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post #4741 of 5079
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Originally Posted by adrman View Post

I have my Polk Rti8's set up in this fashion with my SR7001 and they sound great to me. I've always had them like this, so I can't provide a comparison for you. The only thing to be wary of is if the manual for the 7002/8002 is like the one for the 7001/8001, the diagram on how to do this is incorrect. The diagram found on page 20 of the 7001/8001 manual implies that one connects the "surround back" outputs for the bi-amp when in fact you must use the multi speaker/speaker c outputs.



The 8002 manual is confusing and it sounds as if the instructions might be the same. It mentions using MULTISPEAKER/SPEAKER C and then mentions using SURROUND BACK in the notes section. I thought maybe there would be something in the menu to have the back surrounds not work as surrounds. Or that it was a typo.

I typed out the instructions...

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Bi-amp Connection
A bi-amp connection is possible with speakers that have two sets of inputs (for treble and bass). This allows you to drive the treble and bass units with separate channel amps, which enables better sound quality. Connect the speakers as shown in the figure*. Set the SPEAKER C selector switch on the rear panel to ON.

Note:
-You can use surround back speaker terminals as MULTI SPK. terminals or SPEAKER C terminal when you are not using surround back speakers.


* = The figure shows FRONT A and MULTISPEAKER/SPEAKER C connected to right and left speakers.

But the "Note" brings up the surround backs and makes it sound like you can use those, also.

I have to ask, what is with FRONT B speakers? Why don't they list that you can use those for biamping? I'm assuming they are the same output as the FRONT A outs... ???
post #4742 of 5079
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Originally Posted by Brian81 View Post

* = The figure shows FRONT A and MULTISPEAKER/SPEAKER C connected to right and left speakers.

Well, it sounds like they got the diagram right.

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But the "Note" brings up the surround backs and makes it sound like you can use those, also.

I can definitely say that on the 7001 you cannot because based on the diagram I previously mentioned, that's how I initially connected my RTi8s. The tweeters were not active.

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I have to ask, what is with FRONT B speakers? Why don't they list that you can use those for biamping? I'm assuming they are the same output as the FRONT A outs... ???

Well I just had a look at the online 7001 manual to see if I could answer that question and I have to say I can't. The funny thing was the pdf online had a different p.20 diagram than my print version. The online pdf's diagram is correct.
post #4743 of 5079
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Originally Posted by llep64 View Post

One more thing. I have one more thing is it ok to use the receiver with the peak light on?

It is normal. I don't really know why its needing to have that red warning light (peak) on. Either which way, meaning either you turn the att on button on the receiver, or you go to your dvd set up and turn the analog attenuate to on, you will notice that the level will be decreased. I don't know if the sound quality suffers, i think it just decreases the level.

I asked the question before if it bad to have that PEAK LIGHT COMING ON, and some said it is, some said no worries.
post #4744 of 5079
Hummm, I couldn't find an option on the XA 2 player, well. Also do I need to do anything on the receiver menu when using it on 2 channel analog? Or just plug the RCA cables and go and do you guys go to AUX2 or 7.1 analog? When running the 2 channel analog? Thanks for your patient guys!.
post #4745 of 5079
Why does the L/R on the 7.1 analog and AUX2 sound different?, I have my xa2 player 2 channel analog hooked up to it and they sound so different I would say that AUX2 sounds more clear and dynamic. Aren't both analog ???? Shouldn't they sound the same? Or am I missing some???thanks.
post #4746 of 5079
anybody?.....please...
post #4747 of 5079
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Originally Posted by llep64 View Post

anybody?.....please...

Don't use the function myself, but the manual states the 7.1 inputs bypass the surround circuitry and presumably a whole bunch of other possible processes (such as night mode, etc.).
Is it possible you have some processing, eq, etc enabled for you AUX2 use of the inputs?
post #4748 of 5079
I contacted Marantz re/ the peak light issue, and they assured me not to worry.
post #4749 of 5079
Hi - I am a newbie ...purchased an SR7002 on Amazon...it came with the RC3001 remote; the manual however refers to the RC8001.

