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post #391 of 5478
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

I'll bring my monitor to the Blendzilla meet... I think you're going to be shocked at how different they look. I think you'll also understand why several people have asked why your screenshots have crushed blacks. That's why I was trying to demonstrate that it's possible to capture those low IRE details in a screenshot. Especially since that's what I consider a huge benefit of your mods.

No need to bring your monitor. My room is not light controlled. I've said that many times, and it's something you've seen yourself. It's still un-finished.


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I've always been impressed by your effective mods. I've seen your M8500 in person... very, very, very impressive. After trying 1080P@72 on my G90 and getting slightly overlapping one-on one-off scanlines, I went back to 1080P@60. I was instantly impressed when you brought up the fully-resolved 1080P@72 pattern on a "mere" 8500. IMHO, your screenshots aren't capturing any of that magic. On my monitor, your screenshots are missing a LOT of low-end detail. But I have the advantage of knowing what your projector can do first-hand.

Yes, so you know it does very well with the low end. It's just that I'm at a disadvantage with the room I'm in. Not to mention the AC tubes and no gamma.


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Nope. Apples to Apples would be same screen, same camera, same photographer, same exposure settings, etc.

I really wish i had a light controlled room with 9" LC tubes. With that, the other things I would not have a problem with.

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I don't think the differences I'm seeing should be attributed to LC vs AC. I'd guess it's:
20% due to digital camera,
20% due to photographer's technique and camera settings,
20% due to my moome gamma and calibration,
20% due to projector (8" AC vs 9" LC offset by mod vs stock and fresh tubes vs 10K hour tubes),
20% due to monitor settings.

Hey, If we can get beyond the very subtle differences you're trying to show. I still think I can hang in here with this 8500 and do well. After all, no one else has entered the war. So it wouldn't be fair to leave you on the battlefield alone..
post #392 of 5478
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post

No need to bring your monitor. My room is not light controlled. I've said that many times, and it's something you've seen yourself. It's still un-finished.

Yes, so you know it does very well with the low end. It's just that I'm at a disadvantage with the room I'm in. Not to mention the AC tubes and no gamma.

I really wish i had a light controlled room with 9" LC tubes. With that, the other things I would not have a problem with.

Hey, If we can get beyond the very subtle differences you're trying to show. I still think I can hang in here with this 8500 and do well. After all, no one else has entered the war. So it wouldn't be fair to leave you on the battlefield alone..

I think it might be better if I bail out...

I'd merely intended to provide and receive constructive criticism on screenshots... not hardware or setup comparisons.

I apologize if anyone mistook my screenshot comparisons as a G90 pissing contest. (Cliff's stack clearly wins that prize.)
post #393 of 5478
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

I think it might be better if I bail out...

I'd merely intended to provide and receive constructive criticism on screenshots... not hardware or setup comparisons.

I apologize if anyone mistook my screenshot comparisons as a G90 pissing contest. (Cliff's stack clearly wins that prize.)

Ok, I may not fully agree, but think it would be the best thing to do at this point.

I'll post the few sreenshots I have left later, and we'll put an end to the war with no one being the sole winner.

And based on the shots we all had posted, I think we can say we all came close enough to call it a draw.

post #394 of 5478
Thread Starter 
Screw both of you. I'm still posting shots damnit........
post #395 of 5478
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Originally Posted by overclkr View Post

Screw both of you. I'm still posting shots damnit........

Good . I'm learning a lot from this thread...we should continue! Let's not let our feelings get in the way .
post #396 of 5478
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Originally Posted by overclkr View Post

Screw both of you. I'm still posting shots damnit........

Ditto !!!

Once i get on of my CLM fixed I'll have a stack 8xxx going. I'm going to try for a side by side it might work since my screen is 12' wide, which allows for a little more forgiveness in geometry issues compared to a smaller screen.

Athanasios
post #397 of 5478
Guys, what blu ray players are you using? I'm thinking about getting a P1000 open box from Best Buy for ~$250. If I recall correctly, Cliff and Clarence are using PS3s? What about you Mike?
post #398 of 5478
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post

I have a VERY bad case of sinusitus and bronchitis, and it seems to not be getting better..


Vitamin C, Mike. Whenever I even start to get a cold, I do up 5-6 full grams a day, and usually it never catches hold of me, as I am 6' tall and about 210, and that's perfect for my size and weight, extrapolate yours accordingly. It's good for cat allergies too. I use a combo of ascorbic acid and calcium ascorbate to balance the PH, and as a powder it goes straight in, gets absorbed by your body immediately.

You gotta space it out during the day, because it goes thru you completely, every 3 hours.

There are ways to see if you've taken too much, which I would be glad to elaborate on privately if you'd like. If those signs come up, you're not as sick as you thought - which may be immediate or may even take a day or 2 - and you can reign the dosage in a bit.

