Samsung BDP1400 Disussion Thread - Page 127

Folks:
One reason that the large retail stores (which tend to sell stuff at a discount) are out of the lower cost BD players is because there is a large Blu-Ray public relations push to declare Blu-Ray the "winner" of the format war. This is now a rumor on the scale of an urban legend (probably with just about as much "real" evidence). HD players bought for Christmas are being returned in huge numbers to the retailers and lower cost BD players are flying off the shelves...

I don't know why Barney and others are having problems with SD DVDs on the 1400. Although I mostly play BD discs, I have played quite a few (~15) SD discs and they look spectacular, much better than my Oppo.

Being new to the rebate game, I failed to make copies of everything before sending on to the BDA for the 5 free offer. That won't happen again. However, I didn't know about the Samsung 2 free offer, so...if anyone has a scan of the barcode from the box they could send my way, I would greatly appreciate it.

Apologies if this is the wrong forum to post such a request.

Coop

+1x10^6!

Too late. Had to be sent in pre-12/31/07

Which is ridiculous, when you think on it. My A35 still has great picture & sound, and the HD-DVDs that exist won't die (in my lifetime, anyway). I'm still happily PURPLE with the A35 & BD-P1400

I've played about 10+ SD DVD + 5+ SD DVD-R (home movies), not a single glitch.

The player had to be purchased prior to 12/31/07, which it was. The rebate has until 1/31/08 however to be mailed. I'd just take a picture of the barcode on a box in the store where purchased, but they are totally sold-out of this model, as are all other retailers I've stopped by to check.

Coop

I have also seen various manufacturers offer free blu players with puchase of their flat panels (Panasonic, Sharp, and Sony too I think). The stand-alone (non ps3) Blu-ray players are going to take a big spike up with these types of promotions.

If this is the first upscaling player you have ever owned, it does a pretty good job (as in my case). In my old dvd player, Revenge of the Sith would have this weird jerky montion during the pan down to the star cruiser in the beginning, now it is silky smooth. Also, no more jaggies when pausing SD dvd's.

Hi all, I noticed reading through some posts here that people mostly have the 8002 or 7002 series marantz, does anyone have the sr5002 and got it to work with HDMI using lossless audio or LPCM. TIA

Sorry, my copy of the form says 12/31/07, I guess they updated the form after I used it. I no longer have my UPC... shipped it in for the 5-free.

Yea, you guys are probably right. I was a little bit too hard on the 1400 . I'm a movie buff, and I have well over 600 SD DVDs, mostly widescreen of course. There are some truth in the statement, if this is your first or second upscaling DVD player, then the PQ may be just fine. Also if this is your second one, are we so positive that this one, not the 1400, is the best upscaler out there in its class? My point is different players have different levels of capabilities and output. And from my team, Panny EZ47K-starter, Tootsie A2- backup, 1400 -3rd string, and for the 2 Sony's, LG, and JVC, they remained on the practice squad. Even it's a regular season game, why would I send in my 3rd string QB, while my starter and backup are perfectly healthy? Ok, the 1400 is NOT that shotty of player. Just a 3rd QB option on my team. Fair enough?

The justification, IMO, is comparable to... well, given the choice to watch the same program on TV, one is digital SD and the other is digital HD, how many us will choose to watch the digital SD one, even though it's the same program? What is stressed here is not just PQ, but once you have gotten use to a certain level of HD, the slightest difference is exaggerated in your perception of things. Maybe there are some truth to this? Maybe not? For me, the SD channels are gone, replaced by same channel HD. Won't rent VCR when the DVD is all out of the same title. Won't buy 4x3 DVD if widescreen exists. Less likely to buy DVD if HD boomoos exist.... Conclusion-Barney's spoiled!

Hello all,
I just purchased a Sammy BDP1400 and I noticed that it has inputs for 6 analog channels, I currently have it connected to optical because I thought this was better. But after searching hi and low, most of you here say its better with analog? Why?

Also,
Do I have to change my Sammy to PCM now or can it stay on bitstream? Does it make a difference when using multi channel?

It's simple. If don't have a HDMI receiver, and your choice is only between SPDIF bitstream or 5.1 analog RCA PCM, then 5.1 analog RCA is "better" than bitstream SPDIF.

1) Multichannel LPCM source are downmixed to stereo if you use fiber optics.
2) Uncompressed multichannel LPCM source on the BD outputted directly as 5.1 analog audio is far superior to regular DD and DTS bitstreams via fiber optics.
3) Some have just high $peed amp, not premap/prepro reciever, so analog RCA connection is a direct pure connection type.