Spent quite some time going through the user manuals to figure out how to get the RC3001 to use it as an universal remote to control other non-marantz a/v devices (1. scientific atlanta DVR 8300HD, Panasonic TH-PZ77U). For example, not even able to get it to power on these devices...

Tried to use the wizz.it - followed the steps that appeared logical - was unsuccessful! Any tips/help would be much appreciated.

sr7002
post #4750 of 5079
I connected My cable box and DVD player to my receiver (Marantz SR8002) With HDMI cables, and a nother HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV, (TV only has one DVI input so I used a hdmi/DVI connector).
Now the problem is, that I only have sound when the TV is ON even if I'm just playing a CD, is this normal? Does the TV have to be on all the time?
With the TV OFF theres no sound from the cable box or the DVD Player???

Please help,

Paulo
post #4751 of 5079
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Originally Posted by Stereodaddy View Post

I connected My cable box and DVD player to my receiver (Marantz SR8002) With HDMI cables, and a nother HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV, (TV only has one DVI input so I used a hdmi/DVI connector).
Now the problem is, that I only have sound when the TV is ON even if I'm just playing a CD, is this normal? Does the TV have to be on all the time?
With the TV OFF theres no sound from the cable box or the DVD Player???

Please help,

Paulo

That's definitely not right as I use my DVD for CD/SACD playback without turning the TV on. Is your Cable box connected to HDMI input 1, DVD connected to HDMI input 2? If so, you might try connecting the DVD into input 3 (VCR), just to see if that might make a difference.

If this does not work, it could it be an internal menu setting within the TV or DVD player?
post #4752 of 5079
This might be good news for prospective owners, but A**zon lowered their prices for the 8002 & 7002 to 799.00 & 599.00 respectively. If I didn't already own one of each, I'd consider another one. A recent buyer also noted the unit he received does have the H39 firmware loaded, so that is a plus over my SR7002, that I've never sent in.
post #4753 of 5079
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Originally Posted by Stereodaddy View Post

I connected My cable box and DVD player to my receiver (Marantz SR8002) With HDMI cables, and a nother HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV, (TV only has one DVI input so I used a hdmi/DVI connector).
Now the problem is, that I only have sound when the TV is ON even if I'm just playing a CD, is this normal? Does the TV have to be on all the time?
With the TV OFF theres no sound from the cable box or the DVD Player???

Please help,

Paulo


You probably have to turn off CEC. Check your TV and Marantz menu for HDMI CEC and turn it off.
post #4754 of 5079
my 8002 was just returned to me from united radio. they fixed my problem & did all the latest firmware updates. I was dissapointed to see that they still dont have the bass ( subwoofer ) problems ironed out. I ran the mic tests & as before, the subwoofer test results were way off. going on three years. not impressed.

btw.. I was happy with united radio"s customer service.this is the company that marantz had me send my unit to. they acted is if they really cared about getting me fixed up. the tech guy called me and went over everything with me.they were very prompt. total time was about two weeks.

the marantz customer service was a joke. they were totally annoyed that I called them with a problem. I was totally polite with them & they were quite rude to be honest. all of that and the tech guy was clueless.

back to the subwoofer problem. is this still a audyssey problem? and can the subwoofer readings be changed without running a new mic test. I believe I added 9db to the subwoofer the first time. thanks
post #4755 of 5079
I think I figure it out, the problem is the TV and it's DVI input,
when I disconnect the HDMI cable from the TV, the sound works even with the TV off. What I did was to run another pair of optical cables from the sources (DVD and Cable box) to the AVR, this way when the TV is off the audio automatically switches to the optical cables.

Paulo
post #4756 of 5079
sr8002 on amazon today for $800 new. One day deal. I wonder how this unit compares to some of the newer Onkyo units like my NR1007?
http://www.spoofee.com/index.php?sec...eal&did=693511
post #4757 of 5079
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Originally Posted by mahdlokg View Post

This might be good news for prospective owners, but A**zon lowered their prices for the 8002 & 7002 to 799.00 & 599.00 respectively. If I didn't already own one of each, I'd consider another one. A recent buyer also noted the unit he received does have the H39 firmware loaded, so that is a plus over my SR7002, that I've never sent in.

