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post #511 of 5446
10/3/07 at 4:40am
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Originally Posted by Mr Bob View Post

Most computer monitors run at D9300, from my experience. The only way all of us are going to be seeing EXACTLY the same thing on these screenshots - at least colorwise - would be for each one of our monitors to be calibrated exactly the same way as each of the others. Either to D9300, computer style, or to D6500 - to be totally accurate - for all of us. And with the accuracy we depend on in our calibrations.

Most computer monitors seem to give much more accuracy to D9300 than they do to D6500, tho I must confess that I have not seen many monitors running at D6500 at all.

So a lot of us are depending on the fidelity of our monitors to ATTEMPT to see the same thing as the others.


That said, I too can see the differences y'all are talking about. On my PC monitor, the reference looks - well - not real faithful to my memory of the movie, let's put it that way.

Clarence's initial shots seem more true to the original, all except for the dreads, which I agree need to show more.

But I would have to be watching something on my calibrated display and compare the same thing to my pc monitor, to know for sure -


Mr Bob

I am checking this thread at work on a different monitor...different story altogether. Makes me wonder how this "war" is gonna work now...hmmm.
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post #512 of 5446
10/3/07 at 4:51am
I have been running my monitor at D6500 for the past couple of years
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post #513 of 5446
10/3/07 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

Can you see all the distinct shades?

(grayscale image credit to dpreview.com)

Here's another good webpage for assessing your monitor:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS.../CALIBRATE.HTM
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post #514 of 5446
10/3/07 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

The White Balance is still different (the original seems to have a yellow haze to it).

I also tried various ISO and Av settings, but on a tripod, the end results look the same, especially when reduced to web size. If I double the ISO (e.g. 400 to 800) and half the exposure time (e.g. 1/2 sec to 1/4 sec), the resulting screenshots are pretty much the same.

Your best shot will be to use the camera's white balance set mode. Project a 100% white image from your favorite calibration disc, fill the viewfinder with it, set the camera for white balance set mode, and use that setting for future screen shots.
As a minor point, higher ASA settings introduce more noise, so you'd be better off shooting at ASA 100.
Fun though, isn't it?
Good luck.
Michael
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post #515 of 5446
10/3/07 at 8:21am
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Hmmmm..... Looks like it's time to fire up the G90's tonight.......

Me loves screenshots.
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post #516 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

Here's another good webpage for assessing your monitor:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS.../CALIBRATE.HTM

Is this good, I just found it in google.

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post #517 of 5446
10/3/07 at 11:28am
Here's the original frame from the HD DVD:


Screenshot, 9' wide, G90, 1080P PS3:


Not bad, but the color of the sky is off. And I'm missing some yellow in his skin.

I'll play with the camera's white balance settings tonight.
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post #518 of 5446
10/3/07 at 12:20pm
"Starship Troopers":

Original frame from Blu-ray:
1920x1080: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post11250053


screenshot with autobalance (AWB), 9' wide, G90, 1080P PS3:


screenshot with manual white balance set from white screen:


Better, but still missing some yellow.
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post #519 of 5446
10/3/07 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Clarence View Post

Better, but still missing some yellow.

I trust you remembered to turn the other settings back to zero.
Nice start, though. And I admire your persistence, as well.
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post #520 of 5446
10/3/07 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by Mr Bob View Post

But I would have to be watching something on my calibrated display and compare the same thing to my pc monitor, to know for sure -
Mr Bob

So if I use Spyder2Pro, which requires hooking my computer up to the TV, will the calibration be okay when I switch back to DVD (both using HDMI)?
Or will it just be good for calibrating my computer monitor so I can see better here?
Michael
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post #521 of 5446
10/3/07 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

And I admire your persistence, as well.

It's a fun way to learn most of the settings in the new camera I got last week.

Mark Haflich and Phil Smith were begging for more screenshots in another thread, so these are for them...

I redid the white screen manual white balance... I must've messed it up the first time, because this time I got a new message that told me to change to the buffered custom WB setting.

