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post #3721 of 12884
Any ideas on when we'll be seeing a new FW update?
post #3722 of 12884
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Originally Posted by LastSonOfKrypton View Post

Any ideas on when we'll be seeing a new FW update?


Come on Samsung!!!
post #3723 of 12884
Congrats Amber on getting those discs. Did you mail in the BB rebate form or the one from checkmyrebate w/the bar coded tracking # ?
post #3724 of 12884
My 1400 , via HDMI, is defaulting to 1080i output. My panel is a 720p Pioneer 1140. Should I change the Sammy to 720p or leave it @1080i ?
post #3725 of 12884
I think someone who spoke w/Tech Support advised that it was "supposed" to be released w/in 30 days or so..that was before Christmas, so who knows??
post #3726 of 12884
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Originally Posted by shadowcaster View Post

My 1400 , via HDMI, is defaulting to 1080i output. My panel is a 720p Pioneer 1140. Should I change the Sammy to 720p or leave it @1080i ?

The answer is display dependent. Try both and see which looks better.
post #3727 of 12884
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Originally Posted by Donnie Eldridge View Post

The answer is display dependent. Try both and see which looks better.

What does that mean Donnie ? As stated, the display is 720p so why is the 1400 defaulting to 1080i. (and will the Pio do a better job of scaling than the 1400?) Diffucult to A/B because of the time delay in changing the setting.
post #3728 of 12884
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Originally Posted by MrTaxMan View Post

I noticed the same thing with 1400 to my Samsung 4671 (although my TV does handle 1080p/60 just fine from the 1400.) This means that even though the 1400 is set to output 1080i/24, it is upscaling to 1080p/24? And it does that because it can 'sense' the TV can handle it? I just noticed this recently and could swear it wasn't doing it a week ago.

Do you suppose they had a time-delayed feature in last month's firmware upgrade that just 'self-enabled'? Kind of like a Terminator machine

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Originally Posted by tai4de2 View Post

There's no circumstance under which the player outputs 1080i/24. If you have 24p turned on, the distinction between 1080i and 1080p as the resolution setting becomes irrelevant if the disc is encoded at 24fps.

Clarification (I hope): I wasn't saying that the sammy outputs 1080i/24fps. I was saying that to get 1080p displayed on my pioneer 6070, I have to select 1080i, them 24fps - on ). Only then will the pioneer display 1080p (the pio will show you what the incoming resolution is). If I understand correctly, the pio will not display 24fps. Therefore it must be displaying 1080p/60fps. Is it possible that something is amiss in my sammy's little display resolution selector brain?
Sooo...Again - such weirdness.
None of this bothers me much. Guess I have too much time (spousal opinion) to mess with this stuff, and enjoy checking all the possibilities.

steveok
post #3729 of 12884
Basic question here:
It seems that the general consensus is to keep speaker settings on the Sammy set to "small" no matter how big the fronts are. What is the logic behind this?? Just to send more bass to the sub (LFE)? If that's the reason then why not just set the crossover on the system higher so more bass gets transferred? I've set my fronts to large and small on the Sammy and I really can't tell any difference. Just wondering if I should keep them set on small or large. Thanks in advance for the information.
post #3730 of 12884
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Originally Posted by Amber O'Doul View Post

If you have a disc that "won't load", are you waiting the full 90+ seconds that LFoDH requires to load ?

Maybe I didn't wait long enough... If "Fantastic Four" would have loaded, then I would think that might be the problem...

Does that movie take that long to load as well??
post #3731 of 12884
^just for reference, since I did the firmware upgrade, which fixed LFODH, I've never had a disk take more than 10 seconds to load up and start on this player
post #3732 of 12884
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Originally Posted by telecustom View Post

^just for reference, since I did the firmware upgrade, which fixed LFODH, I've never had a disk take more than 10 seconds to load up and start on this player

Which firmware upgrade did you do? What current firmware do you have in your player?
post #3733 of 12884
One audio setup query :-

I am using Onkyo 304 with Sammy 1400, right now I am having optical cable for audio output and the sound is great with DTS showing on display pannel; I kept this one on bit stream but when I turned this to PCM the audio was very low and also only PCM but no DTS on display. With bitstream audio level of 25 was louder than 40 with PCM.

When I connected analog outputs from Sammy to Onkyo, it showed PCM but no DTS on display and also the audio was low in hearing very similar to PCM with optical cable.