Thanks for the heads-up! My 7002 will be delivered tomorrow.

Gotta love Amazon Prime
post #4758 of 5079
I wonder the same.. I know that the Onkyo is much more advanced, networkable, 9.2, etc but Ive read that the 8002 sound great..anyone have these and their experience?
post #4759 of 5079
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Originally Posted by hipertec View Post

I wonder the same.. I know that the Onkyo is much more advanced, networkable, 9.2, etc but Ive read that the 8002 sound great..anyone have these and their experience?

No doubt, it's apples and oranges. Marantz SQ is the number one reason that most people buy them over other brands. On the other hand, even I would consider the 9.2, networkability, etc, that Onkyo is bringing to the arena. But I may wait for the NEXT generation Marantz (or Rotel), when they catch up with the 9.2 capabilities. That ought to give me 1-2 years to continue enjoying my '002 receivers!
post #4760 of 5079
Hi -

You can download the user manual for RC3001 from Marantz site:
http://us.marantz.com/Products/2246.asp

Hope this helps. By the way, are you sure it is RC3001? I'm asking because I've seen quite a few criticisms on the original remote on the SR8002 / SR7002 reviews. And RC3001 itself is retailing around $350. Its a greate value. The current prices in amazon for SR8002 / SR7002 are quite tempting me to upgrade from my current set-up (Arcam AVR350).

~ Mahesh


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Originally Posted by sr7002 View Post

Hi - I am a newbie ...purchased an SR7002 on Amazon...it came with the RC3001 remote; the manual however refers to the RC8001.

Spent quite some time going through the user manuals to figure out how to get the RC3001 to use it as an universal remote to control other non-marantz a/v devices (1. scientific atlanta DVR 8300HD, Panasonic TH-PZ77U). For example, not even able to get it to power on these devices...

Tried to use the wizz.it - followed the steps that appeared logical - was unsuccessful! Any tips/help would be much appreciated.

sr7002
post #4761 of 5079
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Originally Posted by slow ride View Post

my 8002 was just returned to me from united radio. they fixed my problem & did all the latest firmware updates. I was dissapointed to see that they still dont have the bass ( subwoofer ) problems ironed out. I ran the mic tests & as before, the subwoofer test results were way off. going on three years. not impressed.

btw.. I was happy with united radio"s customer service.this is the company that marantz had me send my unit to. they acted is if they really cared about getting me fixed up. the tech guy called me and went over everything with me.they were very prompt. total time was about two weeks.

the marantz customer service was a joke. they were totally annoyed that I called them with a problem. I was totally polite with them & they were quite rude to be honest. all of that and the tech guy was clueless.

back to the subwoofer problem. is this still a audyssey problem? and can the subwoofer readings be changed without running a new mic test. I believe I added 9db to the subwoofer the first time. thanks


When you say it's way off, what do you mean? The distance? lack of oomph?
post #4762 of 5079
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Originally Posted by hansangb View Post

When you say it's way off, what do you mean? The distance? lack of oomph?

both.

I guess Im going to have to go back in & add the 9db like I did when I first set it up. I thought the latest firmwares would have corrected this. I have some old notes that will help me out. I know I have to set the speakers to " small " plus a few other things. I cant remember if I have to do a whole new mic test to add the 9db .
post #4763 of 5079
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Originally Posted by mahdlokg View Post

I understand what you are saying about displaying the TrueHD DTS-Master. It's nice to know that it is engaged. The Marantz displays this in the fluorescent display. Push #7 on the remote and it will cycle through several readings and you will see Dolby TrueHD and DTS-Master displayed. Also, the small red logo lights (DTS 7 Dolby Digital) stay lit as well. As far as issues after the latest firmware updates (both H38 & H39), I believe most agree here that there have been no more real issues reported.

When this is displayed, when you power off, will it come back and show what was last chosen or do you have to cycle every time to see DD-True HD, etc.?

Thanks...
post #4764 of 5079
In my audio rack, if I got the 7002, I would only have about an inch at the top but open space on both sides and the back. Would this cause any problems? I have run Onkyo 602, Pioneer 1015, and a Denon 987 there for the last five years and have had zero problems? Do you owners think this would be no problem for the 7002 as well? Thanks for your time.
post #4765 of 5079
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Originally Posted by BAMAVADER View Post

When this is displayed, when you power off, will it come back and show what was last chosen or do you have to cycle every time to see DD-True HD, etc.?

