison shots of my worst shots compared to someones else shots that were post processed?

And no more chief shots..


Man, what have I done to deserve this!
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post #3411 of 5446
8/1/09 at 9:30am
The depth on those new shots is just awesome, Mike!


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post #3412 of 5446
8/1/09 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post

You mean I'll no longer be seeing comparison shots of my worst shots compared to someones else shots that were post processed?

And no more chief shots..


Man, what have I done to deserve this!

Cliffs shots were not processed, nor were winduptoys, who's little PJ
just looks great. Mike i am not trying to be a smart ass with the last post but honestly if you are describing detail , even if its not resolution details in a shot that is blurry as hell your going to get some to criticize it. I only suggested you bump up the brightness earlier but i have to agree with the other criticisms. I am sure in person id see a much better pic but you cant claim we don't know what were looking for in your shots, we know, we have seen our own set ups and others. Even the master Ken Witcombe had to express his views and you jumped all over him too. you need to be able to take some criticism Mike and realize your not the only authority on this forum for CRT pj's or screen shots.

Plenty of great shots in this thread and your last ones are among the best so far, and i bet its from you going back and tweeking some more due to those criticisms, so constructive criticism is a good thing Mike, not a bad thing my fellow marquee fan.

Now go back to taking some more great screenies with that 9500LC!!!! These last one were very very nice.

Athanasios
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post #3413 of 5446
8/1/09 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by nashou66 View Post

Cliffs shots were not processed, nor were winduptoys, who's little PJ
just looks great. Mike i am not trying to be a smart ass with the last post but honestly if you are describing detail , even if its not resolution details in a shot that is blurry as hell your going to get some to criticize it. I only suggested you bump up the brightness earlier but i have to agree with the other criticisms. I am sure in person id see a much better pic but you cant claim we don't know what were looking for in your shots, we know, we have seen our own set ups and others

I'm now convinced that you don't have a clue as to what's really going on here.


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Even the master Ken Witcombe had to express his views and you jumped all over him too. you need to be able to take some criticism Mike and realize your not the only authority on this forum for CRT pj's or screen shots.

When you ken and whoever else post a very low resolution image, using it as a reference for when something is correct, when the person who you're comparing your shot to has made it clear that they are NOT posting images that are ready for that comparison - it's a sad and very poor attempt to expose and degrade something that someone is doing. I know it's not something that I would do, and If so, I would also post some of the other shots in comparison that clearly blows away some of the other shots that were not that good. Come on, you guys tried very hard, but you used the wrong shot for comparison. I've made it clear I've been posting resolution shots.

And from your perspective and some others, you may honor Ken as such and bow down to him. To me, it was an insult, because i would have never posted what he posted to get a point across to him, especially when it was made clear what I was doing.


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Plenty of great shots in this thread and your last ones are among the best so far, and i bet its from you going back and tweeking some more due to those criticisms, so constructive criticism is a good thing Mike, not a bad thing my fellow marquee fan.

Athanasios

If the criticism was a valid one, I would agree, but again, comments about geometry and using the shot of the chief was not something that I would consider valid points for criticism - neither had anything to do with performance.

Question: will you still be comparing more shots of mine from now on?

I would love to see you balance the playing field by also showing how things compare now - but I'm sure that's not going to happen. For some reason, it made more sense to point out flaws when weaknesses were made known

And lastly, go back and add up the positive comments I've gotten. And compare them to the few individuals (including yourself) with negative criticism. And then post back how many positive responses I've gotten in comparison to the very few criticisms.

Now, since you and Ken the master used Cliff's shots for THE reference for how my shots should look, considering I've made it clear that my setup was not yet finished nor near finished. And now that I'm nearer to my finish mark (6th gear), and you guys have provided the perfect reference CRT setup for me to compare my shots to, will you take the pleasure of posting the comparison shots from my setup and Cliff's, or should I do them?

Next week, I'm going to 6th gear. So why not warm up your Longbows and join in. I would hate to take criticism from someone who has such a HIGH end setup and they not want to join in on the FUN..
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post #3414 of 5446
8/1/09 at 12:37pm
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Question: will you still be comparing more shots of mine from now on?

Yepp

Cliffs



Your latest



look at the 5th column 3rd row from the left window shades for example, more info in Cliffs as you can see each slat of the shades disticly more clearly defined, but its because his is stacked, but on the other hand its a much larger screen than yours, 120" vs whats yours 80 something? but then again stacking two PJ adds a bit of convergence issue that could lead to a lesser than sharp image but we don't see that on Cliffs. Any how keep posting for fun this is what its about.

Athanasios
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post #3415 of 5446
8/1/09 at 12:53pm
Am I the only guy reading this thread who doesn't have a complex about something obviously not having to do with screenshots?

WTF is wrong with you guys?

Are we seriously comparing screenshots to see who's projector SET UP is better, or worse yet.....correct? I can post a shot of my daughter using the best camera in the world and I can gurantee it won't show how beauutiful she is in real life. This forum is supposed to be fun and it gets irritating seeing all these keyboard bada$$es criticizing people's shots the way they do. I get it, the thread is titled Screeshot War, but at the same time, none of these screenshots, including Cliff's, are reference for anything. Screenshot reference? Seriously?