It works wonders. The Linus Pauling Institute was created around it.


Keep up the good work.

I am referring people here from my thread "Don't Dump your CRT RPTV!" and the 4 AVS threads dedicated to making sure Hitachi RPTVs look their best. I want them to know what the fixed pixel generation is usually missing, out there, and will continue to go without, in the headlong fixed pixel marketing blitz that is presently all but obliterating the CRT genre.

I know you guys have the BEST pix available, and there is a whole HUGE contingent of RPTV lovers out there who love triple-gun CRT just as much, in their own format.

I'm trying to bring them here to learn, from youse guys.



Mr Bob
post #399 of 5478
Trying to take quality pics of a RP is a seemingly impossible task. My pictures look absolutely nothing like what I see on screen. A bit frustrating it is.
post #400 of 5478
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

I apologize if anyone mistook my screenshot comparisons as a G90 pissing contest. (Cliff's stack clearly wins that prize.)

You've done nothing to be apologizing and I for one appreciate seeing your great looking G90 screenshot contributions here!

Theres a lot of eye candy to be seen thats for sure.
post #401 of 5478
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RVonse View Post

You've done nothing to be apologizing and I for one appreciate seeing your great looking G90 screenshot contributions here!

Theres a lot of eye candy to be seen thats for sure.

Clarence IS the screenshot KING.

I learned from the best.

Cliffy
post #402 of 5478
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

I have that movie, but it was still shrinkwrapped...

G90:











Here's mine...



post #403 of 5478
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by M9500LC View Post

Here's mine...




SWEET.

Cliffy

P.S. I cant wait until I see shots from Art's setup.
post #404 of 5478
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Originally Posted by NautikaL View Post

Good . I'm learning a lot from this thread...we should continue! Let's not let our feelings get in the way .

What war? I posted a few and nobody even took the time to say they sucked! Some times I think I am invisible here.
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post #407 of 5478
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post








You TOOL. I thought you were done posting screen shots?

Damnit. Now I have to yank out the big guns.

Cliffy
post #408 of 5478
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post


My favorite one. Glad that you decided to post more shots!
post #409 of 5478
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by NautikaL View Post

My favorite one. Glad that you decided to post more shots!

Yes, that is most excellent. Here is mine.



The one thing that I like most about both shots is the "lack" of ANSI. :^)

Cliffy
post #410 of 5478
What player is on that on Cliff?
post #411 of 5478
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Originally Posted by overclkr View Post

You TOOL. I thought you were done posting screen shots?


Cliffy

These are the ones I said earlier that I would post. Now I'm out of ammo!
post #412 of 5478
There are so many screenshots in this topic that I don't even remember if this picture was posted here. But here you go: 1080p from the "Vertical Limit" BD Disc:

post #413 of 5478
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Originally Posted by spotmatic View Post

There are so many screenshots in this topic that I don't even remember if this picture was posted here. But here you go: 1080p from the "Vertical Limit" BD Disc:


There ya go.. You're doing much better with this one. The fleshtones in this one is good, though you still need work with your color balance. The potential is truly there for a really fantastic image.

Get you a color meter. Even one of the cheap mickey-mouse ones would make things much much better. I'm using a color comparator.
post #414 of 5478
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Originally Posted by Mr Bob View Post

Vitamin C, Mike. Whenever I even start to get a cold, I do up 5-6 full grams a day, and usually it never catches hold of me, as I am 6' tall and about 210, and that's perfect for my size and weight, extrapolate yours accordingly. It's good for cat allergies too. I use a combo of ascorbic acid and calcium ascorbate to balance the PH, and as a powder it goes straight in, gets absorbed by your body immediately.

You gotta space it out during the day, because it goes thru you completely, every 3 hours.

There are ways to see if you've taken too much, which I would be glad to elaborate on privately if you'd like. If those signs come up, you're not as sick as you thought - which may be immediate or may even take a day or 2 - and you can reign the dosage in a bit.

It works wonders. The Linus Pauling Institute was created around it.

Mr Bob

Thanks so much for this, I'll give it a try. I'm open for anything that's not on the pharmacist list. I have few scripts (prescriptions) for allergies that are in a pill form, but they have some seriously wild side effects, that I prefer to not take them at all.

I'm super sensitive to mold. I've been that way since being exposed to high concentrations of mold (some very toxic) in my house a few years ago. From that experience, I walked away well, much to the prognosis at the medical center. They had expected me to be on steroids and other meds for ever. But that was not he case. Everything cleared up after a year, with me only having a problem with allergies. I've never had a problem in my life before the mold incidence with allergies. Now I'm super sensitive to allergies. But what's really strange, I'm only allergic to mold..

Trees, cats, dogs, fur, pollen, etc, none of that other stuff bothers me. It's only mold.