Thanks...

I just tried this with Sherlock Holmes and it came back on to DTS-HD MSTR, which is how it is displayed. So, yes it will.
post #4766 of 5079
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Originally Posted by BAMAVADER View Post

In my audio rack, if I got the 7002, I would only have about an inch at the top but open space on both sides and the back. Would this cause any problems? I have run Onkyo 602, Pioneer 1015, and a Denon 987 there for the last five years and have had zero problems? Do you owners think this would be no problem for the 7002 as well? Thanks for your time.

Mine is open, so I can't say for sure. Most of the heat (like all receivers) comes through the top. I would guess you would probably be alright, if it has worked with your other receivers. If you aren't comfortable with the heat it produces, you can always go with the small fan solution. When the Onkyos came out 3-4 yrs ago (805, etc), there was an entire discussion of the fan possibilities. Quite a few were said to run silently, and you could just plug it into the switched outlet on the back of your receiver.
post #4767 of 5079
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Originally Posted by mahdlokg View Post

Mine is open, so I can't say for sure. Most of the heat (like all receivers) comes through the top. I would guess you would probably be alright, if it has worked with your other receivers. If you aren't comfortable with the heat it produces, you can always go with the small fan solution. When the Onkyos came out 3-4 yrs ago (805, etc), there was an entire discussion of the fan possibilities. Quite a few were said to run silently, and you could just plug it into the switched outlet on the back of your receiver.

thanks man for your time...I am really close to buying the 7002. You answered one of my concerns about what is displayed on powering back up. Someone mentioned that the SR7002 is being shipped with the latest firmware and that was another concern, so that leaves the heat question. I just don't want to wear this out by it being too hot. Again, the fan idea is a good one. My rack is completely open on the sides and back. The top is the only question and I have never experienced any problems before. My current Denon is only a half of an inch different in height from the SR7002. I just don't see how that could make that big of a difference. I really appreciate your taking the time to help me. Sincerely!
post #4768 of 5079
I just got the SR7002 a few weeks ago. So far I like everything, but I am still trying to get the settings perfect. I started with the Audyssey auto-setup and went from there.

First question - I'm pretty new at this and have never setup an AV receiver before. I have SPL meter and would like to know how to setup the 7002 manually. Any suggestions on where to start?

Second question - I find that the volume varies significantly dependent upon the source type (stereo, Dolby Digital, etc.). I feel this mostly when watching Dish. The source audio flips between stereo and Dolby Digital. Stereo sounds significantly louder. Anyway to fix this? Makes me which I had Dolby Volume!

Zach
post #4769 of 5079
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Originally Posted by slow ride View Post

both.

I guess Im going to have to go back in & add the 9db like I did when I first set it up. I thought the latest firmwares would have corrected this. I have some old notes that will help me out. I know I have to set the speakers to " small " plus a few other things. I cant remember if I have to do a whole new mic test to add the 9db .


I wouldn't worry about the distance if it seems much longer than the actual location. That is if you have a DSP built into your sub. The additional processing delay causes the distances to be off.

As for the oomph, I'm assuming you already added the 10dB boost via preference menu (0 dB instead of -10dB). The other thing you should seriously think about is doing a sub crawl. Pain in the butt, but usually well worth it to find the sweet spot.
post #4770 of 5079
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Originally Posted by BAMAVADER View Post

thanks man for your time...I am really close to buying the 7002. You answered one of my concerns about what is displayed on powering back up. Someone mentioned that the SR7002 is being shipped with the latest firmware and that was another concern, so that leaves the heat question. I just don't want to wear this out by it being too hot. Again, the fan idea is a good one. My rack is completely open on the sides and back. The top is the only question and I have never experienced any problems before. My current Denon is only a half of an inch different in height from the SR7002. I just don't see how that could make that big of a difference. I really appreciate your taking the time to help me. Sincerely!

No problem at all. Glad to be of help!
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