Samsung BDP1400 Disussion Thread - Page 65

Thanks for the info. I thought I did that...perhaps my burning software is no good? Samsung recommends Nero. I have no idea what mine is.

Thanks

The file you get from the web (the .iso file) is an image of the CD, not a file that goes on the CD. If you can examine the contents of the CD and see that .iso file on it, you didn't burn correctly. You need to find the "burn image" or similar functionality in your burning software and use that.

If you burned successfully, the resulting CD when examined will have a single file in it, whose name ends with .RUF.

Just finished Die Hard 4. Froze up only once 3-4 minutes into the movie for like 2-3 sec. Also, pop-up menu lags like crazy. Java my ass...

Getting fed up with this not so ready technology. Blu-ray really isn't ready and were paying for it. HD DVD seems to me as the best choice. Already own the 360 add-on and like it a lot. I'll probably get the A35 and throw the 1400 out the door.

Die Hard looks and sounds very good. DTS-HD Master really rocks through my AVR-3808.

Loading time is a pain... 1 min 30 sec... Unacceptable to me.

In 20 days I'm returning the 1400. I'll wait for the Sammy 5000 reviews and if it looks good, that's what I'll buy. On paper the 5000 is pretty sweet!


(FW 1.2, 1080i, bitstream to denon 3808)

Geeze with all these issues that the 1400 is having is there a more reliable/better player out there now or coming that will have 5.1 analog outs with the ability to deconde most if note all codec?

I was hoping for this to be my first Blu Ray player. I currently have the Toshiba XA2 and for the most part it has worked very well.

This is a Samsung issue in the way the 1400 does not stay in the pause mode for over 5 minutes. This is one of the reasons I returned the 1400. I have the BD30 now and BR discs (SD as well) stay in the pause mode for as long as want them to. If you go back in this thread a few pages there is much discussion on the pause issue.

Bill

Gary,

Get the BD30 I think you would be quite happy with it, I know I am. It would work very well with your 885 IMO. I really did not have the patience for the 1400 and all its issues.

Bill

I have had both formats since day 1 and would say that everything considered, BD is more ready for primetime than HD, the problem is the Samsung

I have owned quite a few players from both sides and when comparing all the issues so far combined with BD vs HD it isn't even near to close in favor of BD

that said, Java is the biggest joke of either format so far, it is pathetic at best

when I know a disc has java content I seriously give it a second thought before purchasing

just don't be looking to HD-DVD for a problem free experience

-Gary

thanks Bill, the only problem is the 510$ I have in the Sammy

-Gary

I just picked up one of these and notice that it loads kinda slow. The production date on mine is August 2007. Should I look for one that has a later production date or does it not make a difference?

This 1.2 firmware is a total disaster. My player worked more or less fine, bar the occasional little picture hang. Now I have audio drop-outs, picture freezes, black screens.... how incompetent can those people get. This player is getting worse with each firmware update!!!!

Greetings,

I burned the FW to CD as per the instructions and when I load it into the player the main menu comes up and the player sees the disc as a standard CD.

After burning the image it does contain the .RUF file.

Thoughts/suggestions?

I am currently running the September FW and did not load the October release.


Regards,

Thanks for all the suggestions. I appreciate it.

I updated mine last night to the latest firmware.
I've only had very minor problems with the previous patch (2-3 minor stutters in Ratatouille).

After the update, I tried a few scenes of Ratatouille. It was a pixellated mess every few minutes or so accompanied with a micro audio stutter. I don't know if its because I was chapter surfing Rat or not, I'll just try playing the full movie tonight.

Greetings,


Disregard...I powered the player off and back on and was able to then do the update.

I have to admit that I am annoyed that I now have the 24 fps stutter which occurs intermittently. I purposely did not upgrade to the October FW for that reason. I am using an Anthem AVM-50 pre/pro which does not internally decode TrueHD/DTS HD so there was no reason to upgrade in October as I was having no problems.

Prior to this I have had zero playback issues with the 1400. It really is a pain in the ass that Samsung does not fully test their FW releases. It is evident that they address one thing and break another.

Die hard 4 loaded pretty quickly and the first few minutes seemed to play ok.

Regards,

Hi everyone,

I just bought the Samsung BDP1400(exchanged the Toshiba HD-A3 player) yesterday at CC for an excellent price.I hooked it up and watched Die Hard 4.The picture on my 42" LCD 1080p TV was excellent and the sound from my HT system was also excellent.But the player stopped twice during the movie but pressing the play button the movie resumed again.