The summer hot months are the worse, because there's mold everywhere to some degree. And when it rains for days followed by hot sun and humid nights, that multiplies the mold levels. When that happens, it's best for me to stay indoors. If I go anywhere (even in some residences), where there's higher concentrations of the stuff, it causes my throat to irritate and can cause a sore throat. I don't take anything for that, because I'm not for reaching for pills for every pain. Plus it seems to go away in a day or so once I'm removed from that environment.

The problem is, at times it does not go away in a day or so. And when that happens, it usually leads to inflammation of the sinus and later followed by bronchitis. Most of the time, they will go way them selves, but when they don't. It's hell!

I keep various scripts as refills at the pharmacy. Right now after one week of waiting it out. I started the Amoxicillin on Monday. That will be followed by Flonase and Pulmicort today.

I've been using Colloidal Silver, and now something called "Wellness Shots" - which is a small spray bottle that you put 6 squirts in your mouth each day. It too has the colloidal silver in it. It works quite well, I'll have to be careful with anything, and make sure I nip this before I'll be needing the steroid shots again. My goal with this, is to avoid needing the shots again. And In the past two years, I've not had to go that far.

So thanks again for this jewel of advice. I'll give it a try. It's hell being in pain so bad that your sinuses make you have a tooth ache, and your chest stays on fire. and your sleep comes in two to three hour periods, and that goes on all day long.

Hey, considering how things were over two years ago, I'm way better off now with these things that can be solved quite easily..
post #415 of 5478
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post


So thanks again for this jewel of advice. I'll give it a try. It's hell being in pain so bad that your sinuses make you have a tooth ache, and your chest stays on fire. and your sleep comes in two to three hour periods, and that goes on all day long.

Hey, considering how things were over two years ago, I'm way better off now with these things that can be solved quite easily..

Damn, you got it bad, dude!

I was not allergic to anything until I spent almost a year in Colorado and then went back to Oregon, where I grew up. From then on I was allergic to a lot of the common things, which I never noticed before. Guess the Colo air was cleaner than I had even heard of.

My gf is athsmatic, and once when we visited Vegas the smoke she had to endure was so bad it caused her to eventually get a scrip from Kaiser for prednosone, which as you know can have domino effect side effects. We haven't been back to Vegas together since because of that, tho now the anti-smoking craze has finally gone farther than CA and many hotels in Vegas are taking up the banner.

There's a thing called Airborne that was created by a schoolteacher who was constantly exposed to her kids in class, and it works wonders if you catch what you have early. It's in an Alka-Seltzer type format, which fizzes up in a glass of water and tastes great. Walmart has the same thing a bit cheaper, called WalBorne.

One of its main ingredients - an entire gram of Vitamin C!

Good luck, you won't have to worry about drug interactions with these things.



Mr Bob
post #416 of 5478
I just love these screenshots! This thread just gets better and better.

Guys, this is such good fun!! Much appreciated

Paul
post #417 of 5478
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by NautikaL View Post

What player is on that on Cliff?

Jeff, that was actually if I'm not mistaken taken from my PS3. It was a downloaded 1080P trailer of 300.

Cliff
post #418 of 5478
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Originally Posted by Mr Bob View Post

There's a thing called Airborne that was created by a schoolteacher who was constantly exposed to her kids in class, and it works wonders if you catch what you have early. It's in an Alka-Seltzer type format, which fizzes up in a glass of water and tastes great. Walmart has the same thing a bit cheaper, called WalBorne.

One of its main ingredients - an entire gram of Vitamin C!

Good luck, you won't have to worry about drug interactions with these things.



Mr Bob

You shouldn't have more than 2 tablets per day due to its high amount of vitamin A. Also, there have been no studies to show that Airborne is effective...placebo effect anyone? Finally, Airborne is very expensive at ~75 cents per tablet. The box recommends you take airborne every 3 hours so this would lead to ~2.25$ per day.

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Originally Posted by wikipedia View Post

However, Airborne's 5,000 IUs of vitamin A per serving has become another major health concern. The recommended safe upper limit for vitamin A is 10,000 IUs daily.[9] This amount is easily exceeded when following Airborne's directions, as it is stated on the packaging, to "repeat every three hours as necessary"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborn...ry_supplement)

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Originally Posted by overclkr View Post

Jeff, that was actually if I'm not mistaken taken from my PS3. It was a downloaded 1080P trailer of 300.

Cliff

Okay thanks. I'm just trying to gauge what everyone in the CRT world is using for blu-ray as I try to get a player myself.
post #419 of 5478
I might have to sneak back onto the battlefield. I got a new toy today... a 10.1 megapixel Canon XTi DSLR:

post #420 of 5478
Wow! It can't possibly be any better than your little $19 digicam!
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