So I am wondering is there anyway that I could improve the quality of sound ? I am happy with bitstream on optical but I didn't want to loose if I could be better. My receiver can't decode DTS-HDMA but it can certainly go up to DTS.

Any thoughts here ?
post #3734 of 12884
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Originally Posted by isingh View Post

One audio setup query :-

I am using Onkyo 304 with Sammy 1400, right now I am having optical cable for audio output and the sound is great with DTS showing on display pannel; I kept this one on bit stream but when I turned this to PCM the audio was very low and also only PCM but no DTS on display. With bitstream audio level of 25 was louder than 40 with PCM.

When I connected analog outputs from Sammy to Onkyo, it showed PCM but no DTS on display and also the audio was low in hearing very similar to PCM with optical cable.

So I am wondering is there anyway that I could improve the quality of sound ? I am happy with bitstream on optical but I didn't want to loose if I could be better. My receiver can't decode DTS-HDMA but it can certainly go up to DTS.

Any thoughts here ?

Your associating sound quality with sound volume. They are not the same. For the best quality audio with your Onkyo use the analog inputs.
post #3735 of 12884
On mine, LFoDH is definitely the longest to load. It is consistently ~90 sec. I have tested it a few times. It always plays flawlessly after loading, though. This is with the latest ver. 1.2 firmware.
post #3736 of 12884
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Originally Posted by Donnie Eldridge View Post

Your associating sound quality with sound volume. They are not the same. For the best quality audio with your Onkyo use the analog inputs.

So is there anyway I can kick up the audio level also, anything I need to do in Sammy config ? Why do people need to change Speaker setting in Sammy ? I hope that has nothing to do here when I am using Analog outputs? And if it has then why does PCM on optical is lower in intensity as opposed to bitstream ?

I am conffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuseddddddddddd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #3737 of 12884
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Originally Posted by shadowcaster View Post

What does that mean Donnie ? As stated, the display is 720p so why is the 1400 defaulting to 1080i. (and will the Pio do a better job of scaling than the 1400?) Diffucult to A/B because of the time delay in changing the setting.

Most 720p displays or projectors will accept a 1080i signal. The question is whether your display deinterlaces better than the Samsung. In my case (panny900 projector), it does, and the image was clearly superior with 1080i. As for a/b testing, try MI III. It allows you to resume from stop, so it only took me about 10 seconds to switch between settings.
post #3738 of 12884
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Originally Posted by telecustom View Post

Basic question here:
It seems that the general consensus is to keep speaker settings on the Sammy set to "small" no matter how big the fronts are. What is the logic behind this?? Just to send more bass to the sub (LFE)? If that's the reason then why not just set the crossover on the system higher so more bass gets transferred? I've set my fronts to large and small on the Sammy and I really can't tell any difference. Just wondering if I should keep them set on small or large. Thanks in advance for the information.

First, the small/large settings are only designed for use with analog connections. I know that on the 1400 the settings appear to cause changes even when using a digital connection, but this is an error, not an intended effect.
So if you are using analog 5.1 connections, many receivers will not apply bass management to this connection. However, if your system allows you to set a crossover point for your 5.1 analog inputs then no, there is no difference between setting the crossover on the samsung or on your receiver.
Most people set their speakers to "small" with 5.1 analog because they aren't using full range speakers (and therefore need to choose small) or they don't want to stress their full range speakers with the huge amounts of low frequency info contained in most modern movies (and therefore want to choose small).
I run my fronts full range because my limited budget doesn't allow me a subwoofer that delivers the 40-100hz signals as musically and tightly as my main speakers do. I also turn my sub off during the week so as to not piss off the neighbors and keeping the speakers large means less things to remember.
post #3739 of 12884
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Maybe I didn't wait long enough... If "Fantastic Four" would have loaded, then I would think that might be the problem...

Does that movie take that long to load as well??

Silver Surfer seems to take forever to load with the original fw, but plays perfectly after loaded.
post #3740 of 12884
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Originally Posted by Amber O'Doul View Post

--snip--
Other news: My three free Samsung Discs came today !
Almost exactly one month after sending the coupon in.

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Originally Posted by shadowcaster View Post

Congrats Amber on getting those discs. Did you mail in the BB rebate form or the one from checkmyrebate w/the bar coded tracking # ?

My 3-from-Samsung just got here today! I sent in the form (downloaded from the web) just before Christmas... now I wonder where the 5-from-BDA are???
post #3741 of 12884
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

My 3-from-Samsung just got here today! I sent in the form (downloaded from the web) just before Christmas... now I wonder where the 5-from-BDA are???

Does Samsung still have the free movie offer or is it only the BDA one now?
post #3742 of 12884
Regarding Samsung 1400 video drop-out issues:

I've now played four Blu-Ray movies through in their entirety:

- Pan's Labyrinth
- Spiderman 3
- Ratatouille
- Meet the Robinsons

I have had no playback issues with the first two, and an occasional playback issues with the last two. In Meet the Robinsons, the video drops out four times; in Ratatouille twice. This is with the player set to 1080i output, which matches my display.

When I force the output to 480i or 480p, I get no video drops or quirks. In 720p mode, the video does not drop, but in the locations where the drops occur in 1080i mode, I instead see visual mangling. By that, I mean the image goes black with a thick green vertical bar near the center for a moment before returning to normal.

Since 480[i/p] modes can actually read the data off the disc without any trouble, this would seem to suggest strongly that the player is at fault. I suppose I'll try for an exchange and see if it goes any better next time.

Hopefully this information is useful to someone

Kevin
post #3743 of 12884
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Originally Posted by TNO821 View Post

Really? I've only had problems with Live Free or Die Hard and Sunshine. And I've played a lot of BD's in this thing. I find firmware 1.0 to be the most stable (though I don't have The Simpsons movie so I've got no idea if it will play...seems like Fox titles aren't always great in the 1400).

What settings and firmware are affected people using?

My always-flawless-except-for-LFoDH settings are:
firmware 1.0, AKA 070903.01_XAA

So Sunshine played flawlessly for me today (well, the ending had some flaws...but you know what I mean). I'm using what I've been calling FW 1.0. But then I reread your post and discovered that our FW 1.0s have different build dates. Mine is 070809.01_XAA . With this firmware, I've been able to play every disc I've tried (including Sunshine, all 3 POTC, all 3 Spiderman, Simpsons movie) without a single audio or video dropout. Now Sunshine did take longer (by far) than any disc I've ever tried and it did go to "slideshow" for a minute before it began playing, but it did play.
So for those of you trying to figure out why some of us have no problems and others have nothing but... you might check what FW you started with.
post #3744 of 12884
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Originally Posted by TNO821 View Post

Yes that is firmware 1.2 and is currently the latest.

So far there have been three updates:

1.0, also called 070903.01_XAA released in September
1.1, also called 071026.01_XAA released in November
1.2, also called 071113.01_XAA released in December

I have found firmware 1.0 to be the best, with the exception that a few titles don't play (so far I've only had Live Free or Die Hard refuse to play).

I don't have any information on when a new firmware will be released, but I would expect to see one within a few weeks.

I just downloaded what I thought was the latest firmware update this past Sunday... but it shows that I have 1.1. If I hook the player back up again, will it download the newer firmware?

Thanks,.
post #3745 of 12884
I have a Samsung 1400 and Pio 94, should I set the audio in my sammy 1400 to PCM or bitstream? I am using HDMI cables.
post #3746 of 12884
I cant tell for sure but I just got off the phone with samsung and they said thay could not send me the firmware update 1.2 they said they were having problems with it they said they are working on it. I said I hope you take care of your customers sooner thay later
post #3747 of 12884
I just hooked the player back up to my modem and it showed that I only had 1.1 firmware loaded onto the player.... 50 minutes later, 1.2 was loaded....

Live Free or Die Hard loaded in about 30 secs! I hope everything is good until the next time...lol
post #3748 of 12884
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Originally Posted by dacbeth View Post

Silver Surfer seems to take forever to load with the original fw, but plays perfectly after loaded.

How is it? I bought the BD movie today (I don't have a BD player yet though).
post #3749 of 12884
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Originally Posted by purple pimpernel View Post

How is it? I bought the BD movie today (I don't have a BD player yet though).

I thought it was okay, certainly not an Oscar winner.
post #3750 of 12884
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Originally Posted by Solarys View Post

I have a Samsung 1400 and Pio 94, should I set the audio in my sammy 1400 to PCM or bitstream? I am using HDMI cables.

100% bitstream.
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