Plus, I got a new lens this afternoon...



original from HD DVD:

screenshot:


Original from blu-ray:

screenshot:


Original:

screenshot:
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post #522 of 5446
10/3/07 at 4:22pm
Original from HD DVD:

screenshot:

9882 hours on these tubes:
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post #523 of 5446
10/3/07 at 6:33pm
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Some practice shots:

























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post #524 of 5446
10/3/07 at 6:34pm
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Cliffy
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post #525 of 5446
10/3/07 at 6:34pm
Amazing back ground detail on the lady in the wet white dress. Are these shots from the 5th Element too?
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post #526 of 5446
10/3/07 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

Amazing back ground detail on the lady in the wet white dress. Are these shots from the 5th Element too?

You bastard. Dont even bother to tell me how nice my shots look.

Cliffy
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post #527 of 5446
10/3/07 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by overclkr View Post

You bastard. Dont even bother to tell me how nice my shots look.

Cliffy

My compliments shall have to suffice .

I really like the shot with the jail bars. The reflections contrast nicely with the inky black bars. But it looks like there's some lower IRE detail missing in the dreadlocks. G90s must not like dreadlocks or something . Sorry, I think I'm obsessed with shadow detail for some reason...
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post #528 of 5446
10/3/07 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by NautikaL View Post

My compliments shall have to suffice .

I really like the shot with the jail bars. The reflections contrast nicely with the inky black bars. But it looks like there's some lower IRE detail missing in the dreadlocks. G90s must not like dreadlocks or something . Sorry, I think I'm obsessed with shadow detail for some reason...

LOL. Yeah, you would think looking at that shot that there should be something in his noggin' but I took 4 shots at 2 different modes and there is nothing to speak of on shadow detail for his head on that frame.

Kind of like this shot taken from the RS1, no shadow detail in his head either.



Cliffy
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post #529 of 5446
10/3/07 at 8:57pm
I'm bac!









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post #530 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:01pm






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post #531 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by mp20748 View Post


Very nice!

Hmmm... Mike, I think a shot of The Day After Tomorrow with some snow falling would look show off detail?
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post #532 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:10pm
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Sim2 HT5000:



G90 Stack:



This is EXTREMELY preliminary. This is NOT the same frame but you get the jist.

Cliffy
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post #533 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:13pm
Wow...those are almost identical! (color wise)
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post #534 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:22pm
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Second Round:

HT 5000:



G90 Stack:



Not quite there yet I dont think. Must keep going........

At any rate, you see how much SHARPER DLP is over CRT.

I'm done for tonight. Must move to the bed. Must work tomorrow........

Cliffy
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post #535 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:42pm
Cliffy. Amazing screen shots. I can't believe my eyes. The Red Sea parting pales in comparison. Great sex can't hold a candle to looking at screen shots. I'll never watch
anything moving again. Just screen shots for me.

Actually when I looked all those shots, the only thing I saw was the detail behind the wet white dress of that lady. But I thought the chick in the 5th element didn't have knockers like that and I thought she was a red head. Could your colors be off?
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post #536 of 5446
10/3/07 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

Cliffy. Amazing screen shots. I can't believe my eyes. The Red Sea parting pales in comparison. Great sex can't hold a candle to looking at screen shots. I'll never watch
anything moving again. Just screen shots for me.

Actually when I looked all those shots, the only thing I saw was the detail behind the wet white dress of that lady. But I thought the chick in the 5th element didn't have knockers like that and I thought she was a red head. Could your colors be off?

Oh hell yeah, I'm ALL ABOUT THE BOOBS.

Especially the NIPPLE! It's a man's natural habitat, whether it be BABY or ADULT.

Cliffy
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post #537 of 5446
10/3/07 at 10:39pm
Well i finally got off my arse and moved my second PJ into the theater and tried a floor ceiling stack with my Marquee's. A lot more work than i thought!!!
well it was going to be temporary but after seeing the difference in Brightness I think i am going to figure out away to keep it till i can move to a blend.

One Marqee. ISO 400 fuji Finpix F10 for both pix





2 marquees




This was a quick set up and really didnt do ploper set up of the floor marqee. But the one thing i noticed is how much more 3D the image looked I never knew how much shadow detail can improve the depth of an image!!!


Athanasios
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post #538 of 5446
10/3/07 at 11:18pm
With this screen shot fixation, some of those taking pictures here will have better cameras than their projectors. Yuk. Yuk.
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post #539 of 5446
10/4/07 at 3:51am
Taking the system down for a few days or weeks. So I'll do my last shots for now.

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1080P on my lowly 8500



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post #540 of 5446
10/4/07 at 3:59am
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