5.1 analog = PCM
fiber optics = bitstream

On the other hand, low LFE channel output has been reported with the 1400 when using the 5.1 analog audio output option. Although correctable by a capable receiver. Also one downside to analog audio, since your receiver is only seeing PCM, your reciever can not apply DSP such as "night time listening" mode that you can do with the Dolby family bitstreams. Other than that, when you upgrade the receiver to a HDMI receiver with the ability to decode HD codes (DTS-HD MA), then you can set the 1400 to bitstream and now you're talking about via HDMI, not SPDIF no more. At this point, this is the upper epchi.. epocc...eshh. ohhh at the top of the audio ectasy. Yes, 100% bitstream via HDMI all the way down the Mississippi (those elementary shool cognitive shortcuts still works!).

Well, I find that the 1400's upconverting ability isn't that shabby. I actually think it's pretty darn good but it is in no way in the same league as my Oppo 981. The Toshiba A2 on the other hand...well...let's just say I won't even sit a SD disc by that thing - its just sub-par! But, in the major plus column, it plays the hell out of HD DVD's (everytime) which is all I want it to do.

Oh man this is perfect thanks.

I have another question though, I've going back and forth with a friend of mine and was wondering which is correct. We both have the 1400 and he is saying he can get 1080p via component, and I told him you can only get 1080p via HDMI. Is he correct or am I?

Did you have to say that? Ya, obviously... I mean I would have done that 180 degree head turn from the Exorsist if you have said, ".. played my BD flawlessly!"

Just givin' ya a hard time, man. To each his own. cheers, fellow Purplerian.

Yep, you are correct. The highest resolution you can get with component video is 1080i or was it 720p? FTC and the DTV movement by law can not pass a 1080p signal other than via HDMI. So says the 1400 also.

Now your friend may be right, on a non-technical level. The PQ between HDMI and component is very hard to tell the difference between.

720p, 1080i, 1080p, very little difference in PQ IMHO.

Thanks for your help Barney

Not a problem.


Man I feel like I pushing this Samsung junk too much. I wonder if I can get some form of payment for supporting their junk?

although I would have called it even if Sammy would have given me those 3 bonus BDs. but I don't think he cares... if he's listening ...

Being that you know so much about Sammy, have you heard anything about the line rolling, when i watch weeds on BD in some scenes i get this line roll kind of like a quick stutter when it switches scenes, its happened on other films too, is there a reason for this. Should I get rid of the Sammy or is it my other equipment?

Weeds? No thanks. I just say 'NO' to drugs.

For the record, don't know much about history. don't much about philosophy. don't know what a slide ruler is used for. Just like to play Operation with the 1400 insides, that's all.

dunno, I don't have that BD series. Can't really be the 24 fps thingy cause this is a TV series? Sounds like scanning or interlacing problem. Play around with the different resolution settings on the 1400. Also try composite and component video, as well as HDMI. This will localize the trouble maker; 1400, receiver, TV, or just a bogus non-certified HDMI cable???

maybe a ground loop problem also. an isolator or a line conditioner can help. common issue is with older houses, I'm not saying yours is old, degraded wires sometimes can be an issue. Symtom "seems' to signal interference related or connectivety.

When in doubt, and you have some mulas stocked as surplus, hire a HT specialist. Probably a big price to pay now for just the 1400, but thinking ahead, the 1400 is not going to be the last AV equipment you buy?

Question for anyone in the know... I just hooked my new 1400 up to my B&K Ref50 S2 this afternoon via 5.1 outputs and was wondering how the player handles the speaker levels since there is no control for this. My pre has no trim control either. Should one assume that the 1400 sets the levels for the analog outs to 0db?

Thanks in advance,

Chris

Yes it is a TV series on Showtime, well I'm wondering if it is a TV issue, but my HD DVD player doesn't give me any of these issues. I am running it through component, I haven't tried HDMI yet and the apartment is old but those conditioners are EXPENSIVE! Unless you know of a good priced one.

First question is, did you purchase it at Best Buy ?, if so you're out of luck as they consider them an "ineligible retailer". But don't ask for a list of eligible retailers because they won't provide it. Oh, that reminds me of the Animal House line "double secret probation". Double secret dealer list.

OK, I live between the Commack and Farmingdale locations and somehow missed that in the Commack store. BJ's did/does have inventory however, the last time I checked.

This Video, on YouTube (Warning! Profanity in the captions) shows what happened in the HD-DVD bunker a few weeks ago. Enjoy!

Very creative!

But, what, exactly, did Blu Ray win?????

Oh no they didn'! Had me rolling for the entire time. touché, thanks man, I can appreciated that. No matter what camp your in... Man where does all these people come up with these sheite!??? whoooahhh... I'm almost in tears....