It's not as though you all are actually talking about test pattern shots. You're talking about color and sharpness among different projectors, different screens, different lighting conditions, different brands of camera, different camera resolution, different type of camera, and different camera user skill level. I can find value in every single screenshot in this and all the other screenshot threads, but what I can't do is come in and crap on someone's efforts.

Almost all of the shots, whoever's taken them, have blown highlights, off color, and don't show all the detail available. We get it, we expect that. Calm down.
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post #3416 of 5446
8/1/09 at 1:14pm
I'm having fun !!! I love looking at all the shots taken, no pun intended I didn't start this, I like Mikes shots just giving some constructive criticism that has been given to many others, by others, along the way from the very beginning of this thread. Kens comment on Mike geometry started Mike off on this defense kick he's been on for a while now on this thread and other threads on other forums. I like Mike, even though i don't know him personally. he is one reason I got into the Marquee PJ's and His screen shots from the past are what really hooked me on getting a marquee. I am not looking back through this thread to find them but I bet there are lots of criticisms to peoples shots here as well as praises. I dont' care what others are saying about his shots, my shots from the past of anyone else's. I just commented on his blasting of Marks opinions on his claimed great shots, its his Opinion. Sure Mike has the right to argue it and this is a Screen shot WAR for Gods sake Cliff started this for the whole Bragging right thing and I think Cliffs and Spotmatics shots are the best on this thread to date. Is it there experience with cameras? could be. Is it there superbly set up PJ's? could be. Is it the Quality of the lenses in thier cameras? Could be. Or is it my own opinion of what I SEE for my self? Bingo!!!!! thats what it is. Maybe i am a blind ole bat, but only my optometrist can tell me that for sure
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post #3417 of 5446
8/1/09 at 1:26pm
here is one of my favorites of Mikes from way back in September of 2007



Everything is just right in this shot, colors, geometry and details. look at the foliage shade variations very nice.

Athanasios
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post #3418 of 5446
8/1/09 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by lordcloud View Post

Am I the only guy reading this thread who doesn't have a complex about something obviously not having to do with screenshots?

WTF is wrong with you guys?

Are we seriously comparing screenshots to see who's projector SET UP is better, or worse yet.....correct? I can post a shot of my daughter using tghe best camera in the world and I can gurantee it won't show how beauutiful she is in real life. This forum is supposed to be fun and it gets irritating seeing all these keyboard bada$$es criticizing people's shots the way they do. I get it, the thread is title Screeshot War, but at the same time, none of these screenshots, including Cliff's, are reference for anything. Screenshot reference? Seriously?

It's not as though you all are actually talking about test pattern shots. You're talking about color and sharpness among different projectors, different screens, different lighting conditions, different brands of camera, different camera resolution, different type of camera, and different camera user skill level. I can find value in every single screenshot in this and all the other screenshot threads, but what I can't do is come in and crap on someone's efforts.

Almost all of the shots, whoever's taken them, have blown highlights, off color, and don't show all the detail available. We get it, we expect that. Calm down.

You're wasting your time here with this, because it should be the essence of what we're doing, but what the criticism is really about is my shots not being as good as Cliff's. Why such childishness - I don't know. But for those who really understand what's going on, there's no need at all for me to defend anything. I'm just having such a problem with the BS, rather than simply saying why the remarks were being made.

Here's the root of it all:

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Originally Posted by nashou66 View Post

I think Cliffs and Spotmatics shots are the best on this thread to date.

And why is this being bought up in the threads the way it has, when the truth is, it's all about who's the best..

Alright, let's do this..

Fire up the Longbows, stacked G90's and let's make this happen.

When the sun goes down, I'll kick things off with the first batch of shots. And then I'll post a second batch. I'll use Blu Ray DVD's that are common and I know we all have.

At this point and for the next week, I'll ask that we kick this off with the three known Top end setups (My single 9500LC - Cliff's dual G90 stack - Athanasios Dual blended Longbows).

Hmm... my single 9500LC up against two dual projector setups. Oh well, I guess I'll have to be the little David that's going up against TWO giants.

Man. I love this hobby..
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post #3419 of 5446
8/1/09 at 1:52pm
OK, here's a few shots from Baraka, that I want to use in the first batch. We'll start out with these shots, and sometime later today, I'll put up several more shots. The shots that are posted, would have to be matched and posted for comparison..

I declare WAR!!








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8/1/09 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by Mr Bob View Post

The depth on those new shots is just awesome, Mike!

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Thanks Bob!

It's going to get a lot better now that we've finally kicked this Screen-shot war off.

Oh, I must also say how amazed I am of the many positive comments I've been getting from my shots since I've started things back up. I'm only wondering if somehow others are not able to see the comments, or maybe not able to see the shots all together, because it's puzzling that you guys keep saying positive things about the shots. And that you're also able to appreciate what I'm trying to show in the shots.

Things like depth, dimensionality, dynamics range and range and depth of colors have been my goal, and you guys have been giving me my props...

Thanks!!! I have much more coming..
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