Keep in mind that there is a gray marker button at the bottom left side of the remote which you can mark the place where you want to stop the movie for an extended time.Press it then hit stop and when you want to resume the movie again just hit play on the remote.Others mentioned the low time problem when hitting just the pause button so the marker button is an option to use.

It took a while to download and burn the F/W 1.2 to a CD but updated the player after watching the movie so I don't know if the problem will still be present.

I've had no issues whatsoever with HD DVD. I only used the 360 add-on but everything plays flawlessly. Problem is no advanced audio with the 360... Anyways, the 1400 is out and I'll take a look at the panny BD-30.

Good luck 1400 owners!

Which company is that? Can you provide me with a link to their site?

Go back in to setup and verify audio settings as the FW update will reset them. Try both Bistream and PCM and see if it makes a difference. You can downgrade the FW if u need too.

Cheers,

Ray

Just in case, try resetting the player (hold the >>| key on front panel until the set language screen appears). I do this every time I upgrade the firmware an never had additional problems.

Anyone?

Though both formats have had their issues (I wouldn't say either is better or worse then the other and I own 4 HD and 3 Blu players) the new rules almost make this format cheerleading since you are in the Blu-ray Players forum discussing the benefits of HD-DVD.

That being said I really wish Samsung didn't netflix the newly released titles to check for compatibility. I have no idea why they can't get these earlier. Seems that Sony has no issues getting the pre-release disks from the studios since the 2 week wait after the Pirates Liar's Dice fiasco on their 1 gen player.

Those are my thoughts exactly with this player!!! It is very glitchy. I don't have experience with any other unit so I am not going to say Blu Ray is not ready yet. But could not agree more with you about the BS glitches.

Please post about your firmware update when done. I was trying to install it via CD and nothing happened. It said please leave disc drive empty when upgrading, so I am very curious to find someone that it works for. Did you try to use the LAN for an update first??? Cause it didn't connect for me that way either.

Here you go some info I leached from highdefdigest

DTS-HD High Resolution
What it is: Similar to Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD High Resolution is an enhancement over standard DTS that offers higher bit rates and better compression. DTS-HD HR is also encoded as an extension to a "core" DTS track. (Note that DTS-HD HR is sometimes referred to as just "DTS-HD", which can be confusing and possibly misleading).
Level of support: Since this codec is also optional on Blu-ray, many players will only extract the 1509 kb/s DTS core and ignore the extension.
Examples of discs that use it: 'Basic Instinct', 'Total Recall'.
How to get it:


Toslink or Coaxial SPDIF - Because SPDIF cannot transmit a full DTS-HD HR signal, the player will extract the DTS core and send the bitstream for that instead.
HDMI - If the player does not support DTS-HD HR, it will extract the DTS core, replicating the DTS listing above. Some players may decode the DTS-HD HR to PCM and transmit it over any version of HDMI. Other players will instead transmit the DTS-HD HR bitstream to a receiver for decoding (this requires HDMI 1.3).
Multi-channel analog - Either the Blu-ray player will extract and decode the DTS core, or (on some models) will decode the full DTS-HD HR and convert it to analog.

DTS-HD Master Audio
What it is: Another lossless audio codec similar to Dolby TrueHD. The difference between the two is that DTS-HD MA is built in a core+extension configuration (just like DTS-HD HR). Although a DTS-HD MA track takes up more disc space than a TrueHD track, it does not require a secondary standard track for backwards compatibility. Since both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD are lossless, they are both 100% identical in quality to the studio master, and hence identical in quality to each other.
Level of support: Like DTS-HD HR, Master Audio is optional on the Blu-ray format. If the player does not support DTS-HD MA, it can extract the standard DTS core.
Examples of discs that use it: Almost all titles from Fox Home Entertainment.
How to get it:


Toslink or Coaxial SPDIF - SPDIF cannot carry a DTS-HD MA signal. When using this connection type, the player will extract the standard DTS core instead and transmit that as a bitstream.
HDMI - If the player does not support DTS-HD MA, it will extract the DTS core. Some players may decode the DTS-HD MA to PCM and transmit it over any version of HDMI. Other players will instead transmit the DTS-HD MA bitstream to a receiver for decoding (HDMI 1.3 required).
Multi-channel analog - Either the Blu-ray player will decode the standard DTS core, or (on some models) will decode the DTS-HD MA and convert it to analog.



At the time of this writing, only one Blu-ray disc player (the Samsung BD-P1400) supports the transmission of a DTS-HD Master Audio bitstream over HDMI 1.3. No current Blu-ray disc players will yet decode the DTS-HD MA track to PCM internally. All other players are limited to extraction of the standard DTS core. This situation is expected to change in the near future as more player models are released, and manufacturers issue firmware updates to existing players.


Dolby TrueHD
What it is: Dolby TrueHD is a "lossless" compression codec. Although it is compressed to take up less disc space than a PCM track, once decoded it is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master (at either 16-bit or 24-bit resolution, at the discretion of the studio). It may help to think of it like a ZIP file that holds a PCM track. Once you unZIP the file, you get a 100% identical copy of the original PCM, without compromising any sound quality.
Level of support: TrueHD is an optional format on Blu-ray. And since TrueHD is not built in a core+extension configuration, Blu-ray discs that contain a TrueHD track are also required to contain a standard Dolby Digital AC-3 track for compatibility with players that don't support TrueHD.
Examples of discs that use it: 'Ghost Rider', 'The Fifth Element' (Remastered).
How to get it:


Toslink or Coaxial SPDIF - SPDIF cannot carry a TrueHD signal. If using this connection type, the player will automatically revert to playing back the standard Dolby Digital AC-3 track instead.
HDMI - If the player does not support TrueHD, it will revert to the standard Dolby Digital track. Some players may decode the TrueHD to PCM and transmit it over any version of HDMI. Other players will instead transmit the TrueHD bitstream to a receiver for decoding (HDMI 1.3 required).
Multi-channel analog - Either the Blu-ray player will decode the standard Dolby Digital track, or (on some models) will decode the TrueHD and convert it to analog.


Cheers,

Ray

I can't believe I'm now stuck with this player. I have learned two lessons:
1. Don't cut the barcode off the box to send in for the movies until you are absolutely sure the player is decent.
2. If the player is not working right in the first three weeks don't chance it based on it will be fixed later and just send the unit back and look elsewhere.

I'm not buying another player until there is one that will play movies like it's supposed too. I don't ever see this player getting fixed 100% before Samsung just abandons it and moves on to a newer model. This form of release it now fix it later has been prevalent in the computer industry for years. Now it's spreading into consoles and other home electronics. It's getting absolutely ridiculous when a simple machine can't even play movies without needing some kind of patch or firmware update.

Sorry for the rant but I'm just really pissed. This has to be the absolutely worst piece of electronic equipment I have ever purchased.

amazon for one will take returns with UPC code removed, I checked with them as I plan to return this player for the Panny

I have no doubt Samsung will fix the current issues (they always have on my BD-P1000) but I am afraid that as more "Advanced Authored" titles come out these issues are going to happen more and more. I hate watching movies on my PS3 but I might have to go back to that for a while until there is a final profile player that does everything I want it to do (internal audio decoding, 24p, less buggy Java). I don't have a problem with applying firmware updates as long as they are released by the time I am ready to watch the movie. It seems that Toshiba and Sony are the only ones that do this on a consistant basis nowadays.

I agree with you 100%. It's got to a point where I now have to check AVS daily to see what movies will or will not work before I buy them. No more buy on Tuesday and play on Tuesday/Wednesday for me, at least with Blu-ray. I'm now paranoid of movie freezing or audio dropping out in the middle of the action which totally ruins the experience for me. You will think that with Blu-ray being out for a year that you start seeing improvement. But I see the opposite and believe me things don't look any better. Wait until movies start coming out with Bonus View & BD-Live features.

Say/think what you want but my experiences with HD-DVD has been much better. With HD-DVD I don't worry if the movie I buy will work or not. All movies that I've played loads in less than 30 seconds. Never had any freezing, picture stuttering and/or audio drop out issue. All this with a player that costs me half as much (and now can be had for less) than any brand new Blu-ray player.

If I had more confidence that Blu-ray will win (trust me I want Blu to win) and there weren't any pending profiles changes I would seriously consider taking a loss in dumping the 1400 and get the new Panasonic. Even then I just don't feel confident that Blu-ray is ever going to be stable as DVD with it using a flexiable programing language like Java.

I agree with Gary. I've had an XA-1 for over a year and wish I had a nickel for every stutter, pause, and freeze. To be honest, until recently, these only have happened with combo discs like Superman Returns and 300. My copy of Transformers has had issues, but it's probably because the disc was pitted in spots right out of the package. I've also had freezes with Shooter. When the XA-1 is working right, it's a beautiful thing. But there are too many times that it has issues.

Frankly, the 1400 has been a better experience for me so far. But I don't yet own any of the discs that others have had problems with except for FF: ROTSS. It loads s-l-o-w-l-y, but runs fine